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Message 218522 - Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 7:03:08 UTC

I am (almost) completely confused.

I "think" I have done the necessary steps to move my account from old Seti to new Seti, but I have no idea whether I am actually doing any searching...

Under the new system, is there an actual application like seti? The one that would "chirp data, etc. in the interesting and productive looking interface? I downloaded the BOINC manager, and have run it, but it seems to be more “manager” and less what Seti used to be.

I have tried to follow the Wiki but have not been able to ascertain what is, or isn’t working...

Thanks,

Michael M.
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Message 218564 - Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 8:49:46 UTC

Well, your _account_ is set up correctly, and your computer is attached to the project correctly... but you aren't _doing_ anything. Let's solve that first, then you'll be able to see the SETI graphics. :-)

If BOINC Manager is running, quit. Launch BOINC Manager. In the bottom right corner it should say (after a pause) "Connected to localhost". You'll see six tabs across the top. In "Projects", you should see SETI@home. In "Work", _normally_ you will see the name and deadline and status of whatever SETI result you are working on. For some reason, yours is blank right now. In "Transfers", you should normally see nothing at all, except for the few seconds when a file is being uploaded or downloaded. If you see anything there, please post and let us know what it is. I'll skip Messages for a second. In Statistics, you should see basically nothing until you've run for several days and have several results, then you'll see graphs of what you've done. In Disk you'll see how much space BOINC is taking up.

Under the "Commands" menu, you may have "Run" set to either Always or "based on preferences"; when debugging, I suggest putting it to "always". You may have Network Activity set to either choice (always/prefs) if you are always connected; if on dialup then you'll want to have that on suspended when you don't want BOINC to dial out. Again, "always" is good when debugging.

Go to the Messages tab. Because you just launched BOINC, there shouldn't be very many, but one or more of them _should_ be an error message telling you why you aren't doing any work. Most common is probably a complaint about disk space, because you changed the default preferences for that on the website. If so, go back to the website and give BOINC at least a couple of gigabytes, and say 50% of the %-based ones. You can tighten this down later, but only change _one_ of the disk space options at a time...

If the problem isn't solved by this point, copy all the messages from the Messages tab and paste them in here, and we'll see what we can find.

(Oh, besides the BOINCSaver screensaver - which I don't recommend - you can see the graphics by selecting the SETI result that is 'running' in the Work tab, and clicking on 'show graphics'. You can then search the Wiki for 'screensaver' and find out how to adjust it's appearance to make it look more like the Classic one if you prefer.)
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Message 219268 - Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 15:01:32 UTC - in response to Message 218564.  

Well, your _account_ is set up correctly, and your computer is attached to the project correctly... but you aren't _doing_ anything. Let's solve that first, then you'll be able to see the SETI graphics. :-)

If BOINC Manager is running, quit. Launch BOINC Manager. In the bottom right corner it should say (after a pause) "Connected to localhost". You'll see six tabs across the top. In "Projects", you should see SETI@home. In "Work", _normally_ you will see the name and deadline and status of whatever SETI result you are working on. For some reason, yours is blank right now. In "Transfers", you should normally see nothing at all, except for the few seconds when a file is being uploaded or downloaded. If you see anything there, please post and let us know what it is. I'll skip Messages for a second. In Statistics, you should see basically nothing until you've run for several days and have several results, then you'll see graphs of what you've done. In Disk you'll see how much space BOINC is taking up.

Under the "Commands" menu, you may have "Run" set to either Always or "based on preferences"; when debugging, I suggest putting it to "always". You may have Network Activity set to either choice (always/prefs) if you are always connected; if on dialup then you'll want to have that on suspended when you don't want BOINC to dial out. Again, "always" is good when debugging.

Go to the Messages tab. Because you just launched BOINC, there shouldn't be very many, but one or more of them _should_ be an error message telling you why you aren't doing any work. Most common is probably a complaint about disk space, because you changed the default preferences for that on the website. If so, go back to the website and give BOINC at least a couple of gigabytes, and say 50% of the %-based ones. You can tighten this down later, but only change _one_ of the disk space options at a time...

If the problem isn't solved by this point, copy all the messages from the Messages tab and paste them in here, and we'll see what we can find.

(Oh, besides the BOINCSaver screensaver - which I don't recommend - you can see the graphics by selecting the SETI result that is 'running' in the Work tab, and clicking on 'show graphics'. You can then search the Wiki for 'screensaver' and find out how to adjust it's appearance to make it look more like the Classic one if you prefer.)


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Message 219364 - Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 18:44:08 UTC - in response to Message 218564.  

Hi,

Thanks much - as far as I can tell, I am actually up and running and processing data!

The new graphic, showing activity, is quite cool...

Thanks,

Michael

Well, your _account_ is set up correctly, and your computer is attached to the project correctly... but you aren't _doing_ anything. Let's solve that first, then you'll be able to see the SETI graphics. :-)

If BOINC Manager is running, quit. Launch BOINC Manager. In the bottom right corner it should say (after a pause) "Connected to localhost". You'll see six tabs across the top. In "Projects", you should see SETI@home. In "Work", _normally_ you will see the name and deadline and status of whatever SETI result you are working on. For some reason, yours is blank right now. In "Transfers", you should normally see nothing at all, except for the few seconds when a file is being uploaded or downloaded. If you see anything there, please post and let us know what it is. I'll skip Messages for a second. In Statistics, you should see basically nothing until you've run for several days and have several results, then you'll see graphs of what you've done. In Disk you'll see how much space BOINC is taking up.

Under the "Commands" menu, you may have "Run" set to either Always or "based on preferences"; when debugging, I suggest putting it to "always". You may have Network Activity set to either choice (always/prefs) if you are always connected; if on dialup then you'll want to have that on suspended when you don't want BOINC to dial out. Again, "always" is good when debugging.

Go to the Messages tab. Because you just launched BOINC, there shouldn't be very many, but one or more of them _should_ be an error message telling you why you aren't doing any work. Most common is probably a complaint about disk space, because you changed the default preferences for that on the website. If so, go back to the website and give BOINC at least a couple of gigabytes, and say 50% of the %-based ones. You can tighten this down later, but only change _one_ of the disk space options at a time...

If the problem isn't solved by this point, copy all the messages from the Messages tab and paste them in here, and we'll see what we can find.

(Oh, besides the BOINCSaver screensaver - which I don't recommend - you can see the graphics by selecting the SETI result that is 'running' in the Work tab, and clicking on 'show graphics'. You can then search the Wiki for 'screensaver' and find out how to adjust it's appearance to make it look more like the Classic one if you prefer.)

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