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Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
Sorry this has nothing to do with "Number Crunching" but this has me really angry. For about one year or more every time I reboot or shut down and restart my computer the "Windows and buttons" settings reverts to the Windows XP setting rather than the Classic Windows setting that I prefere. Happens all the time! Anyone know how to fix this so it stay's in the Classis setting?? Thanks Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
...For about one year or more every time I reboot or shut down and restart my computer the "Windows and buttons" settings reverts to the Windows XP setting rather than the Classic Windows setting that I prefere. Happens all the time! Anyone know how to fix this so it stay's in the Classis setting?? ??? Windows updates problem? Sticky registry setting?? Good luck, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 |
Sorry this has nothing to do with "Number Crunching" but this has me really angry. For about one year or more every time I reboot or shut down and restart my computer the "Windows and buttons" settings reverts to the Windows XP setting rather than the Classic Windows setting that I prefere. Happens all the time! Anyone know how to fix this so it stay's in the Classis setting?? Are you pressing "apply" and then "ok" before you exit the change area? Sometimes if you do both it won't save the settings. |
littlegreenmanfrommars Send message Joined: 28 Jan 06 Posts: 1410 Credit: 934,158 RAC: 0 |
I concur with Mikey...with ANY MS app or OS, the settings will revert as soon as you re-open the app or reboot the OS. ALWAYS use Apply before hitting OK :) |
Bob Guy Send message Joined: 7 Sep 00 Posts: 126 Credit: 213,429 RAC: 0 |
Have you tried saving a new theme after making your changes? In the Display Properties window you'll change to the Windows Classic style in the Appearance tab, when you're done there go to the Themes tab and Save As a newly named theme. This theme should now be the default at Windows boot-up. |
Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
Are you pressing "apply" and then "ok" before you exit the change area? Sometimes if you do both it won't save the settings. I have done this time and time again. It just seems not to remember the setting no matter what I do. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I made that change when I got this machine, 4 or 5 years ago, and the setting has remained in place through thick and thin - service pack installs, security updates, security/antivirus program upgrades, joining BOINC...... So I guess something in your startup process is actively unsetting it. Do you have any sort of security suite/registry cleaner which checks for supposed "errors" at startup? Or has the machine ever been part of an active directory domain, and have bits of a group policy in force? |
Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
I made that change when I got this machine, 4 or 5 years ago, and the setting has remained in place through thick and thin - service pack installs, security updates, security/antivirus program upgrades, joining BOINC...... Actually I formated the hard disk and installed Windows XP in an attempt to rectify this problem. With only XP installed the problem is there. Even after a clean install of XP. I don't understand this at all. As soon as XP is installed, I changed from the XP theme to classic. Rebooted and the problem continues. "Windows and buttons" does not remember that I set it to classic and not XP. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
Pooh Bear 27 Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0 |
If you desktop or folders on your desktop do not retain their settings: Start Regedit Go go HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Microsoft\\Windows NT\\CurrentVersion\\Program Manager\\Restrictions Create or edit the DWORD value NoSaveSettings Give it a value of 0 |
Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
If you desktop or folders on your desktop do not retain their settings: NoSaveSettings already there and set to 0 value. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
Well I found this............. As a work around this MS knowledge base article states that if the "Themes" service is not running Windows will revert to the Classic display. I dissabled the Themes service and seems to have solved my problem. I hope! Thanks for all your suggestions!! Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Well I found this............. Now that is a good piece of obscurity! Well found!! Cheers, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 |
The part which has me scratching my head, is why would you need to have desktop theme management routed through a Windows service? Seems like overkill to me. Alinator |
WA4SCA Send message Joined: 7 Oct 01 Posts: 4 Credit: 897,275 RAC: 0 |
Deleted by poster. Operator error. |
WA4SCA Send message Joined: 7 Oct 01 Posts: 4 Credit: 897,275 RAC: 0 |
I just wanted to thank you for posting this fix! Recently, my system began resetting from Classic to XP after a boot, despite all the policy edits, registry edits, etc, etc. Turning off the service fixed it. Of course, that begs the question, at least in my case, of what changed, and how? In the past, I have had things happen which were some form of the system not properly saving personal preferences. In every case, within a few days one of my anti-spyware programs would pick up something after an update, and the problem would go away. So far nothing, but I will keep an eye out for something popping up. Again, thanks. Alan |
Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
I just wanted to thank you for posting this fix! Recently, my system began resetting from Classic to XP after a boot, despite all the policy edits, registry edits, etc, etc. Turning off the service fixed it. By chance do you have an ATI Radeon video card and drivers? I believe my problems started after I installed the ATI video drivers. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
WA4SCA Send message Joined: 7 Oct 01 Posts: 4 Credit: 897,275 RAC: 0 |
No, I have an NVIDIA GEFORCE 7500 LE, which is the board which HP supplies unless you get a premium board. You raise a good point. As best as I can determine, the only changes to the system were some spyware and virus definitions, and an updated driver for the RealTek mobo audio chips. In trying to trouble shoot this, I did a full reformat/restore a couple of times using images from before the problem started. In each case, it worked ok for a few reboots before starting up again. I scrupulously made no changes to the system. Alan |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
No, I have an NVIDIA GEFORCE 7500 LE, which is the board which HP supplies unless you get a premium board. Couple of things I found recently that may or may not be related to your problems. #1 I noticed in Event viewer that a warning that something was accessing the registry while trying to logoff prevented changes being written - This was solved by running the "User Profile Hive Cleanup Service" from Microsoft. It solved that for me. #2 Realtek Mobo Audio Drivers, The latest HD audio drivers from realtek's site worked but ocasionally caused strange problems, Installing the latest from the Mobo Manufacturer's Site instead fixed that for me, they seem to be different (better) though they are still Realtek [earlier version]: symptoms for me were occasional glitchy sound, and the rare "sound stutter freeze", Other more wierd problems like services & programs failing to load at startup [Edit: I think the concept here is that Realtek are a chips maker, not mobo maker, and motherboards can vary slightly from the reference design] No idea if any of that may help but it may be worth checking for #1 in event viewer at least. Jason Hope "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
WA4SCA Send message Joined: 7 Oct 01 Posts: 4 Credit: 897,275 RAC: 0 |
Jason, Unfortunately, that did not solve the problem, but thanks for reminding me about the cleaner! I forgot to reinstall it when I moved to a new computer. The event log looks ok as well. Alan |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Well It might be worth looking for relevant scripts at Kelly's Korner if the machine appears otherwise OK ... there some I have used before to fix start menu issues being stuck on autohide (very annoying), a good trawl through these might turn something up. Goood Luck :D "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
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