I am BOINCing at a phenomenal rate now! It seems that everything has finally gelled. Since I have quite a number of WUs, it will be a while before I need to download anymore (a few days anyway). Also, I will be shutting down the PC during the day since the temp has gotten extremely hot here and I don't want to burn up my CPU. If I had AC I would run it 24/7 like when the temp is moderate. Good luck to all on this project....! L8R....

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<p>Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better! </p><p>"There is no fate but that which we make for ourselves."
<p> Live Long and Prosper....</p>

What OS do you run? Win98se? Is there a fix yet? I got a laptop with XP home, that seems to be running ok, right now it has finished its' first wu but is not connected now.Soon I will try to upload and report, hope it works.My fast machines all (three) run 98 so their crunching classic... untill?????

@Siran, would you care to mention the how many wu's
you have? 50+, 70+ ??

> What OS do you run? Win98se? Is there a fix yet? I got a laptop with XP home,
> that seems to be running ok, right now it has finished its' first wu but is
> not connected now.Soon I will try to upload and report, hope it works.My fast
> machines all (three) run 98 so their crunching classic... untill?????
>
>

I'm running WinXP Home Edition with SP1, (not my choice to install SP1). BOINC v4.05 does some wierd corrupting of Win98 and WinME. It has been recommended that users of Windows other than XP not run BOINC until they figure out what the corruption problem is. I have probably finished some 15-20 WUs since the upgrade. 98 and ME can be upgraded to XP, according to what I have read, but.... XP formatted my new drive using NTFS. 98 uses 16 bit and ME can use 32 bit (I forget what the terms were, maybe it was FS16 and FS32, I just don't remember). I don't know that XP will reformat a drive and still keep all apps and data intact. If it can, it seems it would take a really long time to do so. Anyway, I swore I would never use XP and after getting it to take advantage of some hardware, I'm impressed with it. It's the most stable Windows yet. L8R....

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> I'm running WinXP Home Edition with SP1, (not my choice to install SP1).
> BOINC v4.05 does some wierd corrupting of Win98 and WinME. It has been
> recommended that users of Windows other than XP not run BOINC until they
> figure out what the corruption problem is. I have probably finished some
> 15-20 WUs since the upgrade. 98 and ME can be upgraded to XP, according to
> what I have read, but.... XP formatted my new drive using NTFS. 98 uses 16
> bit and ME can use 32 bit (I forget what the terms were, maybe it was FS16 and
> FS32, I just don't remember). I don't know that XP will reformat a drive and
> still keep all apps and data intact. If it can, it seems it would take a
> really long time to do so. Anyway, I swore I would never use XP and after
> getting it to take advantage of some hardware, I'm impressed with it. It's
> the most stable Windows yet. L8R....

Yes XP is very stable and I like it too.
XP can use both FAT32 and NTFS format drives.

You know, I read this twice - and I don't get your point. You run XP - but didn't want to install SP1... you're suggesting Win98 and ME users to upgrade... but they may Format their drives ( which is a choice BTW - not default, XP can run on non NTFS filesystem). So don't (upgrade).. there's something about 16 bit Vs 32 Binaries... but you don't know what... you've done a couple of WU's and you're happy... and thing XP (HOME?) is the most stable Windows yet ? - you're never run WIN2003SE have you ? Have you actaully run comparisons between Win3.1 Vs Win 3.11 Vs Win95 Vs Win98 Vs Win98SE Vs WinME Vs WinNT4.0 Vs WinNT3.51 Vs Win2000 Vs WinCE Vs WinXP(H) Vs WinXP(P) Vs Win2003S Vs Win2003SE have you...

BTW HP-UX is still the O/S of choice... (11iR1)

> @Siran, would you care to mention the how many wu's
> you have? 50+, 70+ ??
>

I know I'm keeping my caches to 2 days - no point in tying up alot of wu's...

On some of the pc's, that's not alot...

Just trying to be fair to others...

Peace, y'all...

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"Nipple Free Since 08/24/04"

> You know, I read this twice - and I don't get your point. You run XP - but
> didn't want to install SP1... you're suggesting Win98 and ME users to
> upgrade... but they may Format their drives ( which is a choice BTW - not
> default, XP can run on non NTFS filesystem). So don't (upgrade).. there's
> something about 16 bit Vs 32 Binaries... but you don't know what... you've
> done a couple of WU's and you're happy... and thing XP (HOME?) is the most
> stable Windows yet ? - you're never run WIN2003SE have you ? Have you actaully
> run comparisons between Win3.1 Vs Win 3.11 Vs Win95 Vs Win98 Vs Win98SE Vs
> WinME Vs WinNT4.0 Vs WinNT3.51 Vs Win2000 Vs WinCE Vs WinXP(H) Vs WinXP(P) Vs
> Win2003S Vs Win2003SE have you...
>
> BTW HP-UX is still the O/S of choice... (11iR1)

Don't forget AS/400's...

Everybody forgets AS/400's...

It's just not fair - they are good machines, truly plug and play - with connectivity for 200+ users out of the box. Token Ring is a much more efficient network standard than ethernot. 4/16 base...

8-)

Thengya, thengya verra mush...

'-~



"Nipple Free Since 08/24/04"

you're right LOL - AS/400 ... what a piece of work...

> You know, I read this twice - and I don't get your point. You run XP - but
> didn't want to install SP1... you're suggesting Win98 and ME users to
> upgrade... but they may Format their drives ( which is a choice BTW - not
> default, XP can run on non NTFS filesystem). So don't (upgrade).. there's
> something about 16 bit Vs 32 Binaries... but you don't know what... you've
> done a couple of WU's and you're happy... and thing XP (HOME?) is the most
> stable Windows yet ? - you're never run WIN2003SE have you ? Have you actaully
> run comparisons between Win3.1 Vs Win 3.11 Vs Win95 Vs Win98 Vs Win98SE Vs
> WinME Vs WinNT4.0 Vs WinNT3.51 Vs Win2000 Vs WinCE Vs WinXP(H) Vs WinXP(P) Vs
> Win2003S Vs Win2003SE have you...
>

I have used 3.1 - 3.11 - 98SE - NT4 - 2000 - XP H - XP P
on different PC in various places in time but I've never
tried WinCE on a PC so far...It sure works well on my
pocketPC for sure.

> you're right LOL - AS/400 ... what a piece of work...
>

Not very good to play doom...

> I have used 3.1 - 3.11 - 98SE - NT4 - 2000 - XP H - XP P
> on different PC in various places in time but I've never
> tried WinCE on a PC so far...It sure works well on my
> pocketPC for sure.
>

Ooooo, Oooooo...

I have - Winterm (smart terminals - no hd, full network capability), WinCE OS...

Damn, I'm good...

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"Nipple Free Since 08/24/04"

> > you're right LOL - AS/400 ... what a piece of work...
> >
>
> Not very good to play doom...

Ahhh, but have PLAYED the text version of Doom3???

Pretty spine-chilling...

And the big iron sure throws it onto the screen quick enough...

'-~



"Nipple Free Since 08/24/04"

You forgot the new win XP64 bit lol
[url=http://usa.duane-n-lisa.net]

The BEST OS ever and fully 64. I tried it on a dual G5. A dream.

> @Siran, would you care to mention the how many wu's
> you have? 50+, 70+ ??
>
>

As of 6:00 am California time, I have 27 waiting and 2 running. L8R....

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Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better! </p><p>"There is no fate but that which we make for ourselves."</p><p> Live Long and Prosper....</p>

@Siran, would you care to mention how many wu's
> you have? 50+, 70+ ??

Vulc...I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, just curious,
I have 19 and 1 running...here's an amazing fact, IMHO
anyway. Speaking of OS's...I'm running Fedora 1 on my
gf's computer here in China (I am American and proud
of it, but my work brings me here to live...cool deal)
She has a computer with only 96MEGS of RAM, I cut the
hard drive, she's using a pirated version of XP, I'm
running *nix on the other side, Intel(R) Celeron(R)
CPU 1.70GHz Pentium, and I'm crunching 3 wu's a day,
avg 7 hrs...I find that pretty amazing, I know a lot
of you guys are knocking out wu's in like 15 to 30
minutes, even faster in some cases. For me 3 a day
will suffice for now...I'm content...Chinese girl
friend equates to Chinese computer...go figure ;)

@Classy Dave...Don't bogart that joint my friend ;)

> @Siran, would you care to mention how many wu's
> > you have? 50+, 70+ ??
>
> Vulc...I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, just curious,
> I have 19 and 1 running...here's an amazing fact, IMHO
> anyway. Speaking of OS's...I'm running Fedora 1 on my
> gf's computer here in China (I am American and proud
> of it, but my work brings me here to live...cool deal)
> She has a computer with only 96MEGS of RAM, I cut the
> hard drive, she's using a pirated version of XP, I'm
> running *nix on the other side, Intel(R) Celeron(R)
> CPU 1.70GHz Pentium, and I'm crunching 3 wu's a day,
> avg 7 hrs...I find that pretty amazing, I know a lot
> of you guys are knocking out wu's in like 15 to 30
> minutes, even faster in some cases. For me 3 a day
> will suffice for now...I'm content...Chinese girl
> friend equates to Chinese computer...go figure ;)
>
> @Classy Dave...Don't bogart that joint my friend ;)
>

Hey (insert name here), I didn't think you were being a smart ass. I thought you had asked a legitimate question for which I was pleased to reply to. My PC is brand new, I built it myself. New case w/power supply (needed for the new CPU), new motherboard, P4 2.8Ghz CPU w/Hyper-Threading (why I can run 2 work units at the same time), 512 MB High-Speed ram, high speed GeForce fx 8X AGP graphics card (made in China ;) ), 8 fans (1 CPU, 1 on graphics card), and various other new components. With v3 of BOINC I was able to upload/download 2 WUs and run computations on 2 WUs at the same time. With v4.05 it preempts the computation while uploading/downloading which I do not like. My PC can handle anything thrown at it, I do not know why they changed this in v4.05. There also seems to be some problem with auto-dialing my dial-up Internet connection. In the morning, when I get up for work, I have to manually dial in and then force the uploads. My WUs average about 3hrs 43min to complete. I can average 7 to 10 WUs a day if I didn't have to shut down the PC because of the hot weather we have here. This is getting long, I should probably cut short here. Enjoy China.... L8R....

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Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better! </p><p>"There is no fate but that which we make for ourselves."</p><p> Live Long and Prosper....</p>

> @Classy Dave...Don't bogart that joint my friend ;)

If I do - it's only 'cause I'm one toke over the line...

'-~



"Nipple Free Since 08/24/04"

> You know, I read this twice - and I don't get your point. You run XP - but
> didn't want to install SP1... you're suggesting Win98 and ME users to
> upgrade... but they may Format their drives ( which is a choice BTW - not
> default, XP can run on non NTFS filesystem). So don't (upgrade).. there's
> something about 16 bit Vs 32 Binaries... but you don't know what... you've
> done a couple of WU's and you're happy... and thing XP (HOME?) is the most
> stable Windows yet ? - you're never run WIN2003SE have you ? Have you actaully
> run comparisons between Win3.1 Vs Win 3.11 Vs Win95 Vs Win98 Vs Win98SE Vs
> WinME Vs WinNT4.0 Vs WinNT3.51 Vs Win2000 Vs WinCE Vs WinXP(H) Vs WinXP(P) Vs
> Win2003S Vs Win2003SE have you...
>
> BTW HP-UX is still the O/S of choice... (11iR1)
>

Here's what I replied to the post:

I'm running WinXP Home Edition with SP1, (not my choice to install SP1). BOINC v4.05 does some wierd corrupting of Win98 and WinME. It has been recommended that users of Windows other than XP not run BOINC until they figure out what the corruption problem is. I have probably finished some 15-20 WUs since the upgrade. 98 and ME can be upgraded to XP, according to what I have read, but.... XP formatted my new drive using NTFS. 98 uses 16 bit and ME can use 32 bit (I forget what the terms were, maybe it was FS16 and FS32, I just don't remember). I don't know that XP will reformat a drive and still keep all apps and data intact. If it can, it seems it would take a really long time to do so. Anyway, I swore I would never use XP and after getting it to take advantage of some hardware, I'm impressed with it. It's the most stable Windows yet. L8R....

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1. I would not have installed SP1 had I had the option not to.
2. I did NOT recommend upgrading to XP. (See 1st bolded statement above)
3. I did not specifically say that XP WOULD format their HD with NTFS. I do not remember having a choice of formats. The terms I couldn't remember at the time are FAT16 and FAT32. (See 2nd bolded statement and 3rd italisized/bolded statement above)
4. I have done far more than a "couple WU's" since upgrading to v4.05 BOINC.
5. From my past experiences with various versions of Windows, (v3.11 through ME), XP Home is the most stable Windows I have ever used. As a matter of fact, we use Win 2K at work and I have seen quite a lot of down time becuase of it.
6. I have never heard of "HP-UX". It sounds like something from HP.
7. And, I don't see how you could have made the statements you said I said when what I said is definately NOT what you said. (See if you can figure the logic in that last statement)

L8R....

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Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better! </p><p>"There is no fate but that which we make for ourselves."</p><p> Live Long and Prosper....</p>