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Any news on the classic SETI migration?
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Ed and Harriet Griffith Send message Joined: 10 Apr 99 Posts: 127 Credit: 226,261 RAC: 0 |
I know seti has been really busy with all the recent problems, but I was wondering if any progress had been made about the migration. Last we heard they were transfering classic seti tapes to a boinc seti format and it was difficult to estimate progress because each tape had a different amount of information. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34257 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I know seti has been really busy with all the recent problems, but I was wondering if any progress had been made about the migration. Last we heard they were transfering classic seti tapes to a boinc seti format and it was difficult to estimate progress because each tape had a different amount of information. Hi Look here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/transition.php Account creation on classic is disabled. Matt wrote that they are produceing not enough results to close classic yet. But they are working on it. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Ed and Harriet Griffith Send message Joined: 10 Apr 99 Posts: 127 Credit: 226,261 RAC: 0 |
I take it you mean not enough BOINC seti units to crunch to keep everyone happy. I am just curious as I think freeing up all the resources for BOINC SETI will make the job easier in the long run even if both classic and BOINC seti have to close down for a few weeks. We will survive if they do. After all, one purpose of BOINC is to have alternative projects for when one project temporairily shuts down. Thanks for the reply! Account creation on classic is disabled. Matt wrote that they are produceing not enough results to close classic yet. But they are working on it. greetz Mike [/quote] |
Ocean Archer Send message Joined: 11 Jun 04 Posts: 148 Credit: 504,219 RAC: 0 |
Ed & Harriett .. and Mike -- If one looks at the stats with respect to how many active users are doing SETI work, you find that BOINC based workers (SETI II) currently (July 24, 2005) number about 160,000, while SETIclassic workers number about about 300,000 (same date). That being said, sometime down the road there is gonna be one tremendous increase in the demand for SETI II WorkUnits (WUs). I just hope there is enough room in SETI II for all of us ... |
Jim Baize Send message Joined: 6 May 00 Posts: 758 Credit: 149,536 RAC: 0 |
Did the bump in the road from last weekend not teach you anything? Look at all the whinning and complaining we had last weekend when people couldn't upload results. Just imagine what it would be like if they shut Seti/BOINC down ENTIRELY! people would riot. There would be destruction in the streets. World governments would be overthrown. The earth would be knocked off its axis and the sun would collapse into a black hole. I take it you mean not enough BOINC seti units to crunch to keep everyone happy. I am just curious as I think freeing up all the resources for BOINC SETI will make the job easier in the long run even if both classic and BOINC seti have to close down for a few weeks. We will survive if they do. After all, one purpose of BOINC is to have alternative projects for when one project temporairily shuts down. Thanks for the reply! |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
The earth would be knocked off its axis and the sun would collapse into a black hole. Now that would be fine for Einstein, it should give them their long awaited gravitational waves ;) Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34257 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
The earth would be knocked off its axis and the sun would collapse into a black hole. Please forgot einstein. This project is most user unfriendly biggest difference in deadline and crunchtime. In my opinion the only reason of long term debt. I detached all machines on einstein. They have only 50000 users and are not able to handle the server load. I´m not negative normally but i tried many times to understand but i give up. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Jim Baize Send message Joined: 6 May 00 Posts: 758 Credit: 149,536 RAC: 0 |
To each his own. I happen to like Einstein and enjoy crunching numbers for thier project. Jim The earth would be knocked off its axis and the sun would collapse into a black hole. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34257 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Hi No probs. Your choice. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Pooh Bear 27 Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0 |
And ET would finally show up to fix us? Did the bump in the road from last weekend not teach you anything? Look at all the whinning and complaining we had last weekend when people couldn't upload results. Just imagine what it would be like if they shut Seti/BOINC down ENTIRELY! people would riot. There would be destruction in the streets. World governments would be overthrown. The earth would be knocked off its axis and the sun would collapse into a black hole. My movie https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/502242 |
Ed and Harriet Griffith Send message Joined: 10 Apr 99 Posts: 127 Credit: 226,261 RAC: 0 |
Ed & Harriett .. and Mike -- Last time I checked (many years ago) classic seti was stuck at about 50,000 active users though they had many more total users. I thought you meant classic seti had 300,000 total users, but when I went to check classic seti just now, I was surprised they had 300,000 active users. WOW! I have already not taken any new work from BOINC seti until after the migration is complete and things are settled. The seti folks are great, but there may be no way to do this that will satisfy everyone. Closing down for two weeks (or whatever it would take) would result in much anguish and seti would open up again with many problems, BUT at least 100% of the resources could be focused on BOINC seti. Until we move to BOINC SETI I fear we are stuck and can't move on to any new projects such as sending the data from Arcibo by land line instead of mailing magnetic tapes or trying a new telescope. |
RossM Send message Joined: 5 Apr 02 Posts: 37 Credit: 36,921 RAC: 0 |
Did the bump in the road from last weekend not teach you anything? Look at all the whinning and complaining we had last weekend when people couldn't upload results. Just imagine what it would be like if they shut Seti/BOINC down ENTIRELY! people would riot. There would be destruction in the streets. World governments would be overthrown. The earth would be knocked off its axis and the sun would collapse into a black hole. No cheerleaders please. |
kinhull Send message Joined: 3 Oct 03 Posts: 1029 Credit: 636,475 RAC: 0 |
Did the bump in the road from last weekend not teach you anything? Look at all the whinning and complaining we had last weekend when people couldn't upload results. Just imagine what it would be like if they shut Seti/BOINC down ENTIRELY! people would riot. There would be destruction in the streets. World governments would be overthrown. The earth would be knocked off its axis and the sun would collapse into a black hole. More cheerleaders please, IMHO Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. |
The Pirate Send message Joined: 14 Apr 00 Posts: 191 Credit: 4,929,008 RAC: 0 |
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MattDavis Send message Joined: 11 Nov 99 Posts: 919 Credit: 934,161 RAC: 0 |
I'm a cheerleader! Just looking at my sig I see that I've done a lot of work for 1) the search for ET; 2) predicting climate change; 3) something to do with gravity; 4) protiens doing stuff; and 5) the biggest particle accelerator in the world! I get a great sense of satisfaction knowing that I can help science with my motley crew of new and old computer boxes! ----- |
David Stites Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 286 Credit: 10,113,361 RAC: 0 |
As I said a couple of weeks ago, SetiAtHome was only supposed to last 2 years. It is now going on 6 years and has evolved into BOINC which is a much better use of the Internet than stealing music. These people can be proud of what they have done for their science and the whole world. I for one am content to let them run it and just tell me what I can do to help. The most important resource for good leaders to have is good followers. Keep it up!! David David Stites Pullman, WA USA |
Pascal, K G Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2343 Credit: 150,491 RAC: 0 |
Rah RAH sis boom bah BOINC BOINC BOINC............... Semper Eadem So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride. Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No. |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
Can we have a moderator delete the inappropriate posts? We have no need of that kind of language here ... thank you ... |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
Can we have a moderator delete the inappropriate posts? We have no need of that kind of language here ... thank you ... I sent an email off to Rom. The offending posts have now disappeared. BOINC WIKI |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
Thanks ... |
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