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Message 547655 - Posted: 17 Apr 2007, 7:57:03 UTC
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umqIYiGvgh0

STRONG LANGUAGE!
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Message 548039 - Posted: 17 Apr 2007, 23:51:01 UTC
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And another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF04uMEPKbQ





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Message 548232 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 3:51:19 UTC
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The best IMHO:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-6702703329651765781&hl=en




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Message 548315 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 6:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 548232.
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The best IMHO:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-6702703329651765781&hl=en




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This was in the Video UFO's: The greatest stroy ever denied. These UFO's are allegedly over 3 miles in diameter.
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Message 548321 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 6:56:05 UTC
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I have over 500 videos and documents on my site and it's only been up for 7 weeks! You should check it out! :)

Everyone should. Bring your popcorn and high speed internet because I have hours and hours of media to go through.

http://www.ufodbase.com




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Message 548502 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 13:43:17 UTC - in response to Message 548315.

The best IMHO:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-6702703329651765781&hl=en

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This was in the Video UFO's: The greatest stroy ever denied. These UFO's are allegedly over 3 miles in diameter.

What?!

That's the best?!

What exactly is it supposed to be showing?

And how/when was it filmed?

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Message 548574 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 16:38:00 UTC

Hi ML1,

Video is from NASA STS-75

Mission: TSS-1R; USMP-3
Space Shuttle: Columbia
Launch Pad: 39B
Launched: February 22, 1996, 3:18:00 p.m. EST
Landing Site: Kennedy Space Center, Florida
Landing: March 9, 1996, 8:58:21 a.m. EST
Runway: 33
Rollout Distance: 8,459 feet
Rollout Time: 64 seconds
Revolution: 252
Mission Duration: 15 days, 17 hours, 41 minutes, 25 seconds
Orbit Altitude: 160 nautical miles
Orbit Inclination: 28.45 degrees
Miles Traveled: 6.5 million


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Message 548663 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 18:59:07 UTC - in response to Message 548574.
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Hi ML1,

Video is from NASA STS-75

Well, that doesn't need much debunking or explanation:

"NASA officials claim that the objects in the tether video footage are ice particles close to the camera passing in front of the distant "overexposed" tether."

And sure enough, you can see multiple reflections of some of the blurred (out of focus) particles from reflections within the camera lens system. This is nicely visible as you see the camera zoom in and out and you see the shifting 'depth of field' effect on the image of the very blurred particles.

Looks like just a dirty lens or (small) particles inside or very close in front of the lens system.

Note that the way in which those particles are so very very blurred, and blurred in a very different way to which the broken tether is overexposed, should give you a very very good clue that the objects are very small objects very close to the camera.


Nothing ET about any of that!


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Message 548679 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 19:19:47 UTC

The interesting part is that most of the objects are clearly passing behind the tether, which is 20.7-kilometres long, (12.8623 miles long), putting the objects at 2 - 5 miles in diameter.

Have another look.

If that video isn't clear enough to view try this 2 hour video:

http://www.exoticworldart.com/ufodbase/index.php?topic=432.0



I have 35 NASA UFOs that you can review:

http://www.exoticworldart.com/ufodbase/index.php?board=17.0


Here are 67 Civilian and Military Videos:

http://www.exoticworldart.com/ufodbase/index.php?board=18.0


Here are MANY Military and Government testimonies from eye witnesses spanning many years:

http://www.exoticworldart.com/ufodbase/index.php?board=10.0


I have compiled all of this in just 7 weeks, and much more on my site for all to view. I remain convinced but know each individual must learn for themselves. I'm just here to help the quest for truth, no matter what that truth may be.

All sections of the site are accessible to the public. Registration is free and only needed to post messages and use the live chat program. There are no advertisements or pop-ups and never will be.

Good luck in your research!




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Message 548685 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 19:31:49 UTC

I support the dirty lens hypothesis on one. It gets out-of-focus too fast and too much. On another it looks like a hovercraft or a timelapse of a blimp.
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Message 548695 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 19:44:28 UTC
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Hi Clyde C. Phillips, III,

I may have been posting at the same time you were but please see my response just prior to your message.

Do your homework because I am prepared to debate!

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Message 548762 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 22:59:38 UTC - in response to Message 548679.

The interesting part is that most of the objects are clearly passing behind the tether, which is 20.7-kilometres long, (12.8623 miles long), putting the objects at 2 - 5 miles in diameter.

Well, when I look at that, all I can see is that the circular blurred blobs are merely superimposed on the images, along with a lot of other light glare and reflections internal to the camera lens and possibly whatever viewing window.

The blobs themselves have no frame of reference to let you see whether they are 'behind' or 'in front of' anything else in the image. They appear 'superimposed'.

The very clear fact that they do not focus in the same way that the tether can be seen to be focused strongly suggests that they are nowhere near the tether. The fact that they are not in focus and change their blurred shape whilst the camera is zooming very stongly suggests small bright particles very close to the camera lens or even dust inside the camera lens.

You can see very similar effects by looking through a dirty optical microscope!


Nothing ET there.

Keep searchin',
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Message 548767 - Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 23:08:45 UTC
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Woops,

You haven't done your homework!











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Message 548798 - Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 1:00:58 UTC - in response to Message 548767.

Woops,

You haven't done your homework!




Au contrare...

You ain't looking. Too dreamy to see?

Save the image and enlarge it so that you can see the pixels. You'll see compression artifacts and you should also see that your blurred circular feature is much less bright than the tether. Due to the blurred feature being out of focus, it appears 'transparent'.

Sorry, you can't claim anything is in front of or behind anything else in that image.

Along with the rest of the video, you're still only dreaming about blurred out of focus small particles near and/or in the camera lens.


Also note that if those aliens were indeed visible in the way you suggest, why did the astronauts or any other cameras onboard the shuttle not notice them!!!

Sorry, far too far out of this world for those very blurred images to be anything more than just lens dirt.

Keep searchin',
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Message 548820 - Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 2:10:14 UTC
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Still won't watch the footage eh?

A mind is like a parachute, ML1. It only works if it's open.



I know, swamp gas magnified Venus, etc...

Why do you crunch for SETI?

Keep searchin',
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You too, ML1.


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Message 548864 - Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 3:59:13 UTC
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Here's a longer and higher quality clip of the same footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As-wYmFYb3I

Replaced old vid on my site with this one also.

This one also gives a nice description of what the project was about.





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Message 548892 - Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 5:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 548762.

The interesting part is that most of the objects are clearly passing behind the tether, which is 20.7-kilometres long, (12.8623 miles long), putting the objects at 2 - 5 miles in diameter.

Well, when I look at that, all I can see is that the circular blurred blobs are merely superimposed on the images, along with a lot of other light glare and reflections internal to the camera lens and possibly whatever viewing window.

The blobs themselves have no frame of reference to let you see whether they are 'behind' or 'in front of' anything else in the image. They appear 'superimposed'.

The very clear fact that they do not focus in the same way that the tether can be seen to be focused strongly suggests that they are nowhere near the tether. The fact that they are not in focus and change their blurred shape whilst the camera is zooming very stongly suggests small bright particles very close to the camera lens or even dust inside the camera lens.

You can see very similar effects by looking through a dirty optical microscope!


Nothing ET there.

Keep searchin',
Martin


Have you seen the: World Trade Center UFO If you look closely at the slow motion you will see that this UFO is exactly the same shape as those massive ufos in the video.
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Message 548898 - Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 5:58:31 UTC
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Not a video but its an audio of the "Alien Beach UFOS" in Grand Haven/Holland Michigan in 1994. This is the audio of a 911 call made the night the sightings were made. This was an even witnessed by thousands...hunting down more.

The Transcript is here.

Apparently a "buzz or fuzz" is heard at the same time the call is made to the 911 dispatcher...a very eerie sound and the operator says its "just tech noise." I beg to differ but then he starts to actually believe the caller as "weird stuff happens."

They then call the Air Force base near by which says they have nothing in the air but also confirm that they don't know whats going on but do mentions "the radio towers are ...(garbled)" but by this time they are rolling 5-0 like crazy and is now calling the NOAA or the National Weather Service....just listen...

This is raw footage and unedited and uncut.
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Message 548903 - Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 6:11:17 UTC

Thanks Jason,

Listening now.




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Message 548905 - Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 6:16:29 UTC - in response to Message 548903.

Thanks Jason,

Listening now.




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