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seti@worry-free.net Send message Joined: 29 Aug 00 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,236,697 RAC: 0 |
Hello, I've done 13,501 work units in seti@home classic and they aren't being recognized in the new system. I have done more work units than 99.613% of all users and there are only 21,033 users ahead of me. But here in this system, I have almost no credits. It isn't fair. I have devoted a lot of computer time to this! What is going to be done about this? Sincerely, Jerry Jackson seti@worry-free.net |
Daniel Michel Send message Joined: 2 Feb 04 Posts: 14925 Credit: 1,378,607 RAC: 6 |
Hello, putting it into sports terms...the Classic season will soon be over...and when it is...you will end that season with more work units that 99.613% of all users...you'll always be one of the champs of Classic. SETI/BOINC credits are like a new season...when you join...you are starting fresh...climbing the standings all over again...with the list of computers you have working for you...you'll do well in the new system...and before too long you'll pass many of those ahead of you (like me)...and be headed for the top 99% again...but it's a new season...and when we join the new SETI...we start all over again. (and in case you were asking this instead...when Classic is closed...they will update your totals...and list the true total of WU's you completed.) PROUD TO BE TFFE! |
mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 |
Hello, To continue Dan's sports analogies...when Mark McGuire hit 70 some home runs a few years back, he did not carry a single one into the next season. Barry Bonds...ditto. Sammy Sosa...double ditto. New project new stats. Your Classic stats will be and are noted on a line in your stats, they are currently accurate only as of 15 March 2005, but will be updated after the final Classic stats are compiled. Click on a name in the left hand column and you will see what I mean. Welcome to Boinc, if you have the same perserverance that you had with Classic, you will soon be near the top of the stats again. |
David Stites Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 286 Credit: 10,113,361 RAC: 0 |
Hello, We have all devoted a lot of computer time to this, and the search goes on. We all start over with BOINC but the fun is in the journey. Thanks for your hard work, keep crunching; David Stites Pullman, WA USA |
Bill Sangster Send message Joined: 20 Nov 02 Posts: 3 Credit: 35,144 RAC: 0 |
I am not impressed with Bionic Seti@home - I might try it again the future but have turned it off, I switched back to Classic til the server is shut off, I tried a Bionic Eistein@home the uploads work, Signed a Grumpy old Guy |
Geoff Send message Joined: 26 Aug 00 Posts: 72 Credit: 20,153 RAC: 0 |
I'm not impressed either, i've been with SETI since 2000 and the units are only recognised from when March this year :( |
Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0 |
I'm not impressed either, i've been with SETI since 2000 and the units are only recognised from when March this year :( Wait one week and all of your Classic Units will show up in your account. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Your Classic WU count will be converted to BONIC credits at some value (maybe near 20) per WU. Where does this information come from? "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
They don't call him Anus for nothing! |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Your Classic WU count will be converted to BONIC credits at some value (maybe near 20) per WU. No, I'm more interested in where you have seen this information, as I'm not aware of any plans of converting Classic WU's to BOINC credits. It's bad to spread false information, so unless you can provide a link to a post from the dev's here where it's said that this is the plan, I'll say you're spreading rumours and false information, which is bad in the current situation, where so many newcomers from Classic Seti wants information. And, BTW, I'm perfectly aware of the search function on this forum, as I've posted on these boards in more than a year and a half. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Your Classic WU count will be converted to BONIC credits at some value (maybe near 20) per WU. I'm also curious as to where you got this [mis]information. I remember reading theories about how to do it, but if I remember right, the consensus was that it can't/won't happen. Tell us where you got your info. Or, are you just blowing trollish smoke? It's not fair to the new Classic users, converting to BOINC to feed this misinformation to them. Don't be a rumormonger.... |-:< >:-| CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Kajunfisher Send message Joined: 29 Mar 05 Posts: 1407 Credit: 126,476 RAC: 0 |
Hello, Jerry, Your Classic credits will show up in your profile page only, they will not be converted. They may only show, say 13,101 now, but when Classic shuts down and the final snapshot is taken then your figures will be updated accordingly. If you stopped at 13,501 a long time ago... the same thing applies. Any credit that you generate using BOINC will be starting at 0. We all had to go through the same thing. Any credit you have had in the past or currently can be displayed in a "sig" that is available through different sites. If you are attached to any other projects besides Seti then those stats can be shown also. If you would like a link to some of those sites then let one of us know. You can crunch as an individual or with a team, and that whole process of how your credits are applied towards a team can be explained easily. If you crunch 20 credits with Team X then they and you have 20 credits. If you change to Team Z and crunch 30 credits then Team Z and you get 30 credits. Your total would be 50 though. No matter where you go, there you are... |
Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0 |
It's actually quite fair that everybody starts at zero with BOINC. Classic gave 1 credit for every WU completed. Whether this was a 'noisy' WU that completed in minutes, or one that ran the normal length of time. BOINC gives credits for actual CPU time spent processing on a project. A noisy WU will only give you a few credits, whereas a normal running WU will give you more. As such, there is no way to convert classic credits to BOINC, as a simple X amount of BOINC credits per classic WU is an inaccurate assessment of actual work that may have been done. The only 'fair' way to make the conversion to the new system is to start everyone at zero. |
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