Has anyone else experienced a problem uploading/downloading of work units on Seti Classic.
The latest successful upload was about 0819 hours here.
All my computers that were running seti classic have been switched to Seti boinc for now.
Wonder if this is their next step to turning off the seti classic program for good?

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Has anyone else experienced a problem uploading/downloading of work units on Seti Classic.
The latest successful upload was about 0819 hours here.
All my computers that were running seti classic have been switched to Seti boinc for now.
Wonder if this is their next step to turning off the seti classic program for good?

Sounds like it. But I cannot be sure.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

AFAIK the next step will be to stop downloads.
Then allow all crunchers to finish their WUs.
Then stop uploads as well and shut down the Classic thing.

But this will certainly not begin before the new BOINC version is released. Nor - hopefully - before they tried all and everything to inform the Classic crunchers.

:-)= Greybeard

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Has anyone else experienced a problem uploading/downloading of work units on Seti Classic.
The latest successful upload was about 0819 hours here.
All my computers that were running seti classic have been switched to Seti boinc for now.
Wonder if this is their next step to turning off the seti classic program for good?

George, I highly doubt that they will close down uploading. Downloading yes. I would think that they would want everyone to finish their current WUs and upload them before pulling the plug. I don't see any logic in shutting down both at the same time.

@ Jason
Quit giving out misinformation. Only talk about what you know and not about what you do not know. You don't even know what "Classic" is, except for reading about it here and scratching your head thinking "What are they talking about?".

Back@ George
I would fire off a message on NC and see what answers you get. The devs don't frequent the Cafe much, mostly just NC. Happy crunching.... >:-) (-:<

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@ Jason
Quit giving out misinformation. Only talk about what you know and not about what you do not know. You don't even know what "Classic" is, except for reading about it here and scratching your head thinking "What are they talking about?".

Actually I do know what it is And I have seen it and watched it for a few months before I got into it. I just was disappointed I had to DL BOINC at first. If it were not for SETI Classic, i would neve had joined in the first place.
As fo misinformation, It was not misinformation. It was simply a Sounds Like it. Never said I was right.

And I did not see you give an answer....

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

@ Jason
Quit giving out misinformation. Only talk about what you know and not about what you do not know. You don't even know what "Classic" is, except for reading about it here and scratching your head thinking "What are they talking about?".

Oh Siran,

Remember...Little Billy is still learning.

-Mrs. anon

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@ Jason
Quit giving out misinformation. Only talk about what you know and not about what you do not know. You don't even know what "Classic" is, except for reading about it here and scratching your head thinking "What are they talking about?".

Actually I do know what it is And I have seen it and watched it for a few months before I got into it. I just was disappointed I had to DL BOINC at first. If it were not for SETI Classic, i would neve had joined in the first place.
As fo misinformation, It was not misinformation. It was simply a Sounds Like it. Never said I was right.

And I did not see you give an answer....

Did you crunch WUs for "Classic" SETI? I did, for over 5 years, right after they went public in early '99. This before I switched to SETI/BOINC. Tell me, how were you able to see and watch it? You had to see it on someone's computer who already has an account at "Classic" SETI. They shut down new user signups months ago, which is why, when you signed up for SETI, you had to do BOINC.

Your post was "misinformation"! You stated that it sounds that way to you. You are ASSuming. You do NOT know what you are talking about. I have read how they will shut down "Classic" SETI. They WILL NOT shut down both downloading and uploading at the same time. They will shut down downloading. Any current users will continue to crunch the WUs they have in their cache. When ALL WUs have been crunched and returned, then and only then will they shut down uploading.

Never said I was right. You don't have to say you're wrong. Anyone that knows what's going on will know you're wrong. Thus, my reply, just to give the original poster the RIGHT information. In reading most of your posts, I get the impression that you think you know it all. How arrogant! I don't even know it all. I will only post information about what I DO know, not what I ASSUME I know.

Face it! You do NOT know what is going on with "Classic" except for what you might read in these fora. And since you've only been here for about 7 weeks, you could not have read all the threads in all the fora. You do NOT know BOINC like you would like others to think you do. You do NOT know trolls like you would like others to think you do. Just watch, I have a feeling you will be finding out soon, about what a "real" troll is.

One more thing.... If you would have comprehended what I said in my post, you would have seen that I DID give an answer, just not an answer for the problem the original poster is having. I do not have an answer for his problem and will NOT just post something just to post something, like you did. As I said this morning, quit posting misinformation!

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Has anyone else experienced a problem uploading/downloading of work units on Seti Classic.
The latest successful upload was about 0819 hours here.
All my computers that were running seti classic have been switched to Seti boinc for now.
Wonder if this is their next step to turning off the seti classic program for good?

Whatever my problem was seems to have cleared up and the upload/download situation is
fine now. Thanks for the comments.

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Your post was "misinformation"! You stated that it sounds that way to you. You are ASSuming. You do NOT know what you are talking about. I have read how they will shut down "Classic" SETI. They WILL NOT shut down both downloading and uploading at the same time. >snip< In reading most of your posts, I get the impression that you think you know it all. How arrogant! I don't even know it all. I will only post information about what I DO know, not what I ASSUME I know. >snip< You do NOT know BOINC like you would like others to think you do. You do NOT know trolls like you would like others to think you do. Just watch, I have a feeling you will be finding out soon, about what a "real" troll is. >snip< I do not have an answer for his problem and will NOT just post something just to post something, like you did. As I said this morning, quit posting misinformation!

A) He posts as he wishes, just as you do.
B) For someone who has 3599 posts as of the date of this post, it seems likely that you often "just post something just to post something."
C) The sort of ranting like I highlighted above does nothing to advance your position. You come across as emotional, "arrogant," and you present the position that you "know it all."

Relax.

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One more thing.... If you would have comprehended what I said in my post, you would have seen that I DID give an answer, just not an answer for the problem the original poster is having. I do not have an answer for his problem and will NOT just post something just to post something, like you did. As I said this morning, quit posting misinformation!

Siran sweetie, stop being mean to Jason. I have never heard him say a bad word to anyone or about anyone on this forum. He was just trying to help, so I think your attack was a little unwarranted.

Why don't you guys shake hands and make up over cold beer in Rocky's thread?


[Edit]..and Rush, what's wrong with being emotional?[/Edit]

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[Edit]..and Rush, what's wrong with being emotional?[/Edit]

Nothing. Unless it clouds your judgment, which is how it came across above. 8^]

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A) He posts as he wishes, just as you do.
B) For someone who has 3599 posts as of the date of this post, it seems likely that you often "just post something just to post something."
C) The sort of ranting like I highlighted above does nothing to advance your position. You come across as emotional, "arrogant," and you present the position that you "know it all."

Relax.

[sound of smacking hand on forehead: SMACK] .o0(Another NOOB who thinks he knows it all....)

Just how do you figure that I think I know it all when I told him that I do not? What I did post, I just happen to KNOW about because I have read it from the devs here on these fora.

The original author said he could not up/download to/from "Classic SETI. He asked if that was the next process of shutting down "Classic" SETI. Jason posted that it sounded that way to him, NOT knowing what the facts are in the closure of "Classic" SETI. My post was to give the original author the RIGHT information and to tell Jason to quit giving out misinformation.

The FIRST step, in closing "Classic" SETI was to stop new accounts. They will allow the continuation of "Classic" SETI operations with the current user base.
The SECOND step was to shut down the message boards at "Classic" SETI and have the users there post in these fora. Once the data to crunch [WUs] has been depleted....
The THIRD step will be to shut down downloading. The current user base will continue to crunch their WUs in their cache, and upload the results. Once all the results have been returned....
The FOURTH step will be to shut down uploading and encourage the "Classic" SETI users to switch to BOINC/SETI, not that they haven't been already. All "Classic" SETI accounts were migrated to BOINC long ago, so it would be a matter of activating the account here, downloading BOINC, attaching to BOINC/SETI and start crunching WUs here.
Any hardware that can be incorporated into BOINC/SETI will be. "Classic" SETI will be, a "Classic".

I know this because I read it here on SETI. It was posted by one of the devs, if I remember correctly. Ask me how the WUs are analized and I will tell you I don't know. Why? Because I DON'T claim nor present the postion that I "know it all".

Since when does my post count, count for anything? There are quite a number of users here with high post counts. I do NOT post something just to post something. I have quite a number of friends that I have made here and we interact here, by posting messages to one another. I will attempt to help someone, such as in this thread, IF I happen to know about the problem, or in this case to let him know that his thinking was not right, that he had nothing to worry about, for now.

Arrogant? It takes a lot of arrogance to stick you nose into something you're not involved in. So, it seems to me that YOU post something, just to post something. Had you come off in a much different manner, this post would not have been sent.... >:-| |-:<

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

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Siran sweetie, stop being mean to Jason. I have never heard him say a bad word to anyone or about anyone on this forum. He was just trying to help, so I think your attack was a little unwarranted.

Why don't you guys shake hands and make up over cold beer in Rocky's thread?


[Edit]..and Rush, what's wrong with being emotional?[/Edit]

I did not attack him, I'm not being mean. I attempted to set the facts straight. I do happen to know most of the closure procedure for "Classic" SETI. He does not. I read about it here, it seems he hasn't given that he gave wrong information to the original author asking about "Classic" SETI. If he wants to help so bad, I suggest he only help with what he happens to know about, and not about what he doesn't. I only help someone if I happen to know about the problem or whatever. I will not just throw an answer out there and hope it's right, as he did.

You haven't seen him say a bad word to anyone? What do you call it when he calls me a troll? Or did you miss that post he made? He has no idea what a troll is. I do, and I have a feeling we'll be seeing one here soon. >:-) (-:<

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

It's also trollish to use a persons stats against them, including post count. Read thru the many donation threads in NC for a lesson in stats etiquette.

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me@rescam.org

I did not attack him, I'm not being mean.

Since you frequently make reference to how other people come across over the forum, have you ever stopped to consider how your posts read? Or was capitalizing the first three letters of the word 'assume' simply the result of a stuck caps lock?

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I am simply trying to help. i never put out any "misinformation" purposely. You, Siran, telling someone to go to another post is not helping. I stated something that was a possibility. I am Not meant to be right. (Not trying to be perfect like you) Telling someone to "ask" somewhere is not help. Its telling them to go somehwere else because they are too dumb to know whats going on, in my opinion. Second, I am not here for credits. I am here for science. And when a LOGICAL question is asked a logical answer is given. I do NOT sit here and ty to get people to screw their programs up. I give advise. And If I am wrong, so be it. They follow examples and advice like they would follow yours or mine...at their own risk.I am not trying to be right. I am TRYING to provide ideas. So stop trying to be right and give advice. Because You are not perfect. And nor am I.

AS for you Siran, Excuse me. I am sorry if you feel treatened. I am NOT trying to take your pom-poms away.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

It's also trollish to use a persons stats against them, including post count. Read thru the many donation threads in NC for a lesson in stats etiquette.

Well he needs to learn how to talk to people first then get back to me.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

George you are not new to the system by the looks of your stats, so why did you post here and not in number crunching or Q&A.
At the same time A lot of good people who have given me good advice seem to be getting very overheated by a simple question.

Its Friday night where I am, Chill people and look forward to the weekend

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[sound of smacking hand on forehead: SMACK] .o0(Another NOOB who thinks he knows it all....)

Ah, theatrics. That doesn't help your position either.

Just how do you figure that I think I know it all when I told him that I do not?

Yet, in the two posts above, you launch into a relatively long screed explaining everything. Which, as I said, comes across, as if you "know it all."

>snip of thread summary<

Because I DON'T claim nor present the postion that I "know it all".

It doesn't come across that way to you, maybe. Others in this thread disagree.

Since when does my post count, count for anything?

When someone comments that others may "just post something just to post something," the post count can suggest hypocrisy. This may or may not apply to you.

Arrogant? It takes a lot of arrogance to stick you nose into something you're not involved in....

This is a public discussion board. People comment or not, as they will. They become involved or not as they will.

...So, it seems to me that YOU post something, just to post something.

And that something was, in Jason's defense, that he posts as he wishes, just as you do; that your post count could suggest that you often "just post something just to post something;" and that your post (now a number of them in this thread) does nothing to advance your position. You come across as doing exactly what you were complaining someone else was doing.

Had you come off in a much different manner, this post would not have been sent....

Post as you wish. All I was saying was that the style and tone of the post in question tended to weaken your position.


And that's the end of that chapter! 'Nuff said.

I am simply trying to help. i never put out any "misinformation" purposely.

In other words you opened your mouth without knowing the real fact. That is misinforming....

You, Siran, telling someone to go to another post is not helping. I stated something that was a possibility. I am Not meant to be right. (Not trying to be perfect like you) Telling someone to "ask" somewhere is not help. Its telling them to go somehwere else because they are too dumb to know whats going on, in my opinion.

Well, my bad.... Maybe I should have told George that I didn't have the answer as to why he couldn't up/download at "Classic". But, I gave him the benefit-of-the-doubt figuring that he knew that.

For one thing, the Cafe is NOT the place to seek help. I did NOT say this in my reply. I was being nice [to George] about that by not mentioning it. For another, I suggested a direction where he may get the answers he was seeking more quickly and from those who would know, the devs.

I, in NO WAY implied that anyone was dumb. You opinion, on that, is highly suspect....

Second, I am not here for credits. I am here for science. And when a LOGICAL question is asked a logical answer is given.

Your answer was not only illogical, it was WRONG!

I do NOT sit here and ty to get people to screw their programs up.

Where did this come from? Are you saying that I am doing that?

I give advise. And If I am wrong, so be it.

Don't give advice on what you know nothing about, and you won't be wrong.

They follow examples and advice like they would follow yours or mine...at their own risk.

I do not give advice much at all. When I do, it will NOT put anyone or their PCs at risk. I will not do that.

I am not trying to be right. I am TRYING to provide ideas.

If you're not going to try to be right, then don't give out advice or "help".

So stop trying to be right and give advice.

In this instance, I'm not trying to be right, I AM right. Read the boards as I have and you will know what I know. And, don't even think about telling ME not to do something. If I have the RIGHT advice, I will give it. If I have the RIGHT answer, I will give it. If I have the RIGHT help, I will give it. And not you or anyone else has the power to stop me from doing so.

Because You are not perfect. And nor am I.

Perfect? When did I ever say I was perfect? When did I ever imply that I was perfect? I'm not, and I don't need some noob telling me what I already know. You, on the other hand, proved you imperfection by giving false information.

AS for you Siran, Excuse me. I am sorry if you feel treatened. I am NOT trying to take your pom-poms away.

Now what makes you think that I am threatened by YOU. I am threatened by NO ONE! Especially by some noob....

Now, if you feel I'm being mean, so-be-it. If you feel that I have flamed you, so-be-it. I'm just tired of someone that fails to see the error of their ways such as you. My intent was NOT to be mean or flame. My intent is to set the record straight, for which you keep resisting because you think you know it all.

I will attempt to make this my last post on this subject because frankly, I'm tired of spinning my wheels against a noob like you.... Oh, and just in case you don't know, "noob" is a name we came up with long ago. It's short for newbie....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath