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Jim Send message Joined: 28 Jan 00 Posts: 614 Credit: 2,031,206 RAC: 0 |
OMG, this is hilarious. :) I had no idea that we were in competition for the highest ranking. This whole time I thought it was for a bunch of people to reach a common goal. I am so glad I don't belong to a team, that way I don't have anything to prove to anyone else or show justification for my time. LOL Just give me WU, and I'll make sure they're crunched.You're right, this thread is funny. But just a perspective reminder regarding credits; if it weren't for the spirit of competition, not a single one of the available projects would be a fraction as far along as they are. Competition drives people, like myself, to build more machines, upgrade them to make them faster and spend hard earned money to keep them running 24/7. Lo and behold, more science is done for all. In addition, fanatics tend to spread "the word" more emphatically, in my experience, and more people join as a result. I'm not slapping you, Mr. Andersen. I just felt the need to explain a different perspective on BOINC and crunching than you may have considered before. Having lots of credits doesn't make anyone a better person than another. I'm on the record many times supporting that statement. But neither does crunching based on a philosophy of "I'm only in it for the science" make such a person more "pure" or "righteous". Please understand, Mr. Andersen, this is not a personal attack nor is it a guess at your philosophies or motivations. I see the whole DC endeavor in the same way as I do the Walk/run for juvenile diabetes that I paticipate in every year. Some go slow, some charge ahead, all do the best that they are able in order to contribute to a good cause. And in the end, everyone has a different reason for being there. Crunch on - Jim Without love, breath is just a clock ... ticking. Equilibrium |
MJKelleher Send message Joined: 1 Jul 99 Posts: 2048 Credit: 1,575,401 RAC: 0 |
I wish these message boards showed more info on each post, like what post or user they are writen in reply to, etc.The top line of your own message says Message 382622 - Posted 30 Jul 2006 21:38:13 UTC - in response to Message ID 382618.If you click on the "in response to" message number, it'll take you back to that message where you can see who wrote it, and what message that one is in response to. MJ |
Diego -=Mav3rik=- Send message Joined: 1 Jun 99 Posts: 333 Credit: 3,587,148 RAC: 0 |
To MJKelleher: True, I must be blind. Funny thing is I must have seen that link a thousand times. Still, a user name there would be nice. And user name in quotes. Regards. /Mav We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars. (Carl Sagan) |
Stephen Andersen Send message Joined: 22 Mar 03 Posts: 25 Credit: 49,379 RAC: 0 |
OMG, this is hilarious. :) I had no idea that we were in competition for the highest ranking. This whole time I thought it was for a bunch of people to reach a common goal. I am so glad I don't belong to a team, that way I don't have anything to prove to anyone else or show justification for my time. LOL Just give me WU, and I'll make sure they're crunched.You're right, this thread is funny. But just a perspective reminder regarding credits; if it weren't for the spirit of competition, not a single one of the available projects would be a fraction as far along as they are. Competition drives people, like myself, to build more machines, upgrade them to make them faster and spend hard earned money to keep them running 24/7. Lo and behold, more science is done for all. In addition, fanatics tend to spread "the word" more emphatically, in my experience, and more people join as a result. I concur and no offense taken, Jim. Please call me Steve. I understand the comraderie that is formed by a team as I understand the need for competition. I'm sure it is a driving force for more and more crunching to be performed. Heck, I'll admit I've got 4 computers that I've pieced together to help in the effort. So in essence, I have my own team. ;) Best Regards, Steve |
Stephen Andersen Send message Joined: 22 Mar 03 Posts: 25 Credit: 49,379 RAC: 0 |
I wish these message boards showed more info on each post, like what post or user they are writen in reply to, etc. The he/she said addition would be a nice improvement. It would be alot easier than trying to match post numbers. That's why we have computers... hehehehe My intentions were to point out how worried this individual was about ranking and such. Not to cause anger amongst anyone. I also go on vacation and shutdown my PCs, come home, power up, and continue on. I can understand his concern about RACs as associated with the team/individual progress. I hope for him and his team it doesn't affect it too much. It's all good... :) |
Diego -=Mav3rik=- Send message Joined: 1 Jun 99 Posts: 333 Credit: 3,587,148 RAC: 0 |
I concur and no offense taken, Jim. Please call me Steve. I understand the comraderie that is formed by a team as I understand the need for competition. I'm sure it is a driving force for more and more crunching to be performed. Heck, I'll admit I've got 4 computers that I've pieced together to help in the effort. So in essence, I have my own team. ;) And, you show your credit and rank in your signature. Why is that? ;) I'm the one that's always saying that "credits are the opiate of the masses", and I do usually speak against the people that seem to only crunch for the credit. But like Jim said, they are "necessary". It drives more people to crunch more and faster, and in the end science wins. /Mav We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars. (Carl Sagan) |
Diego -=Mav3rik=- Send message Joined: 1 Jun 99 Posts: 333 Credit: 3,587,148 RAC: 0 |
My intentions were to point out how worried this individual was about ranking and such. Not to cause anger amongst anyone. I also go on vacation and shutdown my PCs, come home, power up, and continue on. I can understand his concern about RACs as associated with the team/individual progress. I hope for him and his team it doesn't affect it too much. Like I said, in my opinion RAC is useless. But I do understand why a person could worry about it dropping, inside a team. Because if you go to a teams page, the ranking list that is displayed by default is orderer by RAC (you can re-arrange it by credits), and not by credit, thus a user with 1000 credits can appear higher in the ranking than a user with 1000000 credits, if the former has a higher RAC. /Shrug. /Mav We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars. (Carl Sagan) |
Stephen Andersen Send message Joined: 22 Mar 03 Posts: 25 Credit: 49,379 RAC: 0 |
And, you show your credit and rank in your signature. Why is that? ;) I guess I was sounding hipocritical. LMAO Oh, how we discover new things about ourselves daily. p.s. I guess I put them there to show that I'm actively participating. Since I can't run BOINC on my government computer, I look for my graphic to show me that my computers are uploading during the day. |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
I guess I put them there to show that I'm actively participating. Since I can't run BOINC on my government computer, I look for my graphic to show me that my computers are uploading during the day. Bingo, I don't general show my sig, but I do if I'm answering a new user so that they know the advice they're seeing is from someone who's "been around" a while. Otherwise, I frequently look at my sig to make sure my machines are still working and to find out when I'm ready to break that new "milestone" I set for myself (I have one/two coming up shortly, hehe). |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
I'm going to stop working for a while and while I'm sitting around having fun my bank account balance will continue to drop. That will prove my point that banks and work suck. They do, I just never saw it proved so eloquently. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Geez, I watch My bank account drop all the time and work, What's that? ;) The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Geez, I watch My bank account drop all the time and work, What's that? ;) That just proves that WORK SUCKS! 8-p |
Stefan Send message Joined: 12 Nov 05 Posts: 226 Credit: 213,560 RAC: 0 |
Geez, I watch My bank account drop all the time and work, What's that? ;) You just figured that out? :p Human Stupidity Is Infinite... |
Diego -=Mav3rik=- Send message Joined: 1 Jun 99 Posts: 333 Credit: 3,587,148 RAC: 0 |
Geez, I watch My bank account drop all the time and work, What's that? ;) Yeah I bet porn actors say that all the time. :p /Mav We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars. (Carl Sagan) |
Brian Silvers Send message Joined: 11 Jun 99 Posts: 1681 Credit: 492,052 RAC: 0 |
Geez, I watch My bank account drop all the time and work, What's that? ;) ...but not the fluffers... |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Geez, I watch My bank account drop all the time and work, What's that? ;) Its not that, I'm just permanently disabled and so I don't work for anyone anymore, I'm My own boss as a result. It's not like I've never worked a day in My life and I've never been rich or well off or even close to It and neither were My parents. If I turned My PCs off, I'd 1st do all My WU's in My cache then turn them off, Unless the power went out 1st of course. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
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