This is NOT fun anymore
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 Geek@Play  Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 
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First let me state for the record that I have always been one of the despised cheerleaders. I run boinc/seti on several machines as a hobby and for the fun of it. This is not fun anymore!! Watching my machines download sometimes and constantly failing on the uploads has ceased to be fun anymore. This is not fun anymore!! Watching the upload que growing by the hour and failing is not fun anymore!!. I don’t know the reasons and don’t claim to know. All I know is that it is broken and has been broken for some time now. This is not fun anymore!! As per usual there is little to no information coming from the developers who seem to delight in keeping the volunteer crunchers in the dark. I mean how long does it take to add another paragraph to the front page? The last update was 2 days ago! Can’t anybody spare those few minutes even on a weekend?This is not fun anymore!! I’ll say it again This is not fun anymore!! DOES ANY DEVELOPER KNOW WHY?? ANY DEVELOPER CARE ENOUGH TO RESPOND WITH A QUICK NOTE TO US LOW LIFE VOLUNTEER CRUNCHERS?? Maybe I should just quit watching the machines and get a life. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... ID: 138037 ·  |
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SCREAMING EAGLE Send message Joined: 24 Jan 04 Posts: 28 Credit: 268,976 RAC: 0
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Welcome to the club cheerleader, now stop whining, it will get fixed ect ect ect ect. ID: 138042 · |
MJKelleher  Send message Joined: 1 Jul 99 Posts: 2048 Credit: 1,575,401 RAC: 0
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Maybe I should just quit watching the machines and get a life. There's the key. I peek at my transfer list (now at 5 SETI and 1 SETIBeta, there's been some successes to offset the new units). Then, leave it alone while I go do other things... Spent the afternoon and evening with a musical theater company, selling tickets, watching the show, tearing down the set and moving it out. Away from the computer! My suggestion, monitor it, sure, but get a life! Find something fun to do! Let the developers have a weekend, and a life, and do things that are fun! When they get back on Monday morning, they'll be looking at the problem, and eventually fix it. The work will get uploaded. Credit will be applied (or not). Progress will be made. Chill out! (and if you do, would you send some of that chill up here? The humidity is killing me! 8-)  ID: 138043 · |
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Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0
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WOW...glad I got that off my chest. Computers are still busted though! Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... ID: 138044 · |
RichaG  Send message Joined: 20 May 99 Posts: 1690 Credit: 19,287,294 RAC: 36
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This is not fun anymore!! This is not fun anymore!! is not fun anymore!! This is not fun anymore!! This is not fun anymore!! I’ll say it again This is not fun anymore!! You seem to keep repeating yourself. Contrary to you, the developers do have a life. They don't work on the weekend. Red Bull Air Racing Gas price by zip at Seti 
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Astro  Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
I haven't heard a peep from the devs this weekend either. I have recieved Emails from Dr. Anderson after 8 PM PST, and I have on Several weekends seen Emails from Rom Walton on Weekends. One was even after 10 PM PST on Sunday. So, they do work some weekends (however, Rom is probably 800 miles from the lab). ID: 138051 · |
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David C Thompson Send message Joined: 1 Jun 05 Posts: 27 Credit: 90,446 RAC: 0
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I second the "stop worrying and it'll work itself out" approach. There are plenty of BOINC projects that need crunching time and SETI will come around eventually. After all, we've been waiting 10,000+ years to make contact with other planets, another day or two won't kill anyone. <a href="http://www.davidcthompson.com">David Thompson</a>, Intellectual Property Law <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/slaps/">Stanford Law and Policy Society</a> ID: 138060 · |
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Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0
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Thanks for the kind words everyone. Got my mind back on the right track now. As you say and as I already know, things will work out, credit will arrive whenever, like always. But wow...this has been going on for what...5 or 6 days now...but I digress. It is much my own fault since I only run Seti. It's the only project that really interests me. I will be really happy when PlanetQuest comes online. Anyway thanks again. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... ID: 138081 · |
Pooh Bear 27  Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0
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There is actually a note on the main page that states there is a problem, that they knew Friday, and they are working on fixing it. The uploads are mostly the problem. Uploads happen, but the packets are getting dropped, and they are currently unsure why. The notices was done late Friday, and with a weekend it will take them time to fix. Hope you do not leave. Seti is awesome. Some of us are glad to be here, even with the problems that have happened. I am happily crunching Seti data, and have several to send back, when it becomes fixed. Now remember, when it does get fixed, the systems will be bogged down with everyone finally trying to get their data in, so it could still take a couple days to finally clean up. It was a warm Sunday here, maybe a little heat got under the collar, and just made a little rage fly? I hope that's all it was. Keep smiling. It makes your enemies wonder what you are thinking!  My movie https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/502242 ID: 138085 · |
The Gas Giant  Send message Joined: 22 Nov 01 Posts: 1904 Credit: 2,646,654 RAC: 0 
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Geek@Play Since you appear to be like myself and micro-manage boinc. Just sit there and keep hitting the update or retry button, that's what I did just after I attached a second computer and I was able to get some new work. It did take a while, but then what else was I supposed to do on a Saturday night, sort my sock drawer? hehehehe ;) Live long and crunch. Paul (S@H1 8888)    And proud of it!
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Mad Max  Send message Joined: 16 Mar 00 Posts: 475 Credit: 213,231,775 RAC: 407
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It seems that all of us know that the guys at the seti lab suffer from both hardware and software problems. I would be interested to know what the ideal solution would be to help solve the hardware problems (ie. We need this, this and this so that everything functions the way it should) since most of the software problems can only be fixed by them. Could some one from seti give us an idea of what we could do to help (Please, not with the easy answer: $$$)? Crunching is as fun as you make it. Mike IAS - Where Space Is Golden!  
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Alexander Lazar  Send message Joined: 11 Apr 03 Posts: 16 Credit: 448,266 RAC: 0
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WOW...glad I got that off my chest. Computers are still busted though! A suggestion for a Sunday night: go read Frank Drake's book. In it he says that SETI should never be your primary focus. You'll go nuts if it is, because you probably won't find ET and in the meantime life will pass you by. So if you do SETI, then do it as a piggyback on other "serious" radio astronomy so you can at least be publishing papers every now and then. Hint: This Is Also Why S@H Was Designed As A Background Process. Think about it: You do other stuff, and your computer searches for ET in the background. Fun? Yes, so long as it stays in the background... Hope that helps. Tony ID: 138124 · |
barbarossa  Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 1294 Credit: 6,629,998 RAC: 3 
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It seems that all of us know that the guys at the seti lab suffer from both hardware and software problems. I would be interested to know what the ideal solution would be to help solve the hardware problems (ie. We need this, this and this so that everything functions the way it should) since most of the software problems can only be fixed by them. Could some one from seti give us an idea of what we could do to help (Please, not with the easy answer: $$$)? Just my 2cts: Not only is "$$$" an easy answer, it's the only one - I fear... :-)= Greybeard All about BOINC: BOINC-Wiki (by Paul D. Buck)  ID: 138146 · |
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Warren Send message Joined: 13 Dec 00 Posts: 16 Credit: 57,768 RAC: 0 
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Ahh it is fun at least most of the time. I am a small timer and only have 1 and half computers silently chuning over the numbers in the background, but have been doing this for 5 or 6 years, and all I want from it is to beat my team mates, (and of course to have Rashaverak or 1 of the other Overlords {Childhood's End} come a knocking on my door, Arthur C Clarke hooked me into Sci-Fi). I don't really care if they take a day or a week to solve the problems, I know that I have heaps of disk space to store the results. But this break has lead me to discover the Einstein program, and they have a way better sceen saver. And david is quite correct when he says; "After all, we've been waiting 10,000+ years to make contact with other planets, another day or two won't kill anyone." A simple country boy waiting for... ID: 138164 · |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13731 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304
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I would be interested to know what the ideal solution would be to help solve the hardware problems (ie. We need this, this and this so that everything functions the way it should) Shut down Seti Classic & then all that hardware will be available for Seti BOINC to use. Grant Darwin NT ID: 138167 · |
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softweir Send message Joined: 4 Sep 04 Posts: 8 Credit: 63,357 RAC: 0 
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Shut down Seti Classic & then all that hardware will be available for Seti BOINC to use. BUT.... During the transition all the SETI Classic users will overload the SETI Boinc systems! ID: 138177 · |
Browny  Send message Joined: 22 Sep 99 Posts: 33 Credit: 814,772 RAC: 0 
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There is actually a note on the main page that states there is a problem, that they knew Friday, and they are working on fixing it. The uploads are mostly the problem. Uploads happen, but the packets are getting dropped, and they are currently unsure why. The notices was done late Friday, and with a weekend it will take them time to fix. Hoi Pohh Bear, You say the words and I'm fully agree with it, hope that more people will read it and indeed will keep smiling, after all, it was very warm last sunday. Keep on crunching and the upload problem will be solved anyhow. Greetz, Browny 
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m.mitch  Send message Joined: 27 Jun 01 Posts: 338 Credit: 127,769 RAC: 0
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First let me state for the record that I have always been one of the despised cheerleaders. I run boinc/seti on several machines as a hobby and for the fun of it. This is not fun anymore!! Thankyou, Thought I may have been the only one. Mike Click here to join the #1 Aussie Alliance in SETI ID: 138186 · |
[B^S] madmac  Send message Joined: 9 Feb 04 Posts: 1175 Credit: 4,754,897 RAC: 0
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I agree it is not fun anymore even downloads are not downloading been waiting for one to download since yesterday. So it is not uploads even though they have been hard to get through I am only getting one a day uploaded if I am lucky. 
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Siran d'Vel'nahr  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Shut down Seti Classic & then all that hardware will be available for Seti BOINC to use. Shut down the account activation/creation until the hardware is transistioned. >:-) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath ID: 138227 · |
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