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Message 10174 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 4:24:05 UTC
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You dislike how the project is run and many aspects of the project itself, but you and those like you stick around complaining. You must be some kind of Seti masochist to continue to support a project that brings you such woe.

It's like you're making delicious macaroni and cheese, only the boiling water scalds you every time and you don't like powdered cheese. However, you continue to make the harmful sidedish for some odd reason. Oh the injustice of the situation!

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Message 10184 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 4:59:38 UTC

We have brought up another transitioner to try and cut through the backlog faster.

So that brings us up to 5 transitioners and 3 splitters.

I'll be watching it for awhile and see what else might need tweaking.

A week ago we were at 55,000 registered hosts, today 100,000 hosts.

Before this latest hiccup BOINC was processing 200,000 WU's a day.

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Message 10187 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 5:04:46 UTC
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Hi-ho hi-ho back to crunching we go.....Sorry, just got a little excited when I was able to download three more days of work:-)

Now if the credits start rolling in again, all will be good.


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Message 10188 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 5:06:59 UTC

Good deal, and thanks for the update Rom.

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Message 10197 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 5:27:14 UTC

Thanks Rom, we needed that update..

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Message 10203 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 6:04:35 UTC - in response to Message 10197.

Thank you for the update and hey, Big Swede, your on the list of top one thousand and climbing fast. Check it out:

http://www.boincstats.com/stats/sah_Users1.htm
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Message 10278 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 11:33:51 UTC
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"You must be some kind of Seti masochist to continue to support a project that brings you such woe."

If you'd readmore than jsut the last post.....you see I uninstalled BOINC and reinstalled SETI classic.

Yes, I am VERY militant about my SETI cause. I believe in alien life and I want to find them before they find us.

Think about the first human explorers. Aliens will be coming here to plunder our planet for resources.....not make friends with the "insects" currently inhabiting this world.

Face it folks. One alien who can imitate the "miracles" performed in the Bible will have this planet handed to him in a hand-basket by the beLIEvers.

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Message 10288 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 12:17:34 UTC

Hello guies,

I had the same problem than the author of this thread since I've installed Boinc and migrated my sah classic account and finally was able to get only one wu.

On another hand my sah classic client can't retrieve my account when installing on a new comp, is sah classic over?

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Message 10325 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 14:22:03 UTC - in response to Message 10075.

Even the leaders in IT aren't perfect.

Plus, the company I work at, there are various departments, such as word processing, graphics, storeroom, etc. If I as a member of my group wish to use their services, those departments charge my department for their time. I know at my school that if one department wanted to use another departments facilities or personel, they were often charged for the use. I would imagine UCB works in a similar way. If I'm wrong, they still have to hire people and pay them (even students) to work on the project. So regardless of whether I am right or wrong, it still comes down to the fact that they have limited resources on personel AND equipment. If you don't want to give them a break and want to continue to gripe, give them the resources they need and then gripe all you want.

Chris


> Give them a break?? NO WAY
>
> Berkley claim to be a world leader in IT - if they can't get a simple
> scheduling problem fixed then they're no better than the Bullamakanka primary
> school as far as IT goes.
>
> It's a scheduler problem and a resource problem - - we provide an immense
> resource to Berkley for nothing - all of our machines buzzing away and they
> pay nothing - not even respect to the providers.
>
> We deserve the right to be kept informed and to have the amount of work
> required to keep our machines working to full capacity.
>
> Every body who has a problem with "no work" should send an email directly to
> Berkley. Then and only then will Berkley see it is their reputation at stake
> and something will be done in providing enough resources.
>
>
> the man from the land down under
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Message 10327 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 14:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 10123.

LOL. That was .. awesome. :) Entertaining and well said. Thank you.

Chris

> That was well said, MegaByte, but I think you're giving many (most?) Seti@home
> users way too much credit.
>
> To many (most?) Seti@home users, Seti@home doesn't seem to be about helping a
> non-profit, scientific organization with a large computational project. To
> them, Seti@home is all about enlarging their e-penis, which is acheived by
> maintaining a high credit count. All it is to them is a nerd pride/ego thing.
> When Seti@home is down, they can't get credit, and thus they get angry.
> These people aren't mad that the scientific ET project isn't going forward -
> they're mad because they aren't able to add to their credit pool.
>
> This would also explain why the same people who scream bloody murder at the
> lack of work units or bugs also resist running the other projects on Boinc.
> As I just said, they don't support the abstract idea of helping a non-profit
> scientific endeavor. They simply want to increase their credit size, and
> running Folding@home or Predictor doesn't increase their Seti@home credit
> count, so they don't want to do it.
>
> They want their Seti@home workunits, and they want them now. That's why there
> are countless threads and posts bemoaning the lack of work units. I'm sure
> there are plenty of people who don't like this for practical reasons (wasted
> electricity, etc), but many (most?) are mad simply that they can't get more
> credit.
>
> I've thought this for awhile, and only now do I feel emboldened enough to say
> it. But, well, it's a bit embarassing. Legions of uptight computer nerds
> agitated because their credit number isn't increasing. If these people were
> really scientific-minded they would run the other Boinc projects any time
> Seti@home was down. But, like I said two times previously, this doesn't
> increase their credit count and thus doesn't help their online nerd ego
> pride.
>
> Perhaps if there was a large, general Boinc credit system these superficial
> clowns would be more open to other projects rather than dwelling on the bugs
> of one project.
>
> Before anyone gets their dorky asses in an uproar, realize I specifically said
> "many (most?)", and not "all Seti@home users", so if you don't fall under this
> category, you can shut up in advance because I'm not talking to you.
>
> Of course, I've probably just angered lots of people. "Let the flaming
> begin", as they say.
>
>

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Message 10332 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 14:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 10137.

Plus, in the paraphrased words of one of the people on the Dev Team, "you are in a for a big surprise when it happens that all of the SETI data collecters in the world are not able to keep up with the demand for workunits." So you might as well get used to it now.

Chris

> Don't give me that "switch to this
> > or that project". I want to work this project.
> >
>
> I completely understand that mindset. I also only want to work for Seti@home,
> and it's the only project my Boinc is attatched to.
>
> However, people who make the voluntary decision to stay a solo-Seti@home
> cruncher need to accept the hard realities of life - it's a beta, and it has
> bugs. As such, when their computer sits idle for lack of work, it's a result
> of THEIR decision to stay commited to only Seti@home, a buggy project with
> limited work units, NOT the fault of the Seti@home people.
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Message 10337 - Posted: 20 Jul 2004, 14:42:42 UTC - in response to Message 10278.

Militant about your SETI cause? Why? You may be right, you may be wrong. Who knows. Just deal with things right now. There is nothing you're going to be able to do to speed up BOINC short of donating powerful server hardware and manpower to UCB, so just keep your pants on and be patient. If you can't do that now, then you are screwed down the road when everything is working smoothly and as fast as possible on Berkeley's end and there is STILL not enough data to go around. Can't handle that? Then you chose the wrong "cause."

Chris

> "You must be some kind of Seti masochist to continue to support a project that
> brings you such woe."
>
> If you'd readmore than jsut the last post.....you see I uninstalled BOINC and
> reinstalled SETI classic.
>
> Yes, I am VERY militant about my SETI cause. I believe in alien life and I
> want to find them before they find us.
>
> Think about the first human explorers. Aliens will be coming here to plunder
> our planet for resources.....not make friends with the "insects" currently
> inhabiting this world.
>
> Face it folks. One alien who can imitate the "miracles" performed in the
> Bible will have this planet handed to him in a hand-basket by the beLIEvers.
>

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Message 12043 - Posted: 24 Jul 2004, 19:39:04 UTC - in response to Message 10203.

Thanks, Lloyd. I can't get in to the site. Just now, maybe later.... I will keep on trying.....


> Thank you for the update and hey, Big Swede, your on the list of top one
> thousand and climbing fast. Check it out:
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> http://www.boincstats.com/stats/sah_Users1.htm
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Message 12161 - Posted: 25 Jul 2004, 1:18:13 UTC

I'm just waiting patiently to get a bit work from SETI. Hopefully I'll get something to work on soon via BOINC.

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Message 12258 - Posted: 25 Jul 2004, 8:08:52 UTC - in response to Message 12161.

> I'm just waiting patiently to get a bit work from SETI. Hopefully I'll get
> something to work on soon via BOINC.
>

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Message 12346 - Posted: 25 Jul 2004, 12:49:34 UTC

SETI@home - 2004-07-25 13:48:34 - No work from project
SETI@home - 2004-07-25 13:48:34 - Deferring communication with project for 1 hours, 0 minutes, and 0 seconds
Again, and again, where is the work-units ??????

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Message 12716 - Posted: 27 Jul 2004, 13:33:52 UTC

I got a ton of CS yesterday....... Thanks!!! Both 'puters are crunching away!! Good jobs Guys!! Can we now get the "Pending Credit" working, too? ;-)
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Message 12723 - Posted: 27 Jul 2004, 13:42:44 UTC - in response to Message 12716.

> I got a ton of CS yesterday....... Thanks!!! Both 'puters are crunching away!!
> Good jobs Guys!! Can we now get the "Pending Credit" working, too? ;-)
> the Only RealBigSwede
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