Win98SE, I wouldn't touch ME with a barge pole ;-)

Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 1
Project seti@home
gui 4.05

made backup of boinc folder
overinstalled with 4.06
first start

--- - 2004-09-01 08:54:20 - Starting BOINC client version 4.06 for windows_intelx86
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 08:54:20 - Project prefs: using your defaults
--- - 2004-09-01 08:54:20 - Version Change Detected (4.05 -> 4.06); running CPU benchmarks
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 08:54:20 - Host ID is 69970
--- - 2004-09-01 08:54:20 - General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2004-08-31 01:52:42)
--- - 2004-09-01 08:54:20 - General prefs: using your defaults
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 08:54:20 - Resuming computation for result 04my04aa.2277.15280.959660.42_2 using setiathome version 4.03
--- - 2004-09-01 08:54:21 - Running CPU benchmarks
--- - 2004-09-01 08:54:21 - Suspending computation and network activity - running CPU benchmarks
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:22 - Benchmark results:
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:22 - Number of CPUs: 1
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:22 - 2354 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:22 - 4313 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:22 - Finished CPU benchmarks
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:23 - Resuming computation and network activity
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:23 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
--- - 2004-09-01 08:55:29 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x

here made manual update

SETI@home - 2004-09-01 08:58:03 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 08:58:06 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 08:58:06 - Project prefs: using your defaults
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:06:57 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:07:00 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:07:37 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:07:40 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded


in project tap, values updated

15+ minutes alive, still progressing, no c0000005, no drwatson

edit/update
and this one a windows 2000
made disable/enable network access
made update
had 1 ready 2 report, 4.06 uploaded it, still crunching

--- - 2004-09-01 09:41:09 - Starting BOINC client version 4.06 for windows_intelx86
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:41:09 - Project prefs: using your defaults
--- - 2004-09-01 09:41:09 - Version Change Detected (4.05 -> 4.06); running CPU benchmarks
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:41:09 - Host ID is 61608
--- - 2004-09-01 09:41:09 - General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2004-08-31 01:52:42)
--- - 2004-09-01 09:41:09 - General prefs: using your defaults
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:41:09 - Resuming computation for result 04my04aa.2277.10882.98570.222_6 using setiathome version 4.03
--- - 2004-09-01 09:41:10 - Running CPU benchmarks
--- - 2004-09-01 09:41:10 - Suspending computation and network activity - running CPU benchmarks
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:12 - Benchmark results:
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:12 - Number of CPUs: 1
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:12 - 2680 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:12 - 4762 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:12 - Finished CPU benchmarks
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:13 - Resuming computation and network activity
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:13 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
--- - 2004-09-01 09:42:56 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
--- - 2004-09-01 09:43:32 - Suspending network activity - user request
--- - 2004-09-01 09:43:35 - Resuming network activity
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:43:49 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
--- - 2004-09-01 09:43:56 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:43:56 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 09:43:56 - Project prefs: using your defaults

in project tap, values updated

looks great! so far no error.

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GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
1:1, just afther setup of 4.06, no chance to put param. BoinView is great, but this was an other rpc tool. x= changed ip!

I exited Boinc 4.05, then installed and launched 4.06 . Right away I was able to manually update three completed WU's that were left from 4.05, already a huge improvement.

I have another WU that should be finishing in a couple hours, I'll let it do its thing automaticlly and keep yall posted.

> --- - 2004-09-01 08:55:23 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
> --- - 2004-09-01 08:55:29 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
>

I'm assuming Boincview is doing that.

>
> > --- - 2004-09-01 08:55:23 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
> > --- - 2004-09-01 08:55:29 - GUI RPC request from non-allowed address x
> >
>
> I'm assuming Boincview is doing that.

Yes, I get that from Boincview when I don't start a client with the
-allow_remote_gui_rpc parameter

> Okay, I've built a new build, BOINC CC 4.06.

Looks like u done a very good job Rom :D

Works like a charm (here W98SE).

> Okay, I've built a new build, BOINC CC 4.06.

Downloaded & installed 4.06 over the top of 4.05.

Fired up OK, uploaded previously completed Work Unit.

SETI@home - 2004-09-01 17:33:08 - Started upload of 25ap04aa.23553.20882.36058.37_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 17:33:11 - Finished upload of 25ap04aa.23553.20882.36058.37_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-09-01 17:33:11 - No data transferred
(That no data transferred glitch again).

It's continued with the existing Work Units i had & downloaded several more with no problems (and as fast as it's ever been for me).

4.06 has been running for 10 minutes now, system still OK, mouse not freezing etc.
Will check back tonight after squash- that should give it time enough to process about 2 WUs & try for several more.

Hopefully Rom's work has paid off.
*fingers crossed*


Grant
Darwin NT.


Update- been running for 30+min, downloaded more workunits, updated some changed preferences; still going OK.
Tentatively optimistic...

>
> Update- been running for 30+min, downloaded more workunits, updated some
> changed preferences; still going OK.
> Tentatively optimistic...
>

I guess they'll have to check that the new source doesn't break XP and Nix machines now.

slightly off topic... noticed something odd with 4.05 running on XP with sah and cpdn. Haven't had any major problems but twice in the last 24h the sah client has stopped processing after taking over from cpdn. the computer doesn't crash but nothing is processed and system idle goes up to 99% until I stop and restart boinc. Is this related to the 98 problem??

Robert
S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member

I've had the Win98 problems with 4.05 too, and don't really have anything to add on the main issues. One thing I've seen that nobody's yet mentioned, though:

After my first 4.05 crash, every time I started BOINC 4.05 (I don't do this any more!) I was getting messages from ZoneAlarm saying 'boinc_gui is trying to act as a server' and 'boinc_gui is trying to access the trusted zone'. I didn't get this from 3.20, and I didn't get it from 4.05 when I installed it (i.e. before the first upload and the first triggering of the slowdown/crash problem).

Allowing or denying this access didn't seem to make any difference to Boinc's behaviour.

I'm hoping this will either turn out to be normal v4 practice or that it will go away when I download v4.06 or higher (I'm going to wait a little while before doing this, as I don't have much time to devote to Boinc right now).

Anyone else seen anything similar?
Graham Thomas
Innovation Studies
University of East London, UK

two 4.06 Clients & seti@home

Windows XP Pro and windows 2000:


each did:

finished a wu,
started a new one,
uploaded finished wu,
uploaded rReport.

both with upload Throughput messages


both still progressing with the new one.

the XP is running now over 3h

both XP pro and w2k, no error.


cool!

Hello, All!
How's it going? I have also had the problem with version 4.05 and just installed 4.06. If you do not hear from me you may assume it is running fine. I am running a Compag7120US, 1.5 GHz Pentium 4, 128KB memory and 60 Gig hard drive and Windows ME. When I installed and ran version 4.05, I went to bed with it running. Woke up and had to hard reset computer. When started, it appeared that it had finished a work unit and then froze, as it showed about 48 seconds on the new work unit [It takes that long to load all my programs at start-up]. The first unit had taken about 7 hours, average for this machine. I had disabled network access because I use a dial-up at the moment, so should not have been trying to transfer anything. The second unit finished in only 7 minutes, and then the mouse slowed down, etc.. CRTL-A-D restarted machine. Saw that the second unit had finished already and network access had also been disabled at that time. I am about an hour into the next work unit and will write again if anything bad happens when finished with this unit.
I have a stupid question. I understand that you were committing all your time to solving the bug, but why didn't you program BOINC not to send any work units to anyone running 98 and/or ME but to send a message instead, maybe something like "Compatibility issues with Windows 98/ME. Please check home page for details."? and that way people would have known what was going on. You have the information on what machines we are using and what platforms, etc.. I guess I am asking why, since you had the info, you didn't use it? Why else do you have all of that information about each of our computers, if not to warn us about such bugs and things?
I am going to keep classic on my new laptop for now, even though it has XP on it. Besides, I hope you leave classic up for a while as I am above 4,100 units and would like to hit 5,000 before ending it, although you will probably shut down classic long before that. Oh, well, such is life! As my Mom used to say, "They get you coming and they get you going, and if you stand still they get you twice, so you had better keep moving!" hahaha
Have a Good One! Love, Peace and Perception

Wizard2468@Juno.com

P.S.: Is there anyone there I could e-mail an idea I have for a web site with both scientific and commercial uses? I have several ideas for different projects but I am having trouble finding anyone who will listen to them. I also have an idea for using lightning for electrical power, which would be free energy, no fuel or conversion costs. I just do not have the resources and even after going back to college and getting a degree, it is difficult to find someone who will take you seriously. I am an old hippie and I am not looking for money, just want to help the World, ya know? Thank you for any help you can provide in this area. Love, Peace and Perception

> rom, I've sent in a request to Support@HP they say they'll respond in an
> hour. we'll see.
>

So my first wu with 4.06 has completed and the next one started with no crashes, also there has been some uploading and downloading. Hooray!


> Uninstalled 4.05 and installed 4.06 on a 98SE P4 Northwood machine. So far so
> good. Disabling network access stopped the crashes for me, with 4.06 I have
> downloaded 4 wu's and uploaded all results. Waiting to see what happens when
> the current wu finishes crunching and a new one starts. :)
>
>
>

Hi All,
Is the upgrade to 4.06 for everyone or just those using 98,98SE. I ask because I see post here from people that upgraded that had Win XP. My XP appears to be acting fine with the exception of "Short WU's" which is posted on a different thread. Is this an upgrade for everyone?

Regards,

Rocky

just installed ver 4.06 under my win me computer.

dl 2 wus, first is on a good way, no freeze, no hdd explosion. gone wait until the 2nd starts.....

what is the use of the .pbd files in the zip??

thanks

4hrs and counting.

No hints of slowing down, crashing... 75% through one work unit, has connected and returned others.

The 4.05 client didnt last 30 seconds ... so things are looking good.

Nice work ROM.

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Rom,

I've downloaded and installed 4.06 on my 98SE machine. It seems to run well, time will tell.

What is the other file for and what do I do with it?

BOINC 4.06 is using CPU 100%, but stil mulittasking fine on my W98/W98se PC's.
Everything works OK.
Am I the only one?
Regards
alo_dk

> just installed ver 4.06 under my win me computer.
>
> dl 2 wus, first is on a good way, no freeze, no hdd explosion. gone wait until
> the 2nd starts.....
>
> what is the use of the .pbd files in the zip??
>
> thanks
>
>
The .pdb files are Reference file for debugging errors.
Unzip and put them in the Boinc directory [folder], IE c:\program files\boinc.

Fred BOINC Alpha & BOINC Beta Tester