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Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
1/6/2007 Two U.S. Border Patrol Agents have been sentenced to a decade long prison terms for apprehending an illegal alien at our border! Almost as outrageous is that the illegal alien drug smuggler, who was given immunity for testifying against the agents is now suing the U.S. for $5 million, claiming he was permanently injured! I have just signed a petition calling for the President to pardon these two Border Agents and I’m asking you to join with me by clicking here for the full story and the petition: http://www.grassfire.org/142/petition.asp?PID=12086235&NID=1 Thanks! Tim Hunt Captain Avatar |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
White House Comments line: 202 . 456 . 1111 Thank you for signing the petition Demanding a Pardon for Border Agents Ramos and Compean Steve Elliott, President Grassfire.org 1/6/2007 |
Knightmare Send message Joined: 16 Aug 04 Posts: 7472 Credit: 94,252 RAC: 0 |
This was one of the most absurd stories i have ever heard. Immunity for a KNOWN drug dealer. Punishment for two agents trying to do their job. I personally think that the prosecutor in this case shouild be fired and sent to Mexico. Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
This was one of the most absurd stories i have ever heard. shhhhhh!!! - don't let anybody know this KM . . . but *he's* already in their poCkeEts . . . ;) |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
Re-POSTED 4 Tim . . . (and the 2 Agents) 1/6/2007 Two U.S. Border Patrol Agents have been sentenced to a decade long prison terms for apprehending an illegal alien at our border! Almost as outrageous is that the illegal alien drug smuggler, who was given immunity for testifying against the agents is now suing the U.S. for $5 million, claiming he was permanently injured! I have just signed a petition calling for the President to pardon these two Border Agents and I’m asking you to join with me by clicking here for the full story and the petition: http://www.grassfire.org/142/petition.asp?PID=12086235&NID=1 Thanks! Tim Hunt Captain Avatar |
Knightmare Send message Joined: 16 Aug 04 Posts: 7472 Credit: 94,252 RAC: 0 |
This was one of the most absurd stories i have ever heard. Wonder how much that drug dealer and his cronies paid for that little bonus??? |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
//signed// |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
This was one of the most absurd stories i have ever heard. @ KM . . .shhhhhhh!!!! - thEy got thE entirE 12,000 sq ft buildin' - on the eastside o' LA (the onE w/ the rats 'chewin' on the money's - they just have ta clear the rats out first - ALL other Contents are theirs ;) |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
//signed// On the face of it, this one sounds outrageous. I have signed as well. I wonder what facts prompted the judge to find against the two? BOINC WIKI |
Knightmare Send message Joined: 16 Aug 04 Posts: 7472 Credit: 94,252 RAC: 0 |
//signed// I think it may have been the fact that they shot the guy in the ass while he was attempting to flee. AFTER he assaulted the two agents. Hell, I don't really know. It's just completely absurd. If the Border Patrol can't GUARD the borders, then what's the point of them being out there? Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
Dune_Finkleberry Send message Joined: 25 Feb 06 Posts: 6454 Credit: 198,656 RAC: 0 |
Almost as outrageous is that the illegal alien drug Now that is just nuts. OK, I had to sign (for as much good that it'll do) Account frozen... |
TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 |
Adding insult to injury here with the illegal alien crap... Our wonderfully run Democrat controlled Senate just voted for allowing Illegal Aliens to have access to our Social Security retirement benefits!!! What kind of crap is that!!!??? I'm still fighting, (for over 2.5 years now), for my legitimate SSD and SSI claim that SSI keeps denying even though I have an SSI Specialist Law Firm fighting for me; yet, these Illegals are going to be free and clear to get SSI retirement benefits!!!??? WTF!!!??? TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
Adding insult to injury here with the illegal alien crap... Our wonderfully run Democrat controlled Senate just voted for allowing Illegal Aliens to have access to our Social Security retirement benefits!!! What kind of crap is that!!!??? TL - do ya 'ave Skype - nobodyatseti |
mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 |
signed |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
I wonder what facts prompted the judge to find against the two? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignacio_Ramos The first external link leads to an article in the Daily Bulletin, containing this quotes: The agents did not report the shooting and Compean picked up his shell casings. The agents, who will be officially fired now that they have been sentenced, said in court that they thought Aldrete had a gun. They were convicted of various charges, including violating the smuggler's civil rights and tampering with evidence. I don't know why there is this mandatory minimum of 10 years, but it's certainly not the judges fault that some lawmakers put it there (probably in the attempt to be seen as tough guys/gals). I can only support Attorney Sutton: a uniform doesn't give you carte blanche, and definitely not for destruction of evidence. Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki |
champ Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 3642 Credit: 1,489,147 RAC: 0 |
signed |
JohneBourne Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 7 Credit: 2,993 RAC: 0 |
i signed it i think |
SteveK Send message Joined: 23 Dec 04 Posts: 54 Credit: 15,550 RAC: 0 |
This is one of the most outrageous things I have ever heard! I signed, and proud to admit it! |
Akhenaton Send message Joined: 11 Apr 03 Posts: 83 Credit: 4,128 RAC: 0 |
I've done some Googling, and it's turned out to be very difficult to find anything about this from a reliable source (the shrieking from the conservative blogosphere doesn't count, but tends to drown out any other viewpoint through sheer volume), but here's the prosecution's side of the story: Statement by US Attorney Johnny Sutton Let me just make a couple of points. Ramos and Compean were convicted of * attempting to club the guy in the face with a shotgun, while he was trying to surrender * shooting a fleeing suspect in the back * tampering with a crime scene * neglecting to report the incident That is no way for law enforcement officials to behave. If they actually did these thigs, and I don't have any reason to doubt that the jury got it wrong, then I think a jail term is justified. Maybe 10+ years seems a bit harsh, but there is a reason that the upholders of the law have to be held to a higher standard. I don't like the fact that Aldrete was given immunity from being charged with smuggling marijuana because he sounds like an absolute slimeball, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. If you've got a choice between prosecuting a known criminal or a crooked cop, surely you have to try to get the crooked cop. Also, a lot is made of Aldrete trying to sue the US. A lot of harrumphing to the tune of "how can you let this Aldrete sue the US?" It's not a question of permitting him to do anything. As I understand it anyone is legally entitled to sue anyone for anything- he's not guaranteed success, and nobody could have prevented him anyway |
Lester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 894 Credit: 31,048 RAC: 0 |
Golly, do you think Californias new idea to give illegals free medical care will help slow the flood of illegals ? Thank you Arnold |
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