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We can't be sure because we don't know if Carsten is guilty of writing a trojan, or guilty of not being careful with his account keys. It wouldn't be that much harder to write a trojan to collect account keys. ____________ | |
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The part that is questionable to me would be; why would someone go to the trouble of writing a trojan that has a Seti payload and give credit to someone other than his/herself? Of course Casrston knows what went on...and he may not have even wrote it, but he dang sure was in on it... ____________ http://www.mikesbawx.org/photo/ | |
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think about following thought: | |
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think about following thought: I tend to agree, a virus writer could of just done it to cause mayhem within SETI if that was the intention then it worked just look at this post. Everyone has jumped to the conclusion it was written to increase credits when it could so easily of been something to start up a heated debate ____________ Join us in Chat (see the forum) Click the Sig Join UBT | |
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The part that is questionable to me would be; why would someone go to the trouble of writing a trojan that has a Seti payload and give credit to someone other than his/herself? To make that person or team look like a cheater? Or perhaps a misguided attempt to do a favour? Or just to raise doubt and stir up controversy about the credit system in general, maybe picking high-ranking crunchers at random? I don't claim any insight into the motivations of people who would do this kind of thing, but your question rests on the assumption that they would want or value cobblestones more than any other form of gratification the exploit may give them. ____________ | |
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Maybe he developed some sort of software, like to calculate your cat's correct weight and stuck something in the end user license agreement that you agree to run SETI for him. | |
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think about following thought: Or maybe he's just interested in the Science, and doesn't care about credits. ____________ | |
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i am pretty sure that someone would like to discredit high RAC users.....that could be the intention to write such a worm. Every experienced user of BOINC would know that the increase in total credits and RAC would be too obvious. | |
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It could even be a simple case of someone willing to "reward" others for setting up systems to crunch for their account or team. And the "rewards" were enough to entice a virus writer. | |
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The smart thing about this whole sceme is having affected only those who where to ignorant to find out and finding there way to this forum. ;-) LOL | |
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My 2 here | |
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One way to keep an eye on those that want to cheat or have their system taken over is for SETI to do away with the "Hide Computers" option. Making all computer available for viewing would allow problems to be seen before they get out of hand like this one. I've never understood why people want to hide their computers. No information other than the type of system, OS and WU's are available. | |
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One way to keep an eye on those that want to cheat or have their system taken over is for SETI to do away with the "Hide Computers" option. Making all computer available for viewing would allow problems to be seen before they get out of hand like this one. I've never understood why people want to hide their computers. No information other than the type of system, OS and WU's areI applaud this proposal. For the more paranoid, I'd allow hiding the OS version, but that's about all. There is indeed no reason to hide the hosts, unless you cheat in some way or install BOINC illegally on computers without permission. ____________ trux BOINC software Freediving Team Czech Republic | |
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One way to keep an eye on those that want to cheat or have their system taken over is for SETI to do away with the "Hide Computers" option. Making all computer available for viewing would allow problems to be seen before they get out of hand like this one. I've never understood why people want to hide their computers. No information other than the type of system, OS and WU's areI applaud this proposal. For the more paranoid, I'd allow hiding the OS version, but that's about all. There is indeed no reason to hide the hosts, unless you cheat in some way or install BOINC illegally on computers without permission. I don't even think you need to hide the OS version. If I don't know the IP of your machine, knowing what OS you have is moot. ____________ http://www.mikesbawx.org/photo/ | |
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I don't even think you need to hide the OS version. If I don't know the IP of your machine, knowing what OS you have is moot.Sure, I do not argue that. I am telling it should be the maximum to be allowed to hide - some people may be for example ashamed to be using Windows although claiming to be Unix gurus never touching a Windows box ;) ____________ trux BOINC software Freediving Team Czech Republic | |
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I don't even think you need to hide the OS version. If I don't know the IP of your machine, knowing what OS you have is moot.Sure, I do not argue that. I am telling it should be the maximum to be allowed to hide - some people may be for example ashamed to be using Windows although claiming to be Unix gurus never touching a Windows box ;) That's true. Although, my farm includes my wifes and sons computer...they run windows...my 3 machines are linux. I suspect alot of folks would do just what you say. ____________ http://www.mikesbawx.org/photo/ | |
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How would un-hiding someone’s computers help in telling if they are up to something fishy? If Carsten’s machines were not hidden it would have only shown him adding more systems to his ID, correct? No real information available to show who the machines actually belonged to. | |
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How would un-hiding someone’s computers help in telling if they are up to something fishy? If Carsten’s machines were not hidden it would have only shown him adding more systems to his ID, correct? No real information available to show who the machines actually belonged to. I think the point was used to better help identify someone who may not be doing things on the up and up. If someone was running over say, 300,000 RAC, and we look and we see that user has 2000 machines, I would say that account would be suspect...duh? ____________ http://www.mikesbawx.org/photo/ | |
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There may be another victim that may need to be looked at posted on the BOINC core client Board | |
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I applaud this proposal. For the more paranoid, I'd allow hiding the OS version, but that's about all. There is indeed no reason to hide the hosts, unless you cheat in some way or install BOINC illegally on computers without permission. I am very disppointed to see this kind of remark. To make this kind of generalization is not very responsible. If an issue or irregularity occurs w/a user's account, the staff @ Berkeley can easily review the account's hosts, OS, etc. It is not our responsibility to monitor user's accounts..(we are contributing to science, right?!?!) The purpose of "hidden" hosts is meant for privacy. If a user wishes not to share this kind of information with the public, they should be entitled to this choice. The issues in this thread have become clouded, and "hidden" computers has nothing to do with a potential Boinc trojan/worm. ____________ | |
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