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Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
Lets all hope and pray that the outcome of the 13 Miners in West Virginia is a good outcome. Lets hope they all of them are alright and get out of this alive. "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
Sally Send message Joined: 1 Feb 03 Posts: 1 Credit: 76,410 RAC: 0 |
Amen! Sally |
Dorphas Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 118 Credit: 8,007,247 RAC: 0 |
i feel pretty close to this thread. the mine is not to far from where i live, i have cousins who are miners in wva (mom born in wva). and the company who owns the mine in question has its home base here in my home town ashland, ky. |
Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
i feel pretty close to this thread. the mine is not to far from where i live, i have cousins who are miners in wva (mom born in wva). and the company who owns the mine in question has its home base here in my home town ashland, ky. I am sorry :( I really do hope all turns out for the best "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
Morgan Buchanan Send message Joined: 11 Apr 01 Posts: 5 Credit: 46,072 RAC: 0 |
Sadly not looking too good. The found a body. Grant those poor families strength. Absinthium cor laetificat. |
Sleestak Send message Joined: 22 Jun 01 Posts: 779 Credit: 857,664 RAC: 0 |
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Sleestak Send message Joined: 22 Jun 01 Posts: 779 Credit: 857,664 RAC: 0 |
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Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
LIVE NOW. 12 miners alive!!! Ya hOOOOOOO!~! |
David@home Send message Joined: 16 Jan 03 Posts: 755 Credit: 5,040,916 RAC: 28 |
Unfortunately the latest news says only one survivor who is critically ill. The families those hopes were raised and then destoryed must be devastated. |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
Unfortunately the latest news says only one survivor who is critically ill. How in hell could they make such a mistake... |
Morgan Buchanan Send message Joined: 11 Apr 01 Posts: 5 Credit: 46,072 RAC: 0 |
miscommunication is a terrible thing. Absinthium cor laetificat. |
Sleestak Send message Joined: 22 Jun 01 Posts: 779 Credit: 857,664 RAC: 0 |
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Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
It such a shame. 12 of the 13 miners have died. only one made it out alive. My hearts and prayers go out to the families who lost their love ones. This is a true tragedy. "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
Daniel Michel Send message Joined: 2 Feb 04 Posts: 14925 Credit: 1,378,607 RAC: 6 |
this is a very sad event...made even sadder by the false reports that twelve of the miners had survived...in a situation like that...it was not good to claim that they were safe...until the last man was brought out of the mine. PROUD TO BE TFFE! |
Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
this is a very sad event...made even sadder by the false reports that twelve of the miners had survived...in a situation like that...it was not good to claim that they were safe...until the last man was brought out of the mine. I agree. I have seen the video when the rumor go to the church...realy and truely sad. what a shame :( "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
My next question about the Miners: Who is to blame for the mistake of starting the rumor that they were alive? If the Media state why. I think the media is to blame. Nearly every major Press outlet in the world was in WV and almost not a single one could get it right. I was appalled when My morning paper here in Buffalo NY said that they were alive. How could the organization (the media) that we are supposed to rely on for "fair and balanced" news screw up so bad? I encourage ALL opinions. Do you think we will ever know "what really happened" in the Mine? "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
Sleestak Send message Joined: 22 Jun 01 Posts: 779 Credit: 857,664 RAC: 0 |
It could have been a comment over the rescuers radio that said "we found them" or remarked on one "he's alive". Then the media listening on their walkie talkies took this to town and it spread like wild fire. I'd be apt to blame the media. They should have not been reporting them alive when they obviously had no evidence. TEAM LL |
Octagon Send message Joined: 13 Jun 05 Posts: 1418 Credit: 5,250,988 RAC: 109 |
It could have been a comment over the rescuers radio that said "we found them" or remarked on one "he's alive". Then the media listening on their walkie talkies took this to town and it spread like wild fire. I'd be apt to blame the media. They should have not been reporting them alive when they obviously had no evidence. Rescuers wearing full-face oxygen masks said something that bystanders interpreted as 12 survivors (or only one death). The company or the scene rescue commander should have corrected this as soon as the mistake was discovered. It appears that one miner died in the blast and 12 survived to go elsewhere in the mine to try to wait for rescue (11 of those miners later died of carbon monoxide poisoning). I can see someone mis-understanding that initial communication, but not the whole chain of events that came afterwards. No animals were harmed in the making of the above post... much. |
Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
I can see someone mis-understanding that initial communication, but not the whole chain of events that came afterwards. Exactly.... the fact that the 'miscommunication' was detected and corrected within 30 minutes after it was made, but the announcement to the families, media, and all outside the command center that the initial info was incorrect took nearly 3 hours is inexcusable. The contention that "we didn't officially make any announcements or statements to begin with so it wasn't up to us to correct or update them" just doesn't fly. |
mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 |
I can see someone mis-understanding that initial communication, but not the whole chain of events that came afterwards. Having been a firefighter for 24 years, I can say that when people get news they hang on to it tenaciously! To then come back and tell them "no wait it may be a mistake", I think would be worse. Once the mistake was made, there is no way to unwind that clock. The next statement had better be the whole truth and nothing but or you would have had a riot! Can you just imagine if the Company had said wait there may not be 12 alive, and then have to come back later on and say well guess what there are 12 alive after all. The roller coaster of emotions for the families would have been intolerable! The ORIGINAL statement was WRONG! To then try and undo it would have made the situation MUCH worse. I think they did the only thing possible after the mistake was made, get the absolute facts and then tell them. That is why Public Information Officials(PIO's) tend to be vague and very generic until they have ABSOLUTE facts that they can give. Yes there was a fire, no we don't know how it started, there were x number of alarms, we are still checking on the extent of the injuries, no we don't know how many people were injured, etc. According to some accounts the WV GOVERNOR told some people that there were 12 ALIVE survivors. News people tend to take words from elected officials as gospel, expecially when they are assuming that he got it from the Company. |
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