Do we already have enough computing power for SETI@home?

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HTH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 8 Jul 00 Posts: 691 Credit: 909,237 RAC: 0	Message 497768 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 8:24:46 UTC Do we already have enough computing power for SETI@home? The band we are looking at is only 2.5 MHz wide. The SKA will use a band about 35 GHz wide. How much more computing power would a band this wide need, if we are going to use SETI@home-like search? Should we also search for TV-transmissions? Manned mission to Mars in 2019 Petition <-- Sign this, please. ID: 497768 ·

Jakob Creutzfeld Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 Oct 00 Posts: 611 Credit: 2,025,000 RAC: 0	Message 497770 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 8:47:04 UTC - in response to Message 497768. Should we also search for TV-transmissions? Oh nooo, please don't! The earth television is bad enough... So I think we don't really need additional extraterrestrial series like "Love Boat", "Dallas" or even Call-in-shows... LOL Andy ID: 497770 ·

HTH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 8 Jul 00 Posts: 691 Credit: 909,237 RAC: 0	Message 497773 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 8:51:18 UTC - in response to Message 497770. Oh nooo, please don't! The earth television is bad enough... So I think we don't really need additional extraterrestrial series like "Love Boat", "Dallas" or even Call-in-shows... LOL At least, I would like to watch "I love ET-Lucy"! Manned mission to Mars in 2019 Petition <-- Sign this, please. ID: 497773 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 497808 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 10:37:21 UTC - in response to Message 497770. Should we also search for TV-transmissions? Oh nooo, please don't! The earth television is bad enough... So I think we don't really need additional extraterrestrial series like "Love Boat", "Dallas" or even Call-in-shows... LOL Andy Then again we may see ourselves one day on Intergalactic Geographic...but watch out for those extraterrestrial infomercials. ID: 497808 ·

Jakob Creutzfeld Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 Oct 00 Posts: 611 Credit: 2,025,000 RAC: 0	Message 497812 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 10:47:50 UTC - in response to Message 497808. Then again we may see ourselves one day on Intergalactic Geographic... LOL... Yeah. My TV guide says, it will be broadcasted on "Wega-CNN III" next week... :-) ID: 497812 ·

mikey Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0	Message 497819 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 11:18:52 UTC - in response to Message 497768. Do we already have enough computing power for SETI@home? The band we are looking at is only 2.5 MHz wide. The SKA will use a band about 35 GHz wide. How much more computing power would a band this wide need, if we are going to use SETI@home-like search? Should we also search for TV-transmissions? We have enough computing power for Seti as it is today. We are not running out of units TODAY because alot of us run multiple projects. BUT when the new units come that are in Beta right now, no we will not. There are so many possible units that have never been checked, and can be made, with the new systems and the even newer ones to come, that Seti could use lots more computing power for a while to come yet. hint...click on a users name in the left hand column and see all the projects they are signed up for. ID: 497819 ·

Calculator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Sep 06 Posts: 62 Credit: 69,529 RAC: 0	Message 497837 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 11:54:12 UTC Yeah, I'd like to see some extrterrestrial peepshow :-)) I am signed up to other projects as well, but they dont regularily get work as I clicked on no more work... ID: 497837 ·

lynxtra Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 137 Credit: 273,636 RAC: 0	Message 497843 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 12:13:02 UTC or ET finally arrives at home directed by Steven "i love aliens" Speilberg the truth is out there ID: 497843 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65738 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 497887 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 13:32:53 UTC Last modified: 5 Jan 2007, 13:34:35 UTC Just what We need an ET-Battlestar Galactica, With My luck the Cylons would be the Good Guys. :( Oh and as I write this I'm building another QX6700 quad core PC, With another one due in a few weeks possibly. :D So Reinforcements are on their way. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 497887 ·

tito Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Jul 02 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,536,875 RAC: 138	Message 497929 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 15:10:01 UTC But, there is written, that this radio telescope will be fully operational in 2020. Till then, home CPU's shall be much, much faster. We don't have to worry. Who knows, maybe in 2020, RAC would be 20.000 per CPU? ID: 497929 ·

Clyde C. Phillips, III Send message Joined: 2 Aug 00 Posts: 1851 Credit: 5,955,047 RAC: 0	Message 497999 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 18:30:49 UTC It seems to me like seeing "ET Lucy" would be an exaggeration unless the aliens were able to beam those TV signals right at us. One square kilometer is big but it's only about 100 times what we're using at Arecibo. Based on what I've read in these and Classic's forums it would take a lot more than that much improvement to detect/read TV signals from other star systems. If Moores Law holds up, in 13-1/2 years (mid-2020) we would see nine doublings of computer power or an increase of 500x. A reasonable-cost Core 2 Duo today does an RAC of about 2,000. So that would be a million. Moores Law might not hold up, though, because of the approach to atomic size (about 0.3 nanometer) of some computer parts. ID: 497999 ·

Diego -=Mav3rik=- Send message Joined: 1 Jun 99 Posts: 333 Credit: 3,587,148 RAC: 0	Message 498187 - Posted: 6 Jan 2007, 3:49:33 UTC - in response to Message 497999. Alien TV features humans as the bad guys. We invade/kill/eat/abduct them. /Mav We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars. (Carl Sagan) ID: 498187 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65738 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 498208 - Posted: 6 Jan 2007, 4:30:41 UTC - in response to Message 498187. Last modified: 6 Jan 2007, 4:31:24 UTC Alien TV features humans as the bad guys. We invade/kill/eat/abduct them. Yeah, UFO the TV series from the 1960's, To the Aliens in It We were the bad guys keeping them on a dying planet. It's too bad that some of the leading actors in the series can't reprise their old roles anymore(Ed Bishop=Commander Straker/2nd down from the top). http://www.ufoseries.com/ The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 498208 ·

Keck_Komputers Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 1575 Credit: 4,152,111 RAC: 1	Message 498333 - Posted: 6 Jan 2007, 11:27:05 UTC - in response to Message 498208. Alien TV features humans as the bad guys. We invade/kill/eat/abduct them. Yeah, UFO the TV series from the 1960's, To the Aliens in It We were the bad guys keeping them on a dying planet. It's too bad that some of the leading actors in the series can't reprise their old roles anymore(Ed Bishop=Commander Straker/2nd down from the top). http://www.ufoseries.com/ I vaguely remember the series. I definately had a UFO lunch box in grade school. BOINC WIKI BOINCing since 2002/12/8 ID: 498333 ·

HTH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 8 Jul 00 Posts: 691 Credit: 909,237 RAC: 0	Message 498751 - Posted: 6 Jan 2007, 19:39:24 UTC - in response to Message 497929. Last modified: 6 Jan 2007, 19:41:19 UTC But, there is written, that this radio telescope will be fully operational in 2020. Till then, home CPU's shall be much, much faster. We don't have to worry. Who knows, maybe in 2020, RAC would be 20.000 per CPU? True, but Allen Telescope Array is already partially complete. It will also have a large bandwidth. I do not know, whether it is possible to distribute ATA-data via Internet to crunch it at home... Maybe we will need those 80-core processors Intel is planning to introduce in the next few years... Manned mission to Mars in 2019 Petition <-- Sign this, please. ID: 498751 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65738 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 498752 - Posted: 6 Jan 2007, 19:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 498751. But, there is written, that this radio telescope will be fully operational in 2020. Till then, home CPU's shall be much, much faster. We don't have to worry. Who knows, maybe in 2020, RAC would be 20.000 per CPU? True, but Allen Telescope Array is already partially complete. It will also have a large bandwidth. I do not, whether it is possible to distribute ATA-data via Internet to crunch it at home... Maybe we will need those 80-core processors Intel is planning to introduce in the next few years... Those 80 cpus aren't x86 compatible, So I'd doubt You'll see them without being made into a bunch of co-processors somehow. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 498752 ·

HTH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 8 Jul 00 Posts: 691 Credit: 909,237 RAC: 0	Message 499084 - Posted: 7 Jan 2007, 15:10:05 UTC - in response to Message 498752. Those 80 cpus aren't x86 compatible, So I'd doubt You'll see them without being made into a bunch of co-processors somehow. What? No x86-support?-( Manned mission to Mars in 2019 Petition <-- Sign this, please. ID: 499084 ·

mikey Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0	Message 499091 - Posted: 7 Jan 2007, 15:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 499084. Those 80 cpus aren't x86 compatible, So I'd doubt You'll see them without being made into a bunch of co-processors somehow. What? No x86-support?-( Details of the new 'chip' are here, even a picture of it. http://news.com.com/Intel+pledges+80+cores+in+five+years/2100-1006_3-6119618.html ID: 499091 ·

ChrisJay Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 35 Credit: 843,487 RAC: 0	Message 499612 - Posted: 8 Jan 2007, 20:56:27 UTC Hmmm, I don't know about you guys, but am thinking it might be slightly expensive! I've got 5 quid if you fancy chipping in, lol Would love to see how they cool a system like that, hard enough with dual core here ID: 499612 ·

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