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Message 437658 - Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 11:01:13 UTC

I got an e-mail today from Seti@Home/BOINC telling me that "We notice that you registered with SETI@home on 01 December 2000, and that we haven't yet credited you with any completed work for SETI@home/BOINC."

I have done a bucket load of work for seti on several home PCs since Dec 2000.

Here's an e-mail from way back in 2004 I received from you guys to say thanks:

> From: "SETI@home" <setiathome@ssl.berkeley.edu>
> Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:55:06 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: SETI@home news bulletin
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> Dear DCRJONES:
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> SETI@home turned five years old on May 17, 2004!
> Thanks for participating in SETI@home.
> According to our records, you have processed 263 work units,
> the most recent on May 21, 2004.
> Your contribution of computer time is greatly appreciated.

What's going on?

Have you guys lost some of my account details when you moved to BOINC or something?

Can I get my credits back please?

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Message 437708 - Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 12:43:12 UTC

SETI@home classic workunits 586
SETI@home classic CPU time 20,707 hours

You classic credits are on your account. They do not translate into BOINC credits, as it is a totally different format. You did not lose anything. You just have done no BOINC work, unless you are doing it under a different account.



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Message 437979 - Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 20:32:23 UTC

I got the same question:
"We notice that you registered with SETI@home on 07 June 1999, and that we haven't yet credited you with any completed work for SETI@home/BOINC."
I completed some 700 work units for seti.
The mail should read: "You recently (4-10-2006 in my case) switched to BOINC...". Still it is a bit impatient to start asking for completed work-packages within 10 days. My poor old Athlon 550 is hardly half way through.
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Message 438022 - Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 21:33:50 UTC - in response to Message 437979.  
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I got the same question:
"We notice that you registered with SETI@home on 07 June 1999, and that we haven't yet credited you with any completed work for SETI@home/BOINC."
I completed some 700 work units for seti.
The mail should read: "You recently (4-10-2006 in my case) switched to BOINC...". Still it is a bit impatient to start asking for completed work-packages within 10 days. My poor old Athlon 550 is hardly half way through.

If you cannot finish work within 14 days you should not be using that computer on Boinc. There is a max 10 day cache allowed to prevent people taking a unit and then returning it 2 years later and wanting credit for it. Boinc credits are partially based on a peer review process. You and several other people get the exact same unit. Your computer should come up with the exact same, or very close, to the numbers other people do that crunch that same unit. If not somethign is wrong. Therefore units must be returned within 14 days or they are sent out to someone else and you will get no credit for them, except in very special circumstances, which are not likely.
You may wish to look into an "optimized" version of the software if you truly are only half way thru at 10 days, and you are crunching that unit for Seti.

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Message 440552 - Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 15:05:11 UTC

Hi folks --

I am a relative newbie (signed on 11.2005) having the same issue, but I have only used BOINC (I never used classic). It is kind of odd -- when I click on the "Your Account" button in BOINC, it pulls a web page that says I have 26,727.94 credits. But, when I look at my account info, it says I have no credits. I also got the same email saying I hadn't done any work. :-(

So I both am getting credit and not getting credit. Any thoughts on how to fix that?

Thanks!

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Message 440562 - Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 15:37:15 UTC - in response to Message 440552.  

Hi folks --

I am a relative newbie (signed on 11.2005) having the same issue, but I have only used BOINC (I never used classic). It is kind of odd -- when I click on the "Your Account" button in BOINC, it pulls a web page that says I have 26,727.94 credits. But, when I look at my account info, it says I have no credits. I also got the same email saying I hadn't done any work. :-(

So I both am getting credit and not getting credit. Any thoughts on how to fix that?

Thanks!

k

The acocunt you are on show 0, so it looks like you have 2 accounts. Change the infomation in this account to garbage, and use the account you get to when you click "You Account" in the BOINC Manager.


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Message 441396 - Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 20:41:49 UTC

I have a simular situation.

I have a new computer and a new e-mail address.

When I try to get my old work data switched over to my new e-mail address, the web site sends an e-mail to my old e-mail address that has not functioned for 4 years. What is up with that.

How do I get my old work credits up-dated now?

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Message 441408 - Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 21:07:42 UTC - in response to Message 441396.  
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I have a simular situation.

I have a new computer and a new e-mail address.

When I try to get my old work data switched over to my new e-mail address, the web site sends an e-mail to my old e-mail address that has not functioned for 4 years. What is up with that.

How do I get my old work credits up-dated now?

Tom Johnson

If you log in to the account and you can change the email address. It is the unique identifyer of the account. You will need to know your password. If you can't log into the account and your email account is dead then your in a catch 22 situation.

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Message 452975 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 21:06:09 UTC - in response to Message 438022.  

If you cannot finish work within 14 days you should not be using that computer on Boinc. There is a max 10 day cache allowed to prevent people taking a unit and then returning it 2 years later and wanting credit for it.

I ran seti for quite a while and just wanted to donate some computer power for Boinc, as suggested by seti. But I do not and will not leave my computer running for the sake of Boinc alone. However noble the goals may be, spending 200 Watts continously is just a waste of energy. I will power on my system only when I work on it and if it turns out that this on average is not long enough to complete work units in time, then I will just stop participating.
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Message 453003 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 22:28:57 UTC - in response to Message 452975.  

I ran seti for quite a while and just wanted to donate some computer power for Boinc, as suggested by seti. But I do not and will not leave my computer running for the sake of Boinc alone. However noble the goals may be, spending 200 Watts continously is just a waste of energy. I will power on my system only when I work on it and if it turns out that this on average is not long enough to complete work units in time, then I will just stop participating.



Sounds reasonable to me. If your computer isn't powered on enough anyway, it would be virtually useless to the science.

That's why there are two separate stats entitled "% of time BOINC is running" and "While BOINC running, % of time work allowed", which both affect your cache. If you have a 10 day cache, but only power on your system a few hours a week, BOINC will reduce those stats so as to not over-burden your system with work you'll never complete.

If you don't run your computer for more than 12 hours a month, then you'll probably not even be able to return one single result on time. If you do have your computer powered on at least 12 hours per month, then you should be able to do at least one workunit per month.
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