> Marc, who told you to download v.4.xx from CPDN? I couldn't see any official
> statement on Berkeley's site. I couldn't find it on the CPDN's one either.

Nobody told him. That's the point I was trying to make in a post I just made to this thread.

You can't fault Berkeley for not pointing users to an .exe on another projects web site that isn't currently compatible with the public S@H project. People are simply jumping the gun and getting mad at Berkeley for the inconvenience they had to suffer in doing the jumping.

I think it's best for people to just calm down. When the project is ready for it, the new .exe will be downloadable from this site.

So this will mean that I can upgrade Sunday morning?
It is 11:15am Saturday in NZ at the moment.

B.Rumsey

Ok, so meanwhile, I've put my cache down to 0 days to 0 days, but it keeps downloading Predictor WU's once it gets to zero and theres nothing left to crunch... I want my cache empty so I can run classic until vers 4.x is out, but it keeps downloading more work. *frustration* My general preferences and preferences for home and work are set to keep enough work for zero days to zero days. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?

the Update will done, when the little Problems are solved...

original post

We are currently experiencing a hardware issue with our scheduling server, we expect this issues resolved within the hour

one Hour, ...

nothing knew, that little problems are going to Great Problems.

hope all is going good, and i get tomorrow new WUs.

but this is quite a good Joke

Anybody who has any remaining results to report should get them in before the upgrade,..

lol... my P4 3.2 has still 18 Results that has gone to the Server, but

SETI@home - 2004-08-28 01:17:47 - Temporarily failed upload of 21se03ab.25795.5632.203404.224_5_0
SETI@home - 2004-08-28 01:17:47 - Backing off 1 minutes and 13 seconds on transfer of file 21se03ab.25795.5632.203404.224_5_0


that is this for this


Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli [/url]

> > Marc, who told you to download v.4.xx from CPDN? I couldn't see any
> official
> > statement on Berkeley's site. I couldn't find it on the CPDN's one
> either.
>
> Nobody told him. That's the point I was trying to make in a post I just made
> to this thread.
>
> You can't fault Berkeley for not pointing users to an .exe on another projects
> web site that isn't currently compatible with the public S@H project. People
> are simply jumping the gun and getting mad at Berkeley for the inconvenience
> they had to suffer in doing the jumping.
>
> I think it's best for people to just calm down. When the project is ready for
> it, the new .exe will be downloadable from this site.

Right on :-)


S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member

> Ok, so meanwhile, I've put my cache down to 0 days to 0 days, but it keeps
> downloading Predictor WU's once it gets to zero and theres nothing left to
> crunch... I want my cache empty so I can run classic until vers 4.x is out,
> but it keeps downloading more work. *frustration* My general preferences and
> preferences for home and work are set to keep enough work for zero days to
> zero days. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?

The only way to make sure you're currently not downloading more work, is to increase the disk-limits so "Leave at least" # GB is bigger than your free disk space.

Note, since it's not always using the correct venue, remember to upgrade default + all others you're using.

Speaking as someone who writes software professionally....

We're all optimists. We always think things will be easier than they really are.

That's a good thing, because if our estimates were realistic, we'd probably take one look at the size of the task and run like hell.

So, here is the rule:

Whenever someone in the computer industry tells you how long something will take, double the number and go to the next higher unit.

So, we take one hour, double that, we take "hours" and go to the next higher unit which is days -- and that's when you should expect it to happen.

... and if someone says "we're wasting power!" that's simple: turn the machine off. We'll all still be here when you get back.

>
>
>August 27, 2004
>The upgrade to 4.x will start around 11am PDT and will take roughly an hour.
>
>

Somehow I think that we may have missed this time line. :-)

Just hanging out being patient and IDLE.

Somehow I think that we may have missed this time line. :-)

you are not the only man, i think. and waiting waiting, and ...

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> Ok, so meanwhile, I've put my cache down to 0 days to 0 days, but it keeps
> downloading Predictor WU's once it gets to zero and theres nothing left to
> crunch... I want my cache empty so I can run classic until vers 4.x is out,
> but it keeps downloading more work. *frustration* My general preferences and
> preferences for home and work are set to keep enough work for zero days to
> zero days. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
>
I don't see where anyone has answered you, but I think you have to change your settings to 0 days/0 days on each project (aka Seti & Predictor).

> Speaking as someone who writes software professionally....
>
> We're all optimists. We always think things will be easier than they really
> are.
>
> That's a good thing, because if our estimates were realistic, we'd probably
> take one look at the size of the task and run like hell.

hell, not even 6 months has past since I last underestimated the timescale on a project ;-) And I definately would have run like hell if I hadn't :-D


S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member

> I don't see where anyone has answered you, probably because it's off topic and
> this isn't a support forum, but I think you have to change your settings to 0
> days/0 days on each project (aka Seti & Predictor).

can't be done - those settings are under "General" and should function for boinc/all projects


S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member

So, basically, you haven't started any new projects in the past six months? (ducking)

Just double the number and go to the next higher unit....

> hell, not even 6 months has past since I last underestimated the timescale on
> a project ;-) And I definately would have run like hell if I hadn't :-D

> So, basically, you haven't started any new projects in the past six months?
> (ducking)

actually no *lol* had to finish that one and then *ahhh* summer vacation ;-)

ahh, well, I'll propably never become a pro anyway ;-)


S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member

> > Marc, who told you to download v.4.xx from CPDN? I couldn't see any
> official
> > statement on Berkeley's site. I couldn't find it on the CPDN's one
> either.
>
> Nobody told him. That's the point I was trying to make in a post I just made
> to this thread.
>
> You can't fault Berkeley for not pointing users to an .exe on another projects
> web site that isn't currently compatible with the public S@H project. People
> are simply jumping the gun and getting mad at Berkeley for the inconvenience
> they had to suffer in doing the jumping.
>
> I think it's best for people to just calm down. When the project is ready for
> it, the new .exe will be downloadable from this site.
>
Exactly what I meant

Thanks for your help guys :) Setting to zero/zero did nothing, but setting the "Leave at least" to 200Gb stopped new WU's from downloading. It's still trying to download, but here's what I get...

--- - 2004-08-28 10:06:45 - Fewer active results than CPUs; requesting more work
Predictor@home - 2004-08-28 10:06:45 - Requesting 1 seconds of work
Predictor@home - 2004-08-28 10:06:45 - Sending request to scheduler: http://predictor.scripps.edu/predictor_cgi/cgi
Predictor@home - 2004-08-28 10:06:48 - Scheduler RPC to http://predictor.scripps.edu/predictor_cgi/cgi succeeded
Predictor@home - 2004-08-28 10:06:48 - Message from server: No work available (there was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated)
Predictor@home - 2004-08-28 10:06:48 - No work from project
Predictor@home - 2004-08-28 10:06:48 - Deferring communication with project for 1 hours, 0 minutes, and 0 seconds



Any my cache is empty, so its SETI Classic for me until v4.x is released :)

(and I dont mind if I have to wait, they wouldnt make us wait without a good reason).

The latest message:
SETI@home - 2004-08-28 02:45:25 - Message from server: To participate in this project, you must use major version 3 of the BOINC core client. Your core client is major version 4.
SETI@home - 2004-08-28 02:45:26 - Resetting project
SETI@home - 2004-08-28 02:45:26 - Detaching from project

:D

The schedulers are back up for 3.xx
Upload now.


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Jordâ„¢

> The latest message:
> SETI@home - 2004-08-28 02:45:25 - Message from server: To participate in this
> project, you must use major version 3 of the BOINC core client. Your core
> client is major version 4.
> SETI@home - 2004-08-28 02:45:26 - Resetting project
> SETI@home - 2004-08-28 02:45:26 - Detaching from project

Jord, but can we download anything for 3.20?

Doubtful. I wouldn't try it, xi3.

It may just be a fluke on Seti's part or a way to allow you to upload your last 3.xx units & report them now. :)
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Jordâ„¢

one of my computers running v3.20 just tried to get some work units from S@H... it came up with a bunch of 'file not found' errors.

2004-08-27 19:50:41 [---] Fewer active results than CPUs; requesting more work
2004-08-27 19:50:41 [SETI@home] Requesting 162435 seconds of work
2004-08-27 19:50:41 [SETI@home] Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
2004-08-27 19:50:50 [SETI@home] Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
2004-08-27 19:50:51 [SETI@home] Started download of 25ap04aa.23553.10594.317312.104
2004-08-27 19:50:51 [SETI@home] Started download of 25ap04aa.23553.10594.317312.105
2004-08-27 19:50:52 [SETI@home] Temporarily failed download of 25ap04aa.23553.10594.317312.104
2004-08-27 19:50:52 [SETI@home] Giving up on download of 25ap04aa.23553.10594.317312.104: file was not found on server
2004-08-27 19:50:52 [SETI@home] Unrecoverable error for result 25ap04aa.23553.10594.317312.104_0 (file transfer error: couldn't get input files:
25ap04aa.23553.10594.317312.104: file was not found on server
)
2004-08-27 19:50:52 [SETI@home] Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds

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