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Does running the Seti Screen Saver actually slow down the work unit processing?
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Gordon Andrews Send message Joined: 18 Oct 06 Posts: 2 Credit: 21,172,846 RAC: 35 |
Title says it all. |
Voyager Send message Joined: 11 Aug 00 Posts: 35 Credit: 37,199,633 RAC: 19 |
Yes it does. Better set it to switch to an empty screen instead. Happy crunching. Rob. |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
yes, but the amount varies. If you have a modern system with it's own video card with lots of built in memory, the effects are small. If you have an OLD system with integrated video and shared memory, then the affects are greater. but, Yes, either way it robs cycles the application can use. |
fpiaw Send message Joined: 29 Dec 99 Posts: 236 Credit: 1,203,409 RAC: 0 |
I guess it does on the Boinc version. I remember way back when I first started with seti client. The Screen Saver really was a hog back then. My fastest computer at that time was a 700mhz laptop. Once I thought about turning off the screen saver it really pumped out the units. Christopher. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Title says it all. Anything that takes processing time is going to make every other process on that machine a little slower. It takes time to draw.... |
KD [SETI.USA] Send message Joined: 24 Oct 99 Posts: 459 Credit: 2,513,131 RAC: 0 |
Also running optimized apps as a service, but I wouldn't mind a SETI screensaver that is: - 2D, light, efficient - Visually asthetic and practical. Doesn't even need to be as 'fancy' as the old Classic SS. Maybe something to show progress on multiple machines. |
Keck_Komputers Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 1575 Credit: 4,152,111 RAC: 1 |
yes, but the amount varies. If you have a modern system with it's own video card with lots of built in memory, the effects are small. If you have an OLD system with integrated video and shared memory, then the affects are greater. Tests back in the early beta showed that with a seperate openGL compliant cards the screensaver added less than 1% to the crunch times. Onboard openGL compliant graphics added less than 5% to crunch times. Non openGL compliant cards still caused less impact than the SETI classic screensaver. Of course all of this is counterintuitive since the new screensaver is in 3D and moves around. It was tested by running at least one full task with the screensaver active the whole time and one full task with the screensaver inactive the whole time in each configuration. At that time tasks were pretty consistant other than -9 tasks. Things may have changed with enhanced and later core clients. If anyone wants to redo these tests probably the best way currently is have a new install with the screensaver always on and see what the CPU efficiency is after a few days. BOINC WIKI BOINCing since 2002/12/8 |
AlphaLaser Send message Joined: 6 Jul 03 Posts: 262 Credit: 4,430,487 RAC: 0 |
I always just disable my screensaver and just let the monitor go to power-save mode after a few minutes. Every once in awhile I may be interested in looking at the graphics of the running WU and at that point I manually launch it with 'Show Graphics', of course closing it after I'm done. Even if there is not a significant impact on performance as on newer systems I prefer to squeeze as much as I can out of the CPU. |
Clyde C. Phillips, III Send message Joined: 2 Aug 00 Posts: 1851 Credit: 5,955,047 RAC: 0 |
Better yet, trash the default Seticruncher and use Simon's version 2.0. It about doubles my output but changes the pretty graph tray to a jumping Boinc star. Not responsible for problems or damage due to change or attempt. |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
Better yet, trash the default Seticruncher and use Simon's version 2.0. It about doubles my output but changes the pretty graph tray to a jumping Boinc star. Not responsible for problems or damage due to change or attempt. Actually, Simon also built graphics versions of 2.0. So you can have your cake and eat it too, though there will still be a small slowdown. Note that the preferences for the graphics accessible from your account page include settings for the percent of CPU time allowed for the graphics and also for the update frame rate. Either of those can be used to reduce the impact. Using settings which emulate the Classic display might also reduce the CPU load. Joe |
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