I was having problems a few days ago and reset the project a couple times. I ended up with multiple assignments for the same computers and did some merges to eliminate the duplication. I still have 2 listings for one computer which I cannot merge, probably because the description is slightly different.

1244153 bainbridge 135.38 59,425.45 GenuineIntel 1143MHz
Pentium Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional Edition, Service Pack 4, (05.00.2195.00)
552737 Bainbridge4 44.35 24,002.20 GenuineIntel
x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 10 995MHz Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional Edition, Service Pack 4, (05.00.2195.00)
1244183 bainbridge 22.86 20.53 GenuineIntel
x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 10 1143MHz Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional Edition, Service Pack 4, (05.00.2195.00)

1244153 and 1244183 are the same computer but I cannot merge them. Is there any way to get around this?

Thanks, Bob B.

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You can't merge computers with different descriptions. Sorry!
You'll have to wait for all of the work results on one of those hosts to work their way through the system and eventually be removed from the active database. Then you can delete the unwanted host. It'll take a while, so be patient.

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But if you delete the "UnWanted Host" have you deleted the Credit that the Host contributed to the project, under your User ID... If the computer name is the SAME it "should" be able to happen... When you are forced to disconnect, it removes the computer identity... Normally caused by some problem, not necesaairaly on the user end...

This is basically WRONG, If the owner of the host can see the computer in their users area, then they "Should" be able to merge it to the Correct Host! This goes along with other problems...

Unfortunately, it does not work that way... Do not delete any "host" that is incorrectly identified... I had issues with the Core Cleint 4.45 and hopefully that is a dead thread... The bottom line was, Yes there it is a Problem No we are not going to fix it... Be Patient until 4.7x is released...

The end result is you have a lot of work that was done that is not connected to an active user... It is a Flaw in the Core Client!

R/

Al

You can't merge computers with different descriptions. Sorry!
You'll have to wait for all of the work results on one of those hosts to work their way through the system and eventually be removed from the active database. Then you can delete the unwanted host. It'll take a while, so be patient.

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But if you delete the "UnWanted Host" have you deleted the Credit that the Host contributed to the project, under your User ID... If the computer name is the SAME it "should" be able to happen... When you are forced to disconnect, it removes the computer identity... Normally caused by some problem, not necesaairaly on the user end...

Pappa, would you please quit spouting errors?
You cannot delete a host that shows work units in the database. When those work units are purged, with the credit firmly in your name, the hosts can and should be deleted. The credit is not lost.

This is basically WRONG, If the owner of the host can see the computer in their users area, then they "Should" be able to merge it to the Correct Host! This goes along with other problems...

So, I should be able to merge the Celeron 2.66GHz with the AMD-K6, just because I can see them both? I think not. Yeah, sometimes you can't merge two instances of the same computer because the description changes. Better that, than being able to merge two completely different boxes.

The end result is you have a lot of work that was done that is not connected to an active user... It is a Flaw in the Core Client!

No, it's a flaw in the understanding of the user at the keyboard. You've got a link to the Wiki in your signature, I suggest you use it to learn about the system you're bashing.

MJ

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I was having problems a few days ago and reset the project a couple times. I ended up with multiple assignments for the same computers and did some merges to eliminate the duplication. I still have 2 listings for one computer which I cannot merge, probably because the description is slightly different.
Thanks, Bob B.

Bob, I'm responding you reaffirm that you have to wait for the results to be deleted from your hosts record before you can delete it. Then Seti will allow you to "delete" your host (remove it from the record). You WILL keep your credit. Just ignore others who are giving you bad advice.

It's important to remember that advice given on these fora are read by more than just the affected user, and so, should be accurate or more people can be lead astray.

Keep crunchin

tony

Just to affirm others, I have deleted a few computers myself, and never lost any credit. Once thier are at 0 WUs, they can be deleted safely.

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You should be aware that there are a couple buglets that can generate new host records in the BOINC Database. I don't recall the details, but there have been some things fixed to try to hold down these problems. Just so you know.

We all want to, at times, the ability to merge computers that we know are the same; the only problem is that BOINC does not think they are the same. So, at times, you cannot merge the computers, you have to wait till their work drops to zero and then delete them.

Sadly, this means we cannot maintain an accurate history of what work has been done by what machine. Also, we lose our lower computer IDs as they keep the highest ID and drop the lower (I would have preferred the opposite). So, the moral here is that if you want to keep track of this type of data you have to do it yourself.

Case in point is that this is one of the things I do with the logs from BOINC View. You can see this in the "Average Procesing Time" page on the old web site. Sad to say my provisioner uses an older version of MySQL and I cannot make one distinction available on the public site.

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Thanks to everyone for the info. I'll patiently wait for the WU's to disappear and then delete the computer.

Bob B.

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I see that you are a member of MENSA, Just a Genius... So unlike the rest of the 99.x percent of the world, who may suffer problems and ask for help, You are all knowing... Normally what that means that you are so enamored with your own Intelligence that you lose Common Sense.. Me I am just Normal and Opinionated... You offered NOTHING Positive with the post... Many users that post here are attempting to offer Something Positive, Users attempting to help Users... It is normally based within some experience "good/bad"... So irrespective of the BAD side effects that I have experienced that caused me to type what I did... I am happy that you can see/know what is happening with my "personal" computers.. You are a Genius! I am happy that you have Never had any of this happen to You! Or what Your resolution was...

So with all the BUGS with BOINC... Which the Forums are littered with... You choose to attack me... Fine, Yes BOINC is a work in progress (for how many years now)...

Go buy two more computers, do Science and KISS OFF! Your "GENIUS" status should be able to afford it... Or better yet, spend your money on a Quad Opteron machine to donate to UCB... Then they can load the Open Source Sun and it will do half the work of all of the Obsolete machines that they are running.. OOPS, that would be common sense...

If People want to Donate then put together a Fund that will allow obtaning new hardware! The Old Sun machines they are running can not handle the load... Technology wise they are 4 Plus years old... Sun has not seen fit to "help"

But if you delete the "UnWanted Host" have you deleted the Credit that the Host contributed to the project, under your User ID... If the computer name is the SAME it "should" be able to happen... When you are forced to disconnect, it removes the computer identity... Normally caused by some problem, not necesaairaly on the user end...

Pappa, would you please quit spouting errors?
You cannot delete a host that shows work units in the database. When those work units are purged, with the credit firmly in your name, the hosts can and should be deleted. The credit is not lost.

This is basically WRONG, If the owner of the host can see the computer in their users area, then they "Should" be able to merge it to the Correct Host! This goes along with other problems...

So, I should be able to merge the Celeron 2.66GHz with the AMD-K6, just because I can see them both? I think not. Yeah, sometimes you can't merge two instances of the same computer because the description changes. Better that, than being able to merge two completely different boxes.

If the Computer is the "SAME" Computer, you "SHOULD" be able to merge it... Sorry is is NOT A BUG, it is an Undocumented Feature... Yes computers have identities... It has been documented that "Things Happen" that create "New Instances" for the "SAME COMPUTER" and yes it is not a BUG, just an Undocumented Feature... IT Does not work despite what the User wants... UCB appears to Not Care, they only want users donating TIME, Electricity and Computers

The end result is you have a lot of work that was done that is not connected to an active user... It is a Flaw in the Core Client!

No, it's a flaw in the understanding of the user at the keyboard. You've got a link to the Wiki in your signature, I suggest you use it to learn about the system you're bashing.

Bashing UCB is easy! Just Shooting Fish in a Barrel... They leave so many Openings that it is pathetic... Paul and Crew have attempted to reduce the problems that Users experience... I have spent a "bit" of time researching what does not work... Wiki provides the Documentation that UCB does not have time to "properly" do... It also is a work in progress, everything that UCB sometimes means that whole sections need revision...

MJ

So for the users, think about the fund to get a REAL Server under UCB... Sun does not care inspite of having a Favored Advertising postion... It has been stated by knowledgable users can no longer find technical references to the Servers that are running the project...

HP is delivering Servers that run Opteron's and Nix derivatives..

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Thanks to everyone for the info. I'll patiently wait for the WU's to disappear and then delete the computer.

Bob,

Just bear in mind that, at times, the BOINC system software does not delete the last result for some time. Which can be highly annoying for those of us that can be "neat" freaks. And yes, this could also be considered a bug of huge proportions, or, just a minor annoyance.

A perfect excuse to spend some time reading the Wiki as you wait ... :)

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A perfect excuse to spend some time reading the Wiki as you wait ... :)

Paul, you're insatiable :-P

Half of us already bear the Wiki link in our Sigs...

And - how right you are!

:-)= Greybeard

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Thanks so much for your opinions. They'll be given all the consideration they merit. As for me, when questions arise I'll sitck to the facts about BOINC, SETI@Home, and yes, Mensa.

MJ

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Thank You Paul

Fortunately I will be off for a couple of days, fixing server problems that can be fixed...

After having spent several hundreds of hours helping Users recover from I just deleted something "important" that should not have been "deleted," Alarm Bells Go Off! Yes I do have a machine that can not be merged, and still has credit pending...

Yes, there is a lot of Information in BOINC Wiki; Tip of the Hat to Paul and Crew

Thanks to everyone for the info. I'll patiently wait for the WU's to disappear and then delete the computer.

Bob,

Just bear in mind that, at times, the BOINC system software does not delete the last result for some time. Which can be highly annoying for those of us that can be "neat" freaks. And yes, this could also be considered a bug of huge proportions, or, just a minor annoyance.

A perfect excuse to spend some time reading the Wiki as you wait ... :)

R/

Al

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MJ

I do not at this point mean to be derogatory, the group should be able to help with a solution... That solution would not only help the Seti Community (or the larger BOINC Community) but help that which "MENSA" appears to support...

Surely all of the members of MENSA, could donate knowledge or a couple of bucks towards a New Server (Seti) that could resolve Many Problems...

Many are there to offer advice or opinions, but where is the true support?

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Thanks so much for your opinions. They'll be given all the consideration they merit. As for me, when questions arise I'll sitck to the facts about BOINC, SETI@Home, and yes, Mensa.

MJ

R/

Al

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