Pretty compelling audio!

I'm about 3/4 way through it.

Is that Art Bell? I used to love that radio show.




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Pretty compelling audio!

I'm about 3/4 way through it.

Is that Art Bell? I used to love that radio show.




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I was thinking that was him but its hard to tell...BTW he does the show on the week ends now....George Noory does it Mon-Fri. Its on from 1am - 5am Eastern.

The audio is amazing to say the least.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

George Noory sounds just like Art, lol.

I went to the website for coast to coast and they want 7 bucks a month to listen to an am radio show on the net... Guess I'll have to find my old am radio, lol.


Thanks J




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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Here's a longer and higher quality clip of the same footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As-wYmFYb3I

And that shows more clearly how the second part of the video is footage when the camera was completely out of focus for the tether.

Note the clarity of the first part, and then the very blurred view in the second part. Towards the end, you see where the focus is shifted. You also see some dirt particles that are stuck to the camera lens. The other similar looking particles are just drifting around near or in the lens.

Definitely no huge swarm of UFOs there.

Keep searchin',
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Sorry that was rude,

I was on the way back out the door. Let me explain myself:

For the "Ice Crystals" to go behind the tether, the 12 mile long tether would have to be "Inside" the camera.


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Once a UFO has been focused it should remain in focus throughout the video because it would always be at the lens's "infinity". If not it would be too close and too small.

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Not sure what you mean Clyde,

Have we established that some are clearly passing behind the tether?


Here's an 8 minute version of the 2 hour video I've been trying to get people to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpK5a5l8Y58




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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Here's a longer and higher quality clip of the same footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As-wYmFYb3I

And that shows more clearly how the second part of the video is footage when the camera was completely out of focus for the tether.

Note the clarity of the first part, and then the very blurred view in the second part. Towards the end, you see where the focus is shifted. You also see some dirt particles that are stuck to the camera lens. The other similar looking particles are just drifting around near or in the lens.

Definitely no huge swarm of UFOs there.

Keep searchin',
Martin

Apparently you did not hear us ;) the tether is 12.8 miles long when fully extended and in this case, despite the tether breaking, it was extended at full length. Check NASAs site on STS-75. The object behind the 'rod' is nearly 2 to 5 miles in diameter. The shuttle is 70 nautical miles away from the tether when this video was shot. Not to sound smart, but do the math. Factor in the size of the tether, the distance the shuttle is away from the tether and bam. Thats how big the object is.

Dirt particles? Where do you see that? If these are dirt particles then they are massive "particles." SO no matter what way you put it, the video was shot 70 miles away so it looks small but its not.

What of the focus? I have seen this several times and all they are trying to do is zoom in and out...So what math did you use to say these are particles? Just curious.

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"The force is strong with you, young Jedi."

I think he's saying that they are on or near the lense, so compared to the tether they look as big, or near as big as the tether. The trick is, IF these objects are shown going "behind" the tether, there would be no way the NASA explanation would be plausible.

Interesting that NASA stopped broadcasting live video back to earth after all these interesting anomalies. Even funnier is that we pay for these missions.




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I think he's saying that they are on or near the lense, so compared to the tether they look as big, or near as big as the tether.

Indeed so.

The trick is, IF these objects are shown going "behind" the tether, there would be no way the NASA explanation would be plausible.

Indeed so again.

Unfortunately, small particles that are very near to (or inside!) the lens and that are out of focus will appear to be 'transparent'. Their image is 'added' to anything that is imaged. You cannot say anything is in front of or behind anything. The image artifact is just 'added' to the final image. Whatever is brightest will win.

Interesting that NASA stopped broadcasting live video back to earth after all these interesting anomalies. Even funnier is that we pay for these missions.

More likely the autofocus system was confused to uselessness by the dirt particles and very unfavourable lighting. Note how the tether remains unfocused and badly overexposed throught. Not normal NASA photography standards!


Keep searchin',
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I saw numerous objects clearly passing behind the tether. My vision is perfect. Better than perfect, actually. (So doctors have told me.) I'm sure others have seen this too by watching this video.

I doubt NASA would allow a contractor to produce a camera for space flight that contained particles "inside" the lense. But even then, it could never explain the objects passing behind the tether. Nor do I believe the auto-focus theory.

The tether is glowing because it is super charged, which caused it to break in the first place, theoretically. This glow actually helps visual observation.

Another observation I made was the way the astronauts and ground crew stumbled on their words. Long pauses and intentional adjustments to the camera to "obscure" the objects was clearly made. This camera work and commentary style can also be observed in the MIR footage. Hilarious! Ground team was actually happy when the astronauts zoomed away from the tether. An inaudible sigh of relief could be felt in the controllers voice. It's like "America's Funniest Space Videos!"

There are several other instances for you to look over in the new 8 minute video since you won't watch the 2 hour version. I wonder what your findings will be. Hope you watch it and comment.


Seeing clearly,
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

I think he's saying that they are on or near the lense, so compared to the tether they look as big, or near as big as the tether.

Indeed so.

The trick is, IF these objects are shown going "behind" the tether, there would be no way the NASA explanation would be plausible.

Indeed so again.

Unfortunately, small particles that are very near to (or inside!) the lens and that are out of focus will appear to be 'transparent'. Their image is 'added' to anything that is imaged. You cannot say anything is in front of or behind anything. The image artifact is just 'added' to the final image. Whatever is brightest will win.

Interesting that NASA stopped broadcasting live video back to earth after all these interesting anomalies. Even funnier is that we pay for these missions.

More likely the autofocus system was confused to uselessness by the dirt particles and very unfavourable lighting. Note how the tether remains unfocused and badly overexposed throught. Not normal NASA photography standards!


Keep searchin',
Martin

Martin, RE: These are not particles...as in the image in question, you can clearly see that the object is behind the tether. The reason why the tether looks so small, is:

1) It is fully extended (despite it "breaking") at 12.8 miles long.

2) The shuttle is approximately, 70 nautical miles away from the tether (The satellite that is on the tether is at the top of the rod).

3) take those numbers into consideration, and the tether looks small because something that big and being that far away, you are going to have a heck of a time trying to squeeze this thing in...so when you do it looks small.

4) Note the object behind the tether, which unfocused or not, is clearly in front of the object (or the object behind it) There really is no debating that and the focus factor really isn't playing too well as...

5) Do the multiplication and division, and fractions, and you get roughly 2 to 5 miles in diameter. Particles are not that big. In fact "particles" are something that are well very very very tiny...and in most cases microscopic.

6) Why is the Tether glowing? Infra Red...all of it is being used to view as Infra Red...even the camera is Infra Red. In fact, go buy night vision or what not at a camera store, and you can probably catch a few of these things yourself in broad day light. Kid you not. (Note: Snipers in the US military use night vision and infra red when aiming whether its day or night).

6) It seems, at least in my opinion, that you have not watched the video or any of the clips to see more than just the image. This is only one of several in the video.

RE: MrGray Could you do some more screen shots of those things like you did for that previous image? I would like a copy to upload to a site that will allow the upload of NASA material as it is Public Domain. E-mail me, and you already know how to do that ;)

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I saw numerous objects clearly passing behind the tether. My vision is perfect. Better than perfect, actually. (So doctors have told me.) I'm sure others have seen this too by watching this video.

I doubt NASA would allow a contractor to produce a camera for space flight that contained particles "inside" the lense. But even then, it could never explain the objects passing behind the tether. Nor do I believe the auto-focus theory.

The tether is glowing because it is super charged, which caused it to break in the first place, theoretically. This glow actually helps visual observation.

Another observation I made was the way the astronauts and ground crew stumbled on their words. Long pauses and intentional adjustments to the camera to "obscure" the objects was clearly made. This camera work and commentary style can also be observed in the MIR footage. Hilarious! Ground team was actually happy when the astronauts zoomed away from the tether. An inaudible sigh of relief could be felt in the controllers voice. It's like "America's Funniest Space Videos!"

There are several other instances for you to look over in the new 8 minute video since you won't watch the 2 hour version. I wonder what your findings will be. Hope you watch it and comment.


Seeing clearly,
~Mr Gray




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If you turn the volume up as far as it can go and hold it close to yourt ears, you can hear the other officials in the background. I can barely make it out but it sounds like they are saying what the hell are those or something like that...

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I searched the web for more photos but came up dry. Good thing I have a capture card and can pause videos. I'll get on it right away. I'll download the entire sequence from the clearest source possible and will not alter them in any way. When I'm done I'll post them here in a time lapse pattern for everyone. I'll also email them to you.

I'll put them on my site, too. Click the image in my signature to visit my site.

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*See my post in this thread with the link to the two hour video.

If you turn the volume up as far as it can go and hold it close to your ears, you can hear the other officials in the background. I can barely make it out but it sounds like they are saying what the hell are those or something like that...

LOL - I don't doubt it!




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WOW!!!

Part one got pulled from the net!!! Wonder why? lol

Part two is still there, for now.

I'll order the DVD.




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Here's one I just made:



I like the nice shadow from the tether in frame 3 and 4. lol


Eating and watching tv for a while but more tomorrow.

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Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers....Why's it ALWAYS flying Saucers? Why not a flying Teacup??

Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers....Why's it ALWAYS flying Saucers? Why not a flying Teacup??

I don't know who thought of "flying saucers". I guess that sounds better. Buchanan and Goodman made them sound more realistic in their song "The Flying Saucer" popular in August and September 1956. Also there was a movie "Earth Vs the Flying Saucers" I saw in September 1956. What did Orson Welles do in 1938? Maybe Googling would reveal the answer. On the lenses - that's right - Zoom lenses (I have no experience with them) probably don't hold exact focus while zooming and so have to be refocused. Also if the lens were at a wideangle setting and the saucer looked sharp, the image would probably soften up as the lens zoomed in. Certainly as zoom lenses zoom in and out one of the lens surfaces would probably get into focus during the zooming and would be magnified. Any dust on that surface might resemble a dot in the sky. Also people generating hoaxes could put a tiny round spot on that lens surface that would be invisible if defocused, but look like a saucer when focused. Maybe that spot would be several tenths of a millimeter in diameter.

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