I am posting this here as I cannot find any other way of getting it to the notice of those responsible for introducing BOINC. There may be a "contact us" section on the Seti website but I cannot see it.
I have been running SETI@home for some time quite happily on a couple of machines. When I built a new machine I planned to run Seti on that as well.
I found the only way to do it was to also install BOINC. This is something I neither wish nor intend to do. As a result my fastest machine is not
running it.
I cannot be the only one who feels this way. You are risking alienating supporters by this move. Seti I will donate time to support: the university's other projects can look after themselves.Wik

I am posting this here as I cannot find any other way of getting it to the notice of those responsible for introducing BOINC. There may be a "contact us" section on the Seti website but I cannot see it.

a) there was no way to attach the World Grid project (I went through the procedure MANY times - for some obscure reason it just wouldn't "recognise" my existing account);

b) I had to detach Climate Prediction, because it began "freezing" my PC (didn't do that before);

and c) right now, there's a messy quadruple "pending" and/or "failed" download of new SETI data, whereas before BOINC I never had any problems with getting or sending data (except when the server was down).

My "credits", BTW, are nowhere to be seen; after two years of running SETI (I attached the existing account) I seem to have no "average", no points, "no nothing" whatsoever.

I am sure there are ways to make this thing run smoothly - only, it takes WAY too much time to figure them out. And I am starting to think: it may not be worth it.

I have been running SETI@home for some time quite happily on a couple of machines. When I built a new machine I planned to run Seti on that as well.

I found the only way to do it was to also install BOINC. This is something I neither wish nor intend to do. As a result my fastest machine is not
running it.

I cannot be the only one who feels this way. You are risking alienating supporters by this move. Seti I will donate time to support: the university's other projects can look after themselves.

Wik

I have been running SETI@home for some time quite happily on a couple of machines. When I built a new machine I planned to run Seti on that as well.

I found the only way to do it was to also install BOINC. This is something I neither wish nor intend to do. As a result my fastest machine is not
running it.

I cannot be the only one who feels this way. You are risking alienating supporters by this move. Seti I will donate time to support: the university's other projects can look after themselves.

Wik

No, you are definitely not the only one who feels that way. In fact, I am a supporter who will very soon be "alienated".

I am not one to shun new things; quite the opposite, actually. I love exploring new technology, new work methods and so on.
I also have a PC with plenty of RAM, and I have been successfully running SETI (as well as World Grid and Climate Prediction, but SETI was always given prioritary status) for quite a while now.

Then I downloaded BOINC (by the way, I HATE the name and the logo design). I won't go into details; the darned thing has already taken way too much of my time. Let me just say that: a) there was no way to attach the World Grid project (I went through the procedure MANY times - for some obscure reason it just wouldn't "recognise" my existing account); b) I had to detach Climate Prediction, because it began "freezing" my PC (didn't do that before); and c) right now, there's a messy quadruple "pending" and/or "failed" download of new SETI data, whereas before BOINC I never had any problems with getting or sending data (except when the server was down). My "credits", BTW, are nowhere to be seen; after two years of running SETI (I attached the existing account) I seem to have no "average", no points, "no nothing" whatsoever.

I am sure there are ways to make this thing run smoothly - only, it takes WAY too much time to figure them out. And I am starting to think: it may not be worth it.

I am also the one who will be alienated on December 15. I have spent years with setiathome finishing more than 6,000 units. Still I have been spending enough time struggling with BOINC and concluded that it does not worth my time.
Setiathome guys need to know that they are not giving us satisfaction by introducing BOINC.

I am also the one who will be alienated on December 15. I have spent years with setiathome finishing more than 6,000 units. Still I have been spending enough time struggling with BOINC and concluded that it does not worth my time.
Setiathome guys need to know that they are not giving us satisfaction by introducing BOINC.

Count me in (ie OUT) I hate this BOINC - its ugly and a real PITA.
Please create a simple screen saver interface (as the classic seti@home) and please dont add any programs to my Startup folder!

BYE FOR NOW - I'll be looking for another distributed NON-BOINC project to support instead!

Any ideas?

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

I am also the one who will be alienated on December 15. I have spent years with setiathome finishing more than 6,000 units. Still I have been spending enough time struggling with BOINC and concluded that it does not worth my time.
Setiathome guys need to know that they are not giving us satisfaction by introducing BOINC.

Count me in (ie OUT) I hate this BOINC - its ugly and a real PITA.
Please create a simple screen saver interface (as the classic seti@home) and please dont add any programs to my Startup folder!

BYE FOR NOW - I'll be looking for another distributed NON-BOINC project to support instead!

Any ideas?

Feel free to file a complaint. In case you need help doing that, feel free to use this.

About finding other non-BOINC projects, Google is your friend.

Have a nice day!

One of the keys to getting folk to do things for you for free (however worthy the cause may be) is to make it as easy as possible for them - not reward them with hassle.

Also, dare I say, I suspect that their are many of us who are unhappy that our choice has been limited. Yes, BOINC may make contributing to several projects more manageble (if you can get it to work and want to do that) but why is this now the only avenue for those who wish to concentrate on a single project? SETI@Home must be running somewhere, but now I can only access it through the blasted BOINC interface (Lord, I feel such an idiot everytime I have to say or type that purile name).

Go on, prove me wrong, I dare you. Just tell me, in less than twenty five words, where the BOINC button is that will allow me to see my SETI work units being processed, a la the old screensaver? No "make sure this, that or the other is running", just click on a button and up it pops.

I'm waiting...

Err, sorry, I thought the contributors to distributed computing projects were the ones doing the helping. Are we now supposed to ask for help so that we can... help?

One of the keys to getting folk to do things for you for free (however worthy the cause may be) is to make it as easy as possible for them - not reward them with hassle. Also, dare I say, I suspect that their are many of us who are unhappy that our choice has been limited. Yes, BOINC may make contributing to several projects more manageble (if you can get it to work and want to do that) but why is this now the only avenue for those who wish to concentrate on a single project? SETI@Home must be running somewhere, but now I can only access it through the blasted BOINC interface (Lord, I feel such an idiot everytime I have to say or type that purile name).

Go on, prove me wrong, I dare you. Just tell me, in less than twenty five words, where the BOINC button is that will allow me to see my SETI work units being processed, a la the old screensaver? No "make sure this, that or the other is running", just click on a button and up it pops.

I'm waiting...

One of the keys to getting folk to do things for you for free (however worthy the cause may be) is to make it as easy as possible for them - not reward them with hassle.

I volunteer my time with several performing arts companies. Before I could, I needed to learn stagecraft, box office procedures, how to present people and things (props, set dressings, costumes) in front of an audience.
My (otherwise retired) mother volunteers her time with the Red Cross. I can't begin to tell you the classes she's had to take so that she can give her time.

And you don't want to read how to run some fairly simple software?

Also, dare I say, I suspect that their are many of us who are unhappy that our choice has been limited. Yes, BOINC may make contributing to several projects more manageble (if you can get it to work and want to do that) but why is this now the only avenue for those who wish to concentrate on a single project? SETI@Home must be running somewhere, but now I can only access it through the blasted BOINC interface (Lord, I feel such an idiot everytime I have to say or type that purile name).

Because that's the path that the scientists have chosen for SETI@Home to work. Before BOINC (and I think the name is amusing and cute), the only choice was to run it stand alone, and anyone who was interested in different distributed computing projects had to choose among them to run at any given time. You don't have to set up any other project if you don't choose to.

Go on, prove me wrong, I dare you. Just tell me, in less than twenty five words, where the BOINC button is that will allow me to see my SETI work units being processed, a la the old screensaver? No "make sure this, that or the other is running", just click on a button and up it pops.

Select work tab. Select SETI@Home result. Click "show graphics".
Nine words.

Yeah, the screen saver looks different. So does "Mystify" on my new computer, it runs too dratted fast to enjoy.

I'm waiting...

Godot will be along shortly....

MJ