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Message 22680 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 17:07:53 UTC

Since the latest release, I have notice an issue with my laptop... after a certain amount of time, the application just stops crunching, and the work unit is not calculated anymore. Of course, if I shut down BOINC, and restart it... then the caculation starts again... until the next hang up. So far, every 12 hours or so, I have to restart, and if I do follow the decrease in calculation for my laptop, maybe I should restart the application every 3 hours or even more frequently.
Does anybody else notice that problem... and if so any solutions?


I am running Windows XP on both my laptop and my desktop, both with service pack 2. Only the laptop so far stop crushing (the laptop has XP Home, the desktop XP Professional, the laptop is an AMD, the desktop is an Intel).
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Message 22714 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 18:03:47 UTC - in response to Message 22680.  

I had the same thing happen on my notebook a few days ago. WinXP Home, SP2, 1.4 Pentium M. I wish I would have taken more time "looking around" before I exited and restarted Boinc Seti. But I was thinking SP2 and suspect that really wasn't the problem.

Are you connected all the time? I happened to be connected that day and I think it was during the "outage" they had (news page, 9/01).

The task manager showed 95% system idle. There was nothing in the stderr log (last message was 8/29). The WU was at 75.10% and I think the CPU time was stalled too, though I'm only sure of the completion percentage.

The problem only occurred once.
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Message 22720 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 18:24:05 UTC - in response to Message 22680.  

> Since the latest release, I have notice an issue with my laptop... after a
> certain amount of time, the application just stops crunching, and the work
> unit is not calculated anymore. Of course, if I shut down BOINC, and restart
> it... then the caculation starts again... until the next hang up. So far,
> every 12 hours or so, I have to restart, and if I do follow the decrease in
> calculation for my laptop, maybe I should restart the application every 3
> hours or even more frequently.
> Does anybody else notice that problem... and if so any solutions?
>
>
> I am running Windows XP on both my laptop and my desktop, both with service
> pack 2. Only the laptop so far stop crushing (the laptop has XP Home, the
> desktop XP Professional, the laptop is an AMD, the desktop is an Intel).
> <img> src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/seti2/stats.php?userID=1025&trans=on">
>

Hello,

J'ai le même problème et ne speak pas english...
Depuis la version 4.05, l'application stop le calcul à chaque appel au serveur.
Je suis obligé de fermer Boinc et de le redemarrer pour relancer le calcul !?!

Si la connexion est permanante, il n'y a pas de problème.

Win XP sp1 - Boinc 4.05


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Message 22732 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:02:38 UTC

My bad translation of what Philibert said:

"Hello

I have the same problem and do not speak english... Since version 4.05, The application stops calculation with each call to the server. I am obliged to close Boinc and re start it to resume calculation!?!

If connection is permanant, it does not have a problem."

I had similar problems yesterday with an XP box with SP2 installed. I don't have a remedy to the problem but would be interested to hear from anybody with a possible cause/solution to the problem.




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Message 22736 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:10:12 UTC

Thanks for your input.

My laptop was connected all the time, I did however for testing purpose now suspended all network activity on it to check if anything similar happens again in 10-12 hours from now.

Philibert, bien que connecté en permanence j'ai le problème évoqué. J'essaie desormais sans connexion, mais avec l'argument que tu présentes ici, je craind ne pas avoir de solution. De plus, j'ai une autre machine, possédant une configuration logicielle équivalente (notamment XP SP2) qui ne présente pas le même problème...

Thanks a lot 1202 for the translation ;) I am French myself... ;)
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Message 22739 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 22736.  
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> Thanks a lot 1202 for the translation ;) I am French myself... ;)
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LOL, sorry SD, I didn't realise! :-)




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Message 22741 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:18:29 UTC

You had no way to guess SIR ;)
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Message 22756 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 22680.  

> Since the latest release, I have notice an issue with my laptop... after a
> certain amount of time, the application just stops crunching, and the work
> unit is not calculated anymore. Of course, if I shut down BOINC, and restart
> it... then the caculation starts again... until the next hang up. So far,
> every 12 hours or so, I have to restart, and if I do follow the decrease in
> calculation for my laptop, maybe I should restart the application every 3
> hours or even more frequently.
> Does anybody else notice that problem... and if so any solutions?
>
>
> I am running Windows XP on both my laptop and my desktop, both with service
> pack 2. Only the laptop so far stop crushing (the laptop has XP Home, the
> desktop XP Professional, the laptop is an AMD, the desktop is an Intel).



Check out this thread http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=3303
and let me know if this is the same problem. I also have a desktop computer with XP Home SP2 running on it and untill now I thought it was a Win 95 game causing my problem but after last night after restarting BOINC before going to bed I got up today and the seti v 4.03 had droped out again this time with nothing else running but BOINC Seti. This could be an issue with XP Home all my other computers have XP Pro SP 2 and I've had no problems with them I'm going to install the game on one of my XP Pro machines and see what happens.

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Message 22762 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:50:37 UTC

Thank you Tony... I will watch that thread too... at least few other are describing a similar problem.
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Message 22774 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 20:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 22756.  

> > Since the latest release, I have notice an issue with my laptop... after
> a
> > certain amount of time, the application just stops crunching, and the
> work
> > unit is not calculated anymore. Of course, if I shut down BOINC, and
> restart
> > it... then the caculation starts again... until the next hang up. So
> far,
> > every 12 hours or so, I have to restart, and if I do follow the decrease
> in
> > calculation for my laptop, maybe I should restart the application every
> 3
> > hours or even more frequently.
> > Does anybody else notice that problem... and if so any solutions?
> >
> >
> > I am running Windows XP on both my laptop and my desktop, both with
> service
> > pack 2. Only the laptop so far stop crushing (the laptop has XP Home,
> the
> > desktop XP Professional, the laptop is an AMD, the desktop is an Intel).
>
>
>
> Check out this thread
> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=3303
> and let me know if this is the same problem. I also have a desktop computer
> with XP Home SP2 running on it and untill now I thought it was a Win 95 game
> causing my problem but after last night after restarting BOINC before going to
> bed I got up today and the seti v 4.03 had droped out again this time with
> nothing else running but BOINC Seti. This could be an issue with XP Home all
> my other computers have XP Pro SP 2 and I've had no problems with them I'm
> going to install the game on one of my XP Pro machines and see what happens.
>
> Tony

I played the game on one of my XP Pro machines for over 30 min and I had no problems. I think it may be a problem with XP Home wish I had another copy of XP Pro that I could install on the machine I have the problem with but I don't. If any one else has this problem on just their XP Home machines let me know in this thread.

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Message 22891 - Posted: 6 Sep 2004, 3:30:30 UTC - in response to Message 22774.  

I am running 4.06 on window 98SE and have noticed the same thing...the SETI client shuts downs if BOINC is not able to connect to a server. This is apparantly a bug in BOINC since it happens on all OS's. I have not upgraded to 4.07 because I was afraid of losing all my WUs...and now I cannot because the link to 4.07 is dead.

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Message 22893 - Posted: 6 Sep 2004, 3:59:15 UTC - in response to Message 22891.  

> I am running 4.06 on window 98SE and have noticed the same thing...the SETI
> client shuts downs if BOINC is not able to connect to a server. This is
> apparantly a bug in BOINC since it happens on all OS's. I have not upgraded to
> 4.07 because I was afraid of losing all my WUs...and now I cannot because the
> link to 4.07 is dead.
> Don

4.07 did not fix this problem for me. A few other bugs were squashed though.
Rom posted that he has built 4.08 and is awaiting to upload when current data transfers are complete.
Maybe this bug is addressed. Maybe next build. I'm sure in due time...

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Message 22905 - Posted: 6 Sep 2004, 6:17:34 UTC

Hi. I'm running XP Pro SP2, but just recently went from SP1 to 2 and the same problem occurred with either SP. I have 4.05 installed. I'm on a dialup. Sometimes it hangs and I have to stop and restart BOINC after each try to communicate with SETI, but, not always. I have been unable to see a pattern.
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Message 22916 - Posted: 6 Sep 2004, 7:29:30 UTC

Hi Tony

The machine I am using that was having this problem with has XP Home with SP2 installed.

What seems to cause the problem for me is accessing the shared documents on another machine on my network. Anyone else experienced this?


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Message 22918 - Posted: 6 Sep 2004, 7:57:50 UTC

aha! so it isn't just me! :) I was wondering if my write to disk settings were causing this. for my laptop I have it set to only write to the disk every 7200 seconds (2 hours) and I was wondering if maybe seti had to write more often and just stopped if it was unable to do so. But it seems this is unlikely now.

Also, I am running LHC@home along with seti. It seems that every time there was a preemption and a project switch, when the 1st project came up for execution again, there was some kind of error (sorry, didn't write it down) and computation restarted at 0%. Although I believe it finished up in only a few minutes and then didn't display anything for CPU time after it was finished. just '---'.

I was a bit suspicious because my laptop should have crunched through all its work by now but it seems it was going in circles. Preempting and restarting computation. I have temporarily set my resource share for LHC to very low so that it shouldn't preempt anymore. But of course the random work stoppages are still a problem. Nasty little bug it seems. Doubt much will be done about it until Tuesday though. Darn holidays! :)





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Message 23084 - Posted: 6 Sep 2004, 23:12:28 UTC

Just got home. Window XP SP2 laptop running BOINC 4.07 has a "running" work unit which is frozen at a CPU time of 00:00 and the climateprediction model is still showing preempted. So nothing useful has been happening for several hours. Easy to get it working again but is this only happening with service pack 2?
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Message 23132 - Posted: 7 Sep 2004, 4:30:18 UTC - in response to Message 23084.  

on a 2.0GHZ Celeron running 98SE with dialup, Setiathome_4 will quit if I am not online and BOINC tries to establish a connection to the server. Since I have noticed this I make sure to disable all network access unless I am online. I have noticed that there have been other posts about similar behavoir using 98 and all versions of XP.
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Message 25425 - Posted: 12 Sep 2004, 5:25:11 UTC - in response to Message 23084.  

> Window XP SP2 laptop running BOINC 4.07 has a "running"
> work unit which is frozen at a CPU time of 00:00

BOINC 4.08 solved this bug for me.
Tread carefully if you don't want to wait for the next public release.

For more on BOINC 4.08 View this Thread and heed the advice of ralic and Ingleside. I had to wait 55 minutes for my Dialup Laptop to 'unfreeze' this morning. Had a few md5 checksum errors that were cleared with the next communication with the server. Don't rush and BOINC sorts itself out... [/url]
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