with the SETI scheduler down... IT'S ALIVE!

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http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ - 2004-08-28 19:12:00 - Project prefs: using your defaults
climateprediction.net - 2004-08-28 19:12:00 - Project prefs: using your defaults
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ - 2004-08-28 19:12:00 - Host ID not assigned yet
climateprediction.net - 2004-08-28 19:12:00 - Host ID is 2870
--- - 2004-08-28 19:12:00 - General prefs: from climateprediction.net (last modified 2004-08-28 13:23:01)
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climateprediction.net - 2004-08-28 19:12:00 - Resuming computation for result 01b9_300026686_0 using hadsm3 version 4.03
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ - 2004-08-28 19:12:01 - Deferring communication with project for 46 seconds
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ - 2004-08-28 19:12:47 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ - 2004-08-28 19:12:50 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ - 2004-08-28 19:12:50 - No schedulers responded
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ - 2004-08-28 19:12:50 - Deferring communication with project for 17 minutes and 19 seconds

Errmmmm.... No.

The upgrade isn't happening until tomorrow now. (29th)

What you list is absolutely normal even if the project wants to see a different major version. If the S@H schedulers were up, you'd see the "You are using blah blah, and you need blah, blah" message. :)

Can you not read?

"with the SETI schedulers down..."

simple put... You can attatch but get no work. If all goes according to plan, and since when has anything SETI gone according to plan, we'll start getting WU's.

> Errmmmm.... No.
>
> The upgrade isn't happening until tomorrow now. (29th)
>
> What you list is absolutely normal even if the project wants to see a
> different major version. If the S@H schedulers were up, you'd see the
> "You are using blah blah, and you need blah, blah" message. :)
>
> <a> href="http://www.boinc.dk/index.php?page=user_statistics&project=sah&userid=91863">
>

> Can you not read?

Why yes, yes I can...

Your topic "Climate and SETI together... At Last" implies that the projects are in sync. They are not.

> "with the SETI schedulers down..."
>
> simple put... You can attatch but get no work. If all goes according to
> plan, and since when has anything SETI gone according to plan, we'll start
> getting WU's.

My point is that even if the schedulers weren't down, you could still attach, so your logs prove nothing of consequence. I've been running CPDN for over two weeks with 4.xx and have been attached to 4 other projects not compatible with 4.xx the whole time.

So "together... At last" is a bit of a moot statement.

Or was your post more of a "I've finally attached to both projects" type deal? I took it to mean you made some great discovery.

Thanks Pete,

It's looking promising. I've been sort of eye balling the CPDN project.

> It's looking promising. I've been sort of eye balling the CPDN project.

I say go for it StokeyBob. It's great piece of mind to download a WU that will keep you in work for a few weeks. :)

Heffed,
You seem to be pretty well up on Boinc projects and, as I have stated before I am still very much in the learning process, so I would like to ask you the following; I downloaded Climate Prediction on one of my boxes, and since I had no Seti to crunch I did not bother to set how I wanted to break down the projects so they would both work together starting tomorrow. Can you please tell me where I find the spot where I divide up priority. I thought it would be in Preferences, and I looked but could have very easily overlooked it. Also can you please tell me if I just "Attach" my seti program to the already running Climate prediction for them both to run together. I apologize I posted this on another thread before I saw this one. I just want to be able to run as many programs as I can without sacrificing resources to either one.
Thank You Very Much In Advance. :-)

Warm Regards,

Rocky

Also: Is climate Prediction the same thing everyone is calling "Predictor"
Thanks

@ MLCudd.

To set your resource shares, go to your account page for each project. Under "preferences", there are two links. A link to general preferences, and project specific preferences.

The general prefs are the settings that migrate from project to project, such as cache size.

The project preferences are where you need to go to set your resource share. Click on the "view/edit" link, then the "edit preferences" link. Set your resource share, (should be the top field) and update the preferences.

Then in order to make these "stick", you need to also update the project inside the GUI. (click the "projects" tab, the right click on the project and select "update") Repeat the process for any project you want to change.

Yes, all you need to do if you are already running CPDN, is attach to S@H using the URL and account log in you recieved from S@H.

And no, "Predictor" is Predictor@Home by Scripps. You can find more info here. Keep in mind though, that Predictor is currently incompatible with 4.xx, but should be switching in a few days. (they had originally planned September, but revised that in order to stay in sync) Also, account creation is currently suspended at P@H.

in what order should the project preferences: eg seti 100 Predictor 200 would this make seti first or second?

Heffed,

Thank you so much for you quick response. I appreciate the info, and I am sure I will be looking to you for help or advice again in the future.

Warm Regards,

Rocky

@ Barry

> in what order should the project preferences: eg seti 100 Predictor 200 would
> this make seti first or second?

The larger the number, the higher the precedence. So your example would put S@H second in CPU time.

@ MLCudd

> Thank you so much for you quick response. I appreciate the info, and I am sure
> I will be looking to you for help or advice again in the future.

No problem at all. Glad to help. And by all means, ask away! :)

Thanks Heffed I have always had this with the smaller one being the first for cpu time.

Specifically, the numbers will give a ratio of CPU time to be dedicated to each project.

In the 100/200 example, Predictor would get 1/3 (100 out of 300 total) of the CPU time, and SETI would get 2/3. If you signed up for ClimatePrediction as well, and specified it should have a resource share of 50, the numbers would change to...

Predictor: 100 / (100+200+50) = ~28%
SETI: 200 / (100+200+50) = ~57%
ClimatePrediction: 50 / (100+200+50) = ~14%



It gets really weird when you attach machines to only some projects. The resources devoted to each project depend on what that particular machine has been attachd to. So, using the same 100/200/50 example, let's see what happens when we have two computers attached to differing projects... Computer 1 will be running Predictor/SETI, and the other ClimatePrediction/SETI.

Computer 1
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Predictor: 100 / (100+200) = ~33%
SETI: 200 / (100+200) = ~66%

Computer 2
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SETI: 200 / (200+50) = 80%
ClimatePrediction: 50 / (200+50) = 20%

I hope it makes sense... It's very confusing, and a very weird way to split up CPU time, but that's how the system is right now.

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> In the 100/200 example, Predictor would get 1/3 (100 out of 300 total) of the
> CPU time, and SETI would get 2/3.

Except in his example he had S@H at 100, and P@H at 200. ;-)

But yes, thanks for a more verbose example. :-)