I tried downloading the new software... it's even worse. Disappears and when checked in task manager memory usage is unchanging at 4224k after 10 minutes. (and listed as not responding)

Based on the messages in this thread, I have:
Set up port forwarding on 80, 1043, 31416 (to my NAT ip)
Set up exceptions in windows firewall for boinc, boincmgr, and boinccmd (just for laughs)
TURNED OFF windows firewall to rule out that being the culprit
Logged in using my username and newly created password, leaving the page open
I even tried firmware upgrading my router AND setting this machine up as the DMZ.

Even after the program finally DOES respond, I cannot click on projects and simply add it (I always get the proxy server prompt)

I have spent several HOURS trying to get this to work (and I am an IT Manager)
This is not going to encourage the average end-user to participate further.

I understand the need for a single management program to handle all projects, but was it really necessary to do away with the original seti@home client?
(because so far, this is looking like a colossal failure and waste of time)

Sorry... but I'm not very pleased right now.

Wes Jordan

I'm afraid I can only agree with this sentiment. Before using [sorry, trying to use] the BOINC system the Seti software worked faultlessly, since downloading it, it hasn't worked once? I really hope this is only a temporary problem related to the system transfer as I have donated my computer time since 1999 but if this keeps up I would have to give up on Seti as too much trouble.

John Appleby

So now I have to go find out what happened to LIBEAY32, and whether it got deleted as part of the upgrade to 5.2.10, or whether there's a 5.2.11 lurking out there, just waiting to solve my problem...

There is... 5.2.11

MJ

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I'm afraid I can only agree with this sentiment. Before using [sorry, trying to use] the BOINC system the Seti software worked faultlessly, since downloading it, it hasn't worked once? I really hope this is only a temporary problem related to the system transfer as I have donated my computer time since 1999 but if this keeps up I would have to give up on Seti as too much trouble.

I really think the problems are in large part due to the unexpectedly large number of users converting all at once. We're stressing the servers more than they have been before, and finding problems that wouldn't show under lower traffic levels. The developers are following what's happening, sometimes posting here themselves, and have released three new versions within the past day to address the issues. It's coming together, just hang in there and give it a chance.

MJ

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And then my system crashed, so I rebooted, ran SCANDISK (I have 98SE, the last version of MS Windows I shall run at home - the next OS will be something LINUX-based), restarted, and got an error dialog: "A required .DLL file, LIBEAY32.DLL, was not found."...So now I have to go find out what happened to LIBEAY32, and whether it got deleted as part of the upgrade to 5.2.10, or whether there's a 5.2.11 lurking out there, just waiting to solve my problem...

Did some investigation and found that Libeay32.dll is implicated in SSL (secure socket layer dev kits), FileZilla (FTP client) and various parasites. Deletion of the DLL effectively destroys any parasite that's dependent upon it. I'm fairly confident that either SSL or FileZilla will work less than optimally w/out it.

EDIT: I searched my Win98SE system and found one in my Windows\\System folder and discovered that BOINC is using it too. Since I'm not a SSL developer, nor have FileZilla, so I haven't a clue what the one in the SYSTEM folder is doing there. I run SpyBot & Adaware, so I doubt its a parasite.

Halifax--lad had this suggestion in another thread:

I would reccommend in your case to unistall BOINC totally and then check where BOINC lives at the moment and clear out any remaining files after the uninstall, then try to install 5.2.11, after installed open BOINC and try the attach to project option make sure you DON'T go to the Account manager button, enter the URL of the project and your password

MJ

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I (probably) had the same problem as Anand - getting stuck in the proxy dialog...

So now I have to go find out what happened to LIBEAY32, and whether it got deleted as part of the upgrade to 5.2.10, or whether there's a 5.2.11 lurking out there, just waiting to solve my problem...

It's a bit onanistic to respond to your own posts, but what the hay :)

After a fruitless half hour trying to track down the DLL (and finding a few versions of it on my system, all different creation dates and sizes - never a happy sight) I wondered whether the crash had accidentally deleted the DLL, so being the eternal optimist that I am, I re-ran the installation of BOINC, opted for repair, restarted and lo! (two lo!s in one day - must be a record) - no DLL error. No attached projects either.

So I go through the process of running the wizard, and straight into proxy dialog hell.

Cancel, exit from BOINC, restart (eternal optimism, remember), still no DLL error, and up comes BOINC. I try the wizard again, and this time no proxy dialog hell - in fact, no interaction whatsoever - I guess BOINC found the account info from the last time everything worked, and away it went.

Restarted, to make sure it wasn't a fluke, and although there was some delay before BOINC was happy it had connected to the localhost, it did finally all come together. So far. The next hurdle will be posting the results of the work and obtaining the next unit.

And now I see there is indeed a 5.2.11 being de-lurked (thank you for the heads up) so I may throw caution to the winds (of which there are quite a lot of gusts today in LA) and try installing that. Not only am I an eternal optimist, I'm a sucker for punishment (same thing, really :))

Odd bits of techinfo FYI: Windoze 98SE with all latest patches, 2Gig Pentium 4, half a gig of RAM (not so young motherboard, alas), ATI All-in-Wonder, ZoneAlarm (the freebie version), Netgear MR814 wireless router hardwired to desktop on one side, SpeedStream DSL modem on the other, Labtec wireless keyboard and mouse, 100G Western Digital plus 45G MaxStor, yadayadayada (or as we ex Brit Wolf Cubs might say: DYBDYBDYBDOBDOBDOB).

EDIT: I also run AdAware, plus AntiVir, and my/our router is configured to only allow two connections specified by MAC address (one of them the desktop, one my wife's laptop) and to only allocate two IP addresses, and I have encryption with four WEP keys set up - am I paranoid or what? (Yes, I know W-E-P is C-R-A-P but right now it's all we've got.)

Oh, and I'm still going to run the old SETI client for as long as it is capable of obtaining units. Old habits dye hard, as any monk in charge of habit repairs will tell you.

Congratulations on getting through all the hurdles and now crunching! But as for this:

Oh, and I'm still going to run the old SETI client for as long as it is capable of obtaining units. Old habits dye hard, as any monk in charge of habit repairs will tell you.

I don't know if you mean on the same computer, but if you have both Classic and BOINC running on your computer, Classic will be using the CPU over BOINC, which will not do much of anything. BOINC operates at a lower priority than Classic, and just about anything else on your computer apart from System Idle process. You should stop Classic, and then BOINC should start to do work, or not bother starting BOINC until you're done with Classic.

MJ

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Oh, and I'm still going to run the old SETI client for as long as it is capable of obtaining units. Old habits dye hard, as any monk in charge of habit repairs will tell you.

I had boinc on a win98 and have it on a celeron 500 with win98se. It's a touchy critter and I don't think that there are plans to do much to support this old version. I've seen problems with graphics and don't run them anyway. I even uncheck the "make boinc your default screensaver" when installing. I also change my general pref to read "leave in memory" to NO (this is an issue). Also, sometimes win98 doesn't call for boinc to exit when restarting a puter, so try to remember to manually close boinc. I've seen the missing file you described after a crash myself. I reloaded the OS to fix it, glad you didn't have to.

good luck

watch out for those nasty win98 memory leaks

tony

OK - this finally worked for me.

(from BigH):
"HOWEVER...when I next opened up BOINC, I selected File->Select Computer and entered "localhost" which worked ok (no need to enter the password-it's done for you)..."

But I must protest this lame aspect of the abuser interface. I found no mention of the magic 'localhost' in the help pages. I wonder how many people would have given up in frustration.

try this:

Exit boinc manager- file/exit

go to the seti website, log in, go to "your account", create a password.
remember password
do NOT log out
start boinc manager
go to "Projects", then "attach to projects"
enter URL
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
select "use existing account"
enter email address and the NEWLY created password NOT hex key you got in mail


does this work?

tony

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OK - this finally worked for me.

(from BigH):
"HOWEVER...when I next opened up BOINC, I selected File->Select Computer and entered "localhost" which worked ok (no need to enter the password-it's done for you)..."

But I must protest this lame aspect of the abuser interface. I found no mention of the magic 'localhost' in the help pages. I wonder how many people would have given up in frustration.

try this:

Exit boinc manager- file/exit

go to the seti website, log in, go to "your account", create a password.
remember password
do NOT log out
start boinc manager
go to "Projects", then "attach to projects"
enter URL
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
select "use existing account"
enter email address and the NEWLY created password NOT hex key you got in mail


does this work?

tony

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Also, sometimes win98 doesn't call for boinc to exit when restarting a puter, so try to remember to manually close boinc.

I think they've fixed this with v5.2.x - at least it no longer is a problem on my three Win9x machines.

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I tried this with the firewall off and on. I get only as far as entering the URL ,http://setiathome.berkeley.edu, and I get the message "URL not found. Now what?

Dave

try this:

Exit boinc manager- file/exit

go to the seti website, log in, go to "your account", create a password.
remember password
do NOT log out
start boinc manager
go to "Projects", then "attach to projects"
enter URL
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
select "use existing account"
enter email address and the NEWLY created password NOT hex key you got in mail


does this work?

tony

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I tried this with the firewall off and on. I get only as far as entering the URL ,http://setiathome.berkeley.edu, and I get the message "URL not found. Now what?

Hi dave, go to "Start", "All programs", "Accessories", open a "command prompt".

type in:

tracert 66.28.250.125

hit enter
does it complete to the UL/DL server at berkeley?

Also type in:

tracert 128.32.18.173

hit enter
does it successfully connect to the seti scheduling server?

If not in either where does it fail?

tony

Dave

Also, what OS are you using? Did you know there's a new version of boinc available for windows? It's Boinc 5.2.11 and if you click on this link it will download immediately, just install it over the old, no need to uninstall.

tony

Dave, also check in your firewall to see if BOTH Boinc.exe and Boincmgr.exe have "full internet access". I saw you said they were off, but they will need to be ON eventually

Also:

these ports need to be opened if not already

BOINC Manager needs to be able to open outbound connections to either 1043 or 31416.

BOINC Screensaver needs to be able to open outbound connections to either 1043 or 31416.

BOINC needs to open an inbound connection to either 1043 or 31416, and an outbound connection to port 80 for downloads and uploads of workunits, results, and science packages.

is there no download for us users of Mac OS10.2.8??

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is there no download for us users of Mac OS10.2.8??

This is probably better explained in the Macintosh board (this is for Windows), but I had asked the same thing for a friend last week. No, there were too many changes in the Mac OS after 10.2.8 that BOINC relys on. For more info, ask the Mac folk

MJ

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TONY YOU RULE! I was about in tears trying to figure this out. I did what you said in this reply and it popped right up. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU from a now NOT confused User!
-Rebecca DeVinney


Exit boinc manager- file/exit

go to the seti website, log in, go to "your account", create a password.
remember password
do NOT log out
start boinc manager
go to "Projects", then "attach to projects"
enter URL
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
select "use existing account"
enter email address and the NEWLY created password NOT hex key you got in mail


does this work?

tony[/quote]
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TONY YOU RULE! I was about in tears trying to figure this out. I did what you said in this reply and it popped right up. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU from a now NOT confused User!
-Rebecca DeVinney


Exit boinc manager- file/exit

go to the seti website, log in, go to "your account", create a password.
remember password
do NOT log out
start boinc manager
go to "Projects", then "attach to projects"
enter URL
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
select "use existing account"
enter email address and the NEWLY created password NOT hex key you got in mail


does this work?

tony

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TONY YOU RULE! I was about in tears trying to figure this out. I did what you said in this reply and it popped right up. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU from a now NOT confused User!
-Rebecca DeVinney


Exit boinc manager- file/exit

go to the seti website, log in, go to "your account", create a password.
remember password
do NOT log out
start boinc manager
go to "Projects", then "attach to projects"
enter URL
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
select "use existing account"
enter email address and the NEWLY created password NOT hex key you got in mail


does this work?

tony

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Yes, it works! THANKS! Just one addition to the instructions: Make sure when you exit the BOINC manager that you exit it totally, that is from the quick launch tray at the bottom of the screen. Then when re-launching BOINC manager do so from the START menu => BOINC ----- THANKS! Terry N.

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