When googling I see this mentioned a cpl of times, but when I go to those pages (or try to use the googlecache) I either just see the question or it not being mentioned at all; so...

Is there some work being done to take advantage of Apples Xgrid?

I know that Xgrid wouldn't be a groundbreaking improvement for BOINC/Seti@home, but, hey, it's there and I want a reason for using it... :)

Both BOINC and Seti are Open Source software. If you want a special OS to use it, you can port it over yourself.

But otherwise, the developers themselves only make it for the most favourite OSes out there. Read more about porting and optimization here, or ask Team MacNN about it.

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Both BOINC and Seti are Open Source software. If you want a special OS to use it, you can port it over yourself.

But otherwise, the developers themselves only make it for the most favourite OSes out there. Read more about porting and optimization here, or ask Team MacNN about it.

1. Xgrid isn't an OS.

2. Saying that something is open source doesn't help much since:
a. Most people asking about a new feature don't know enough to be able to rewrite the source themselfs.
b. Most people asking about a new feature which are able to add it themselfs already know that they can do it themselfs, but asks to learn if others are working on it.
c. Saying that software is open source doesn't say anything about if the license allows people to actually rewrite some of the code.

3. Xgrid isn't an OS.

Yes, it's worth repeating that last fact, because I don't really understand why you're replying if you don't understand the question...

Xgrid is a solution for distributed computing; if BOINC was Xgrid-capable I could, simplified, just run seti@home on one computer, which would take advantage of the computing power of the rest of my Macs at home.

Yes, I could run seti@home on every Mac at home, and yes it would work fine; but it would be a lot easier if I could just set up Xgrid on new computers and control it all from a single computer. Like I said, it wouldn't be a huge benefit for BOINC, but it would be a helpful feature.

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My understanding (which I admit is still vague) is that Xgrid is a clustering software to do parallel processing specifically on OS X networks. Boinc does not support it, and as I see it, is highly unlikely to be considered. It would require a complete rewrite of Boinc and each project client to accommodate the very specific needs of an extremely small subset of the Mac community. I can't see any real benefit to the Boinc community. This form of distributed computing has been done before and is more in tune with the needs of in-house projects.

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My understanding (which I admit is still vague) is that Xgrid is a clustering software to do parallel processing specifically on OS X networks. Boinc does not support it, and as I see it, is highly unlikely to be considered. It would require a complete rewrite of Boinc and each project client to accommodate the very specific needs of an extremely small subset of the Mac community. I can't see any real benefit to the Boinc community. This form of distributed computing has been done before and is more in tune with the needs of in-house projects.

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/xgrid.html

I haven't really used Xgrid much, but it isn't that hard to work with; and instead of a complete rewrite of BOINC you should be able to just basically wrap something around it in such a way that the controller is the one handing out work to the agents (instead of them getting it directly from the SETI@home servers).

Basically each agent in ones network would think that it hasn't got network access, and would just work with the data it has available; if the controller notices that an agent can't provide enough time to get a job completed before its deadline it just moves the data to another agent with enough time/power.

Actually, I just realized that this isn't that hard to do without Xgrid. =D

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My understanding (which I admit is still vague) is that Xgrid is a clustering software to do parallel processing specifically on OS X networks. Boinc does not support it, and as I see it, is highly unlikely to be considered. It would require a complete rewrite of Boinc and each project client to accommodate the very specific needs of an extremely small subset of the Mac community. I can't see any real benefit to the Boinc community. This form of distributed computing has been done before and is more in tune with the needs of in-house projects.

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/xgrid.html

I haven't really used Xgrid much, but it isn't that hard to work with; and instead of a complete rewrite of BOINC you should be able to just basically wrap something around it in such a way that the controller is the one handing out work to the agents (instead of them getting it directly from the SETI@home servers).

Basically each agent in ones network would think that it hasn't got network access, and would just work with the data it has available; if the controller notices that an agent can't provide enough time to get a job completed before its deadline it just moves the data to another agent with enough time/power.

Actually, I just realized that this isn't that hard to do without Xgrid. =D

When googling I see this mentioned a cpl of times, but when I go to those pages (or try to use the googlecache) I either just see the question or it not being mentioned at all; so...

Is there some work being done to take advantage of Apples Xgrid?

I know that Xgrid wouldn't be a groundbreaking improvement for BOINC/Seti@home, but, hey, it's there and I want a reason for using it... :)

LOOK, IF THE BOINC PROGRAMMERS CANT EVEN GET SMP WORKING ON BOINC, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY CAN DO THIS? THIS PROJECT IS EITHER UNDERFUNDED, OR THE DESIGN TEAM IS LACKING IN SKILL. SINCE I THINK THESE GUYS ARE ATTENDING ONE OF THE BEST ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS, I AM SURE THEY NEED MORE FUNDING TO JUSTIFY THE TIME. SO MY SOLUTION, IS IF YOU WANT THESE TYPE OF FEATURES, DONATE TO A PROGRAM THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY CREATE SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGHS AND BE PART OF THE SOLUTION AND STOP COMPLAINING.

When googling I see this mentioned a cpl of times, but when I go to those pages (or try to use the googlecache) I either just see the question or it not being mentioned at all; so...

Is there some work being done to take advantage of Apples Xgrid?

I know that Xgrid wouldn't be a groundbreaking improvement for BOINC/Seti@home, but, hey, it's there and I want a reason for using it... :)

LOOK, IF THE BOINC PROGRAMMERS CANT EVEN GET SMP WORKING ON BOINC, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY CAN DO THIS? THIS PROJECT IS EITHER UNDERFUNDED, OR THE DESIGN TEAM IS LACKING IN SKILL. SINCE I THINK THESE GUYS ARE ATTENDING ONE OF THE BEST ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS, I AM SURE THEY NEED MORE FUNDING TO JUSTIFY THE TIME. SO MY SOLUTION, IS IF YOU WANT THESE TYPE OF FEATURES, DONATE TO A PROGRAM THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY CREATE SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGHS AND BE PART OF THE SOLUTION AND STOP COMPLAINING.

This is a year old thread that has been raked up.