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Message 476031 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 1:06:31 UTC
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Over there in the Religion thread there was a discussion, where one User was bullying the other because the first was atheist, and the second one believed in God.
Finally, then came a plea:

Rather than attempt to destroy what you do not wish to believe, why not start an "All Religion Is False" thread and see how it goes? At the very least, you may engender conversations with those that believe as you do, but for different reasons, and give you a better understanding of why you believe as you do.


Because the non-believer didn't react, I decided to start this thread to provoke a discussion.
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Message 476045 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 1:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 476031.
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Over there in the Religion thread there was a discussion, where one User was bullying the other because the first was atheist, and the second one believed in God.
Finally, then came a plea:
Rather than attempt to destroy what you do not wish to believe, why not start an "All Religion Is False" thread and see how it goes? At the very least, you may engender conversations with those that believe as you do, but for different reasons, and give you a better understanding of why you believe as you do.


Because the non-believer didn't react, I decided to start this thread to provoke a discussion.

For me it's a question of capitalization. I am not a Christian, but I am christian. I do not believe in God. But I strongly believe in god.

I have a belief that there is 'something' our there, but I'll be damned if I believe in the Religion and Definitions that is ascribed by most Religions. The only religion is that in your head; the only god is that in your head. If you don't understand it, then you never will because it can't be explained. For crying out loud, how can anyone or any 'thing' explain "god"? You may as well try and explain the concept of a copyright to an ant.

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Message 476078 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 2:02:36 UTC

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

Hi. What're we talking about?
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Message 476136 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 2:45:49 UTC - in response to Message 476078.
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What're we talking about?

Well... Can somebody believe in God and be a good scientist at the same time, or is that antagonistic?
Is Religion (I mean generally believing in a Higher Power) "Opium for the people" like Lenin said a hundred years ago?
"Religion is one of the forms of spiritual oppression which everywhere weighs down heavily upon the masses of the people, over burdened by their perpetual work for others, by want and isolation. Impotence of the exploited classes in their struggle against the exploiters just as inevitably gives rise to the belief in a better life after death as impotence of the savage in his battle with nature gives rise to belief in gods, devils, miracles, and the like. Those who toil and live in want all their lives are taught by religion to be submissive and patient while here on earth, and to take comfort in the hope of a heavenly reward. But those who live by the labour of others are taught by religion to practise charity while on earth, thus offering them a very cheap way of justifying their entire existence as exploiters and selling them at a moderate price tickets to well-being in heaven. Religion is opium for the people. Religion is a sort of spiritual booze, in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man."

Or is Faith just "the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" as the Bible says, and which can even be interpreted for atheists starting a certain task?
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Message 476152 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 3:02:12 UTC - in response to Message 476136.

Does one's occupation - real and divine - truly matter?

I think not.

Therefore, I say decide for yourself; the rest, who cares?
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Message 476199 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 5:17:31 UTC

He already has such a thread: Scientists ONLY.
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Message 476206 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 5:28:08 UTC - in response to Message 476199.

He already has such a thread: Scientists ONLY.

Didn't know that. Ask the mods if they need to knot both threads together.
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Message 476209 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 5:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 476199.

He already has such a thread: Scientists ONLY.

OK, then why does he feel sich a driving need to bother us?

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Message 476210 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 5:45:06 UTC

We already have a religious thread here full of Love and Hate why do we need this one?
It will end up the same with the same old posts, arguments and flames.
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Message 476215 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 5:58:08 UTC - in response to Message 476210.

It will end up the same with the same old posts, arguments and flames.

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Message 476224 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:05:58 UTC - in response to Message 476222.

It will end up the same with the same old posts, arguments and flames.

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Message 476226 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:14:12 UTC - in response to Message 476225.

It will end up the same with the same old posts, arguments and flames.

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Message 476228 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 476209.

He already has such a thread: Scientists ONLY.

OK, then why does he feel sich a driving need to bother us?

Because imho he (I don't want to name Chuck explicitely :)) has the urge to crusade against any belief like the fundamental he seems to be...

Just like: I will not think about that topic because it can't be proven, and because it can't be proven it's not worth to think about, for no-one...
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Message 476231 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 476228.

He already has such a thread: Scientists ONLY.

OK, then why does he feel sich a driving need to bother us?

Because imho he (I don't want to name Chuck explicitely :)) has the urge to crusade against any belief like the fundamental he seems to be...

Just like: I will not think about that topic because it can't be proven, and because it can't be proven it's not worth to think about, for no-one...

well you did!
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Message 476239 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:24:45 UTC - in response to Message 476236.

If this thread degrades into a flamefest you can expect it to be hidden.
(But not by me, I'm off to bed!)

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Message 476250 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:41:19 UTC - in response to Message 476239.

If this thread degrades into a flamefest you can expect it to be hidden.
(But not by me, I'm off to bed!)

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@CA: Do you always enlarge the fineprint? ;o)
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Message 476251 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 476239.

If this thread degrades into a flamefest you can expect it to be hidden.
(But not by me, I'm off to bed!)

Good Nite!


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Message 476252 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 476250.

If this thread degrades into a flamefest you can expect it to be hidden.
(But not by me, I'm off to bed!)

Good Nite!
@CA: Do you always enlarge the fineprint? ;o)


No, sometimes I do it instead.
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Message 476254 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:44:18 UTC - in response to Message 476250.

If this thread degrades into a flamefest you can expect it to be hidden.
(But not by me, I'm off to bed!)

Good Nite!
@CA: Do you always enlarge the fineprint? ;o)

Yes I do!
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Message 476256 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 6:47:46 UTC - in response to Message 476254.

If this thread degrades into a flamefest you can expect it to be hidden.
(But not by me, I'm off to bed!)

Good Nite!
@CA: Do you always enlarge the fineprint? ;o)

Yes I do!


Unless I do it first. :)
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