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Nino Dal Borgo Send message Joined: 12 Dec 00 Posts: 8 Credit: 134,704,070 RAC: 15,558	Message 138437 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 19:23:45 UTC
	Not everybody has a top-class PC. They are always at the limit for the report deadline. If the upload will not start working in the next days (it has problems since one week) many contributors will report their results too late... They will see their perfect valid results, terminated within the time limit, granted no credit at all And then, hell will open!!! ____________
	ID: 138437 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9427 Credit: 2,173,743 RAC: 2,653	Message 138442 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 19:29:00 UTC
	Let the gates be open then. As its been discussed in previous threads, SETI is still in "testing" phases, so theres going to be problems. Nothing is 100% perfect. Computers are not 100% perfect. Some results are getting through as some have said again in other threads, and most are not. And those that won't get credit, yeah, they will complain, but as its been said, those WU's will come back out eventually. Yeah, many will say "Geez, all this time that my computer spent went down the drain, I won't get no credit for all that work." I say, oh well, it happens, its happend before, and chances are, it will happen again. Something that we have to live with here. Just my 2 cents, so fire away. ____________
	ID: 138442 ·

Bill Barto Send message Joined: 28 Jun 99 Posts: 859 Credit: 12,071,697 RAC: 16,635	Message 138445 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 19:31:55 UTC
	Being at the limit has nothing to do with the class of the PC. It has to do with how large a cache people maintain. Mine is only a few days and I have no worries yet about missing any deadlines. Results get through every once in awhile. As long as the downloads keep coming so I can keep processing I have no problems.
	ID: 138445 ·

Neil Walker Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 288 Credit: 18,101,056 RAC: 0	Message 138454 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 19:58:07 UTC - in response to Message 138445.
	Being at the limit has nothing to do with the class of the PC. It has to do with how large a cache people maintain. Of all the stupid statements I have read on this forum, that has to be the winner. It does not matter what cache people maintain if the crunching time is one day over the limit on a particular machine/project combination. ____________ Be lucky Neil
	ID: 138454 ·

John Hunt Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 521 Credit: 350,255 RAC: 0	Message 138462 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 20:07:50 UTC
	'Fraid I may have a too laid -back attitude ref. the uploading probs. But as far as I'm concerned, I'm keeping a very small cache of WUs. And I'm not 'clogging' the system by 'forcing' the uploads. I have other projects to keep my CPU busy...... Let the guys at Berkeley sort out the probs. without any extra pressure from us 'crunchers'. (As far as I'm aware, they are, after all, volunteers!) ____________
	ID: 138462 ·

Oler Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 5 Credit: 458,125 RAC: 0	Message 138463 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 20:11:14 UTC
	Just to see and says... we are all 1999's users. ;-) ____________
	ID: 138463 ·

Tomas Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 124 Credit: 205,874 RAC: 0	Message 138469 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 20:22:29 UTC - in response to Message 138442.
	SETI is still in "testing" phases. New stupidity record for the cheerleaders. It has ben up for 7 years moron ____________
	ID: 138469 ·

Ron Send message Joined: 17 Feb 00 Posts: 4 Credit: 337,914 RAC: 287	Message 138476 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 20:28:46 UTC
	I'm as patient as any man, but this new system sucks! I was crunching seti units without a problem for 5 years until I updatad my processor and switched over. I have been trying to crunch seti units for 5 weeks now, but it will download one only in it's own sweet time. For the past 2 weeks it keeps telling me that I've reached my 1 unit quota for the day. As far as I know all the units it has trickled to my PC have been worked and results uploaded (until this weekend). Now it sits with no units to crunch since Friday because I've reached my 1 unit per day quota! Okay, so there may be a problem this weekend, but this whole system is too buggy to waste time on. I've considered going back to the CLASSIC SETI, but what use if this new system is typical of the program? ____________
	ID: 138476 ·

Pascal, K G Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2343 Credit: 150,491 RAC: 0	Message 138480 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 20:30:55 UTC - in response to Message 138469. Last modified: 18 Jul 2005, 20:43:58 UTC
	SETI is still in "testing" phases. New stupidity record for the cheerleaders. It has ben up for 7 years moron MY my we are still on the personal attacks and Seti started April 1999 just over 6 years ago.....But was not online until May..... First log on Tech page...... May 18, 2004 SETI@home turned five years old yesterday. Congratulations and thanks to all concerned. Our search continues! Fifth Birthday see above....... ____________ Semper Eadem So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride. Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.
	ID: 138480 ·

Ageless Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 11767 Credit: 2,077,497 RAC: 2,320	Message 138487 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 20:36:59 UTC - in response to Message 138476.
	As far as I know all the units it has trickled to my PC have been worked and results uploaded (until this weekend). Sorry Ron, something must've gone wrong somewhere. You've been missing deadlines. 3 on the 9th of July, 5 on the 11th, 4 on the 16th, one on the 17th and 2 on the 18th. Due to some error in the server software someplace, missing a deadline doesn't drop your quota by one anymore, it drops you to one unit a day. Yet for each unit returned correctly, your quota goes up, until you lose a deadline again (for whatever reason, may be totally beyond your fault, just getting the Ghost WUs.). Then you're back at one unit a day and have to start all over again. Nothing that can be done about that, until the error's been found and dealt with. ____________ Jord - BOINC FAQ Service - BOINC User Wiki Real is just a matter of perception.
	ID: 138487 ·

Ron Send message Joined: 17 Feb 00 Posts: 4 Credit: 337,914 RAC: 287	Message 138509 - Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 20:50:48 UTC
	Guilty as charged! In the beginning when I saw the message "...exited with zero status but no 'finished' file...If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project." I read the "may need to" as "must" and dutifully reset the project. Then I learned that this was a no-no, that some units would be lost (they must be the ones timing out). So I quit doing that. Still, the 1 quota for the day kept following me... I'll try to be patient...a while longer... ____________
	ID: 138509 ·

Jim Baize Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 May 00 Posts: 758 Credit: 132,223 RAC: 0	Message 138715 - Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 1:42:30 UTC - in response to Message 138454.
	It does matter a lot how big a persons cache is. The longer a WU sits in a cache waiting to be processed lowers the amount of time it has to be uploaded and validated. If it sits in the que waiting to be processed for 14 days, then it has no time to be uploaded. Jim Of all the stupid statements I have read on this forum, that has to be the winner. It does not matter what cache people maintain if the crunching time is one day over the limit on a particular machine/project combination. ____________
	ID: 138715 ·

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