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Message 15552 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:05:40 UTC
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From August 19, 2004 News:

"The database has been restored and is being checked now. You may notice that message board posts made in the past week are now missing - this is because we had to fall back to an earlier copy of the database. Sorry for the inconvenience."

Have we also lost all the results returned last week? We ask this question because we know the message board tables are stored in the database together with all the other BOINC tables like users, results details etc. What about team, user and host details changed during last week?

You have restored an old copy of the database that is fine, but are you now going to roll forward to the latest point in time just before the RAID failure?



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Message 15562 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:35:36 UTC

For some reason they don't like to talk about that, do they! LOL! But saying some messages will be missing is OK.

I wonder how much time is spent working on a creating a statement that doesn't sound too bad instead of just being "up front" and saying it the way it is?
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Message 15564 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:37:40 UTC - in response to Message 15552.  

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> You have restored an old copy of the database that is fine, but are you now
> going to roll forward to the latest point in time just before the RAID
> failure?
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I have very little hopes to see some credits for the work we've done
in the past month.
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Message 15570 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:48:22 UTC
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Does anyone out there know the meaning of F.U.B.A.R.? Can F.U.B.A.R. be fixed?
This reminds me of the beginning of the millenium, their were some nuts out there waiting for the Messiah to return. Patience, patience...
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Message 15571 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:51:02 UTC
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Are you being serious re F.U.B.A.R???

I will let you guess the first word but the rest is .... Up Beyond All Recognition.

My first post and already I'm blushing :-S


Me too Petit! Very doubtful that what I have crunched over the past 4 weeks will be credited.
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Message 15572 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:51:21 UTC - in response to Message 15570.  
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> Does anyone out there know the meaning of F.U.B.A.R.? Can F.U.B.A.R. be
> fixed?
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Interesting - the first result in Google for F.U.B.A.R. was: "fubar - omg masturbatory heaven". Somebody need the link?
lol
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Message 15573 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:52:36 UTC

From whatis.com:

FUBAR

FUBAR is an acronym that originated in the military to stand for the words "f***ed up beyond all repair." This is often softened to "fouled up beyond all repair" in reference to hardware. The programming and documentation equivalent is "fouled up beyond all recognition." Sometimes the last word is "recovery" or "reconciliation" or "reason."

In a Virtual Address Extension (VAX), the acronym FUBAR has been adapted to refer to the words "failed UniBus address register." Some programmers apparently managed to sneak this by humorless higher-ups, and the term stuck.

F.U.B.A.R. International is the name of a film company founded in 1989 by several businessmen seeking adventure. They went on location to film natural disasters. Some of the disasters were artificially created, especially avalanches, which could be triggered by explosives. Company executives vacation in Vail, Colorado every year, and have become local celebrities. These days, F.U.B.A.R. International markets clothing and novelty items.
Giskard - the first telepathic robot.
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Message 15574 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:53:27 UTC - in response to Message 15552.  

Perhaps you need to read this thread.
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Message 15575 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:57:37 UTC - in response to Message 15572.  

> > Does anyone out there know the meaning of F.U.B.A.R.? Can F.U.B.A.R. be
> > fixed?
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> Interesting - the first result in Google for F.U.B.A.R. was: "fubar - omg
> masturbatory heaven". Somebody need the link?
> lol
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ROTFLMFAO
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Message 15577 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 21:59:20 UTC

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M'Lords, the prosecution rests.
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Message 15578 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 22:02:32 UTC

I think a better acronym for what's been going on lately is SNAFU: "Situation Normal, All F**ked Up."

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Message 15581 - Posted: 19 Aug 2004, 22:04:21 UTC

FUBAR and SNAFU go hand in hand, the former is the situation and the latter is the cause.
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Message 15683 - Posted: 20 Aug 2004, 3:07:39 UTC

Now that Berkeley has confirmed that we have indeed lost more w/u and results data I have posted this new thread:

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2840

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Message 15696 - Posted: 20 Aug 2004, 3:40:50 UTC

Basically there is no point to stay with Boinc project anymore.... something fails almost every day... credits are not calculated... WU's are lost left and right.... I'm going back to Seti classic... :( .... I'll check back in couple of weeks.. hopefully everything will run better...

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Message 15712 - Posted: 20 Aug 2004, 4:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 15571.  

> Are you being serious re F.U.B.A.R???
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> I will let you guess the first word but the rest is .... Up Beyond All
> Recognition.
>
> My first post and already I'm blushing :-S
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> Me too Petit! Very doubtful that what I have crunched over the past 4 weeks
> will be credited.
>
>

Close but no guitar. The acronym started in the military and the original last word was FUBARepair... which doesn't even come close to the constant state of FUBAR-ness that SETI@Home suffers from. Hey, Admins. One word. can you say XServe? Dump the piece of crap servers you bought from some VAR that's laughing his ass off and get a real server that actually runs UNIX better than any of the so-called experts will admit to.

I can't remember the last time I DIDN'T get a "Defering Communication" or - when I'm lucky - "No Work Units" message. What is this app supposed to do again?......

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Message 15726 - Posted: 20 Aug 2004, 5:30:30 UTC
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Since Sun Microsystems is one of their (Seti) commerical sponsors, under contract they have to use Sun servers. They don't have much in the budget for hardware so they have to begger the sponsor for more equipment.
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Message 15728 - Posted: 20 Aug 2004, 5:37:15 UTC - in response to Message 15726.  
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> Since Sun Microsystems is one of their commerical sponsors, under contract
> they have to use Sun servers. They don't have much in the budget for hardware
> so they have to beg the sponsor for more equipment.
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Uh,, SNAP is not a SUN company.. Seems they got HW there! (it's a part of Adaptec, last I heard)

(and BTW, SUN is all caps - it's an acronym - Stanford University Network) Just a bit of trivia that the Cheerleaders will dispute, for sure, but if they've ever seen a SUN box, they'd notice that SUN is always caps!
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