Okay, okay, I know and accept that some people are going to be infuriated at the mere suggestion of what I'm about to say, but I think some people will agree. Is not the most important aspect of advertising to reach as many people as possible as cheaply and easily as possible???

It seems to me that if SETI@Home was to integrate some sort of advertising into their screen saver (i.e. a small box in the corner which flips through different ads as time progresses) there would be many companies willing to pay (donate) money to SETI@Home. Maybe it could even count as a write off to the company which would, I'm sure, bring the money flooding in.

Now, this may be "corrupting" SETI@Home as we know it, or it may be "working for the man", but if it was your choice, and allowing advertising would see the Parkes radio telescope SETI@Home project running in 6 months, or the Allen Telescope Array completed 2 years ahead of schedule, or better equipment that would be able to handle 5 times the number of current SETI@home participants.....you get my drift.

I think this is a natural step in the saga that is SETI@Home. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet, and I'd put money on the fact that the idea has been floated around before. Companies will be having wet dreams realizing their logos are appearing on screen savers worldwide, potentially to millions. This could mean hundreds of thousands of much (MUCH MUCH) needed dollars for SETI@home, and hopefully as a natural extension, SETI in general.

Hoping some head honcho will read this post,
Jeff Hammersmark

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Great idea, and I am sure Ad Blocking would take care of the pesky buggers.

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> Great idea, and I am sure Ad Blocking would take care of the pesky buggers.
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Better still what if everyone donated a couple of Dollars to the cause? How many would be prepared to do that?

Hmmm.. paying for a volunteer service? There's gotta be an ethical problem somewhere in there. SETI already has the most important thing from us: virtually unlimited CPU power. Now if the peeps at berkeley want to solicit donations so they can advertise on other websites thats fine but they shouldn't subject its volunteers to unwanted ads on its screensaver without at least having a checkbox option to turn off the ads.

What's next; Ad-Ware, Pleeeeease..........


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> Hmmm.. paying for a volunteer service? There's gotta be an ethical problem
> somewhere in there. SETI already has the most important thing from us:
> virtually unlimited CPU power. Now if the peeps at berkeley want to solicit
> donations so they can advertise on other websites thats fine but they
> shouldn't subject its volunteers to unwanted ads on its screensaver without at
> least having a checkbox option to turn off the ads.
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Are you telling me if SETI@home said, you can a) Have the SETI@home project continue with one reciever and server outages as is, with no ads, or b) SETI@home expanding to the Parkes radio telescope and no more server problems, but with a small box flipping ads on the screensaver, you would choose a)??? You must be one of those people crunching for ranking, not for science. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, but it's gotta be true.

As for turning the ads off as an option, that's not really fair as it's not like we ENJOY seeing ads. We see ads for pepsi, condoms, and cheese everyday and we have no choice, and we never see the benefits of it except for fat executives taking hawaiian vacations. Don't tell me it would be a big deal if SETI had small ads on the screen saver, and we KNEW it was helping them acheieve the goals and obectives we believe so dearly in.

> What's next; Ad-Ware, Pleeeeease..........

Well I have to see your ads in your sig every time you post on this message board.....don't you think you owe SETI@Home something for it??

I don't much like seeing large ads or banners in signatures but if I knew it was feeding your children or raising money for cancer research I would be all for it......get my point?

If you think about it, the ads wouldnt be that bad, how many of us actually use
the screensaver. I use the cli myself as do alot of people, and i am guessing
that most of the rest keep it running in the systray,running as a service, or
screensaver runs for a few minutes then goes blank. So I dont think the ads
would be that bad if it gets better equipment for seti. Just my opinion.




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If they're static images that change at a fixed interval- I think that would be good for meeting project financial needs and is a good idea.
If they're scrolling. animated, roving to&fro, or FFFF****FFFF****FLASHING....
Sorry no.&a no.&a no-no-no.
Some sites have static ad blocks in fixed positions that the user can remove with a click til next page.
I get the message without feeling battered....cc

> Are you telling me if SETI@home said, you can a) Have the SETI@home project
> continue with one reciever and server outages as is, with no ads, or b)
> SETI@home expanding to the Parkes radio telescope and no more server problems,
> but with a small box flipping ads on the screensaver, you would choose a)???
> You must be one of those people crunching for ranking, not for science. I
> don't mean that in a derogatory way, but it's gotta be true.

I'll address my reply in your format so you easily understand:
1) Yeah thats what I'm telling you. 1a) If you think that selling ads will make SETI the greatest thing since sliced bread and solve all their problems then you really need to pull you head out of your ass. 1b) "I don't mean that in a derogatory way," Uh huh.. cheap attempt to smooth over your words but you failed. 1c) "it's gotta be true." I take back my 'head out of your ass' comment since your all ass for ASSuming something you know nothing about. Perhaps it's because I dont agree with the MARKETING, such as ads, for a service that by my own free will and my own freedom of choice to volunteer for, to help out the SCIENCE of SETI. If I only cared about the numbers I'd have both logical CPUs seti crunching instead of one.

> As for turning the ads off as an option, that's not really fair as it's not
> like we ENJOY seeing ads.
Unless you're excersizing some form of twisted logic that sentence doesn't make sense.

> We see ads for pepsi, condoms, and cheese everyday
> and we have no choice,
Well maybe for some internal psychological reason you feel you have no choice but the rest of the world's population can just change the channel.

> Don't tell me it would be a big deal if
> SETI had small ads on the screen saver, and we KNEW it was helping them
> acheieve the goals and obectives we believe so dearly in.
Oh I'll tell you whatever I want. But then again I wasn't speaking directly to you but rather making my own OPINION in general. You speak of wealthy fat executives but have you ever seen the financial figures for a major university? Especially one involved in sports? If the bigwigs at Berkeley wanted to pump more money into seti it would be within their power to do so, but that's their business. But if your so high strung on seeing ads then I suggest you go channel surf for some commercials.

Have a better day!

LOL! (Laughing Out Loud) I have enough trouble dealing with spam. I don't need advertising on my desktop. I don't think anyone would ever use a screensaver like that. My stay here would be a short lived one, aside from the fact we're doing them a favor.
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Whether ads are to be allowed or not, it's SETI and Berkeley university decision no matter how we (who do not own a company and offer any money nor other physical support) influence them.
Frankly, I don't even know whether their policy can accept such ads.

Hope everyone belongs to the Planetary Society, only $30 a year and they support Seti@H.
Have a nice day....

> Also with the current budget deficit in California the UC/CSU system have
> strict financial policies. Who knows, if they accept money thru ads they
> might just have to give an equal amount back to the state?

IMO, when SETI found proof of E.T., it would be a far more greater amount to give back to the state. Or even the world. :)