Lets all hope and pray that the outcome of the 13 Miners in West Virginia is a good outcome. Lets hope they all of them are alright and get out of this alive.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

Amen!

Sally

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i feel pretty close to this thread. the mine is not to far from where i live, i have cousins who are miners in wva (mom born in wva). and the company who owns the mine in question has its home base here in my home town ashland, ky.

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i feel pretty close to this thread. the mine is not to far from where i live, i have cousins who are miners in wva (mom born in wva). and the company who owns the mine in question has its home base here in my home town ashland, ky.

I am sorry :( I really do hope all turns out for the best

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

Sadly not looking too good. The found a body. Grant those poor families strength.

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Absinthium cor laetificat.

LIVE NOW. 12 miners alive!!!

MSNBC

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LIVE NOW. 12 miners alive!!!

Ya hOOOOOOO!~!

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Unfortunately the latest news says only one survivor who is critically ill.

The families those hopes were raised and then destoryed must be devastated.

Unfortunately the latest news says only one survivor who is critically ill.

The families those hopes were raised and then destoryed must be devastated.

How in hell could they make such a mistake...

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miscommunication is a terrible thing.

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Absinthium cor laetificat.

I was wondering about that during the live events. They said that no ne had seen them yet and basically that no one knew anything but they were alive. That is a classic faux pas in the industry and it's quite damaging to the hopeful. Anyways, it's a sad moment.

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It such a shame. 12 of the 13 miners have died. only one made it out alive. My hearts and prayers go out to the families who lost their love ones. This is a true tragedy.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

this is a very sad event...made even sadder by the false reports that twelve of the miners had survived...in a situation like that...it was not good to claim that they were safe...until the last man was brought out of the mine.

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this is a very sad event...made even sadder by the false reports that twelve of the miners had survived...in a situation like that...it was not good to claim that they were safe...until the last man was brought out of the mine.

I agree. I have seen the video when the rumor go to the church...realy and truely sad. what a shame :(

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

My next question about the Miners: Who is to blame for the mistake of starting the rumor that they were alive? If the Media state why.

I think the media is to blame. Nearly every major Press outlet in the world was in WV and almost not a single one could get it right. I was appalled when My morning paper here in Buffalo NY said that they were alive. How could the organization (the media) that we are supposed to rely on for "fair and balanced" news screw up so bad? I encourage ALL opinions.

Do you think we will ever know "what really happened" in the Mine?

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

It could have been a comment over the rescuers radio that said "we found them" or remarked on one "he's alive". Then the media listening on their walkie talkies took this to town and it spread like wild fire. I'd be apt to blame the media. They should have not been reporting them alive when they obviously had no evidence.

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It could have been a comment over the rescuers radio that said "we found them" or remarked on one "he's alive". Then the media listening on their walkie talkies took this to town and it spread like wild fire. I'd be apt to blame the media. They should have not been reporting them alive when they obviously had no evidence.

Rescuers wearing full-face oxygen masks said something that bystanders interpreted as 12 survivors (or only one death). The company or the scene rescue commander should have corrected this as soon as the mistake was discovered.

It appears that one miner died in the blast and 12 survived to go elsewhere in the mine to try to wait for rescue (11 of those miners later died of carbon monoxide poisoning). I can see someone mis-understanding that initial communication, but not the whole chain of events that came afterwards.

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I can see someone mis-understanding that initial communication, but not the whole chain of events that came afterwards.

Exactly.... the fact that the 'miscommunication' was detected and corrected within 30 minutes after it was made, but the announcement to the families, media, and all outside the command center that the initial info was incorrect took nearly 3 hours is inexcusable.

The contention that "we didn't officially make any announcements or statements to begin with so it wasn't up to us to correct or update them" just doesn't fly.

I can see someone mis-understanding that initial communication, but not the whole chain of events that came afterwards.

Exactly.... the fact that the 'miscommunication' was detected and corrected within 30 minutes after it was made, but the announcement to the families, media, and all outside the command center that the initial info was incorrect took nearly 3 hours is inexcusable.
The contention that "we didn't officially make any announcements or statements to begin with so it wasn't up to us to correct or update them" just doesn't fly.

Having been a firefighter for 24 years, I can say that when people get news they hang on to it tenaciously! To then come back and tell them "no wait it may be a mistake", I think would be worse. Once the mistake was made, there is no way to unwind that clock. The next statement had better be the whole truth and nothing but or you would have had a riot! Can you just imagine if the Company had said wait there may not be 12 alive, and then have to come back later on and say well guess what there are 12 alive after all. The roller coaster of emotions for the families would have been intolerable!
The ORIGINAL statement was WRONG! To then try and undo it would have made the situation MUCH worse. I think they did the only thing possible after the mistake was made, get the absolute facts and then tell them.
That is why Public Information Officials(PIO's) tend to be vague and very generic until they have ABSOLUTE facts that they can give. Yes there was a fire, no we don't know how it started, there were x number of alarms, we are still checking on the extent of the injuries, no we don't know how many people were injured, etc.
According to some accounts the WV GOVERNOR told some people that there were 12 ALIVE survivors. News people tend to take words from elected officials as gospel, expecially when they are assuming that he got it from the Company.

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