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scatter Send message Joined: 25 May 05 Posts: 10 Credit: 33,168 RAC: 0 |
Just curious, what motivates those of you that hide your computers? You do realize your IP is only visible to YOU when you're logged in, and SETI@HOME already has your IP, not to mention if you have a router it would only be your internal IP anyway!! I think seeing what machines other participants have is 1/2 the fun of SETI. comments? |
Qui-Gon Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11 |
Just curious, what motivates those of you that hide your computers? You do realize your IP is only visible to YOU when you're logged in, and SETI@HOME already has your IP. I think seeing what machines other participants have is 1/2 the fun of SETI. comments? Security has always been a concern for many SETI crunchers both at Classic and here under BOINC. I understand your curiosity, but I'm not willing to reveal anything more than is necessary to efficiently run the project. In all that I have read about the security of this project, no one has ever said that showing my computer(s) is a security risk, but why should I chance it? Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think your curiosity is a good reason to take even a very small risk. |
scatter Send message Joined: 25 May 05 Posts: 10 Credit: 33,168 RAC: 0 |
I'm very interested in computer security myself. What about what hardware you have would make you vulnerable. You're not revealing processes, port numbers, or IP's. |
Qui-Gon Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11 |
I'm very interested in computer security myself. What about what hardware you have would make you vulnerable. You're not revealing processes, port numbers, or IP's. I don't have the technical expertise to argue about this, but my limitied understanding of the discussions over at Number Crunching (months ago) on this topic has made me cautious. In fact, as I am not very well versed in the area of security and I prefer to lean towards not taking a risk. If you want to discuss the technical aspects of the issue, the Number Crunching forum is probably a good place. |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Just curious, what motivates those of you that hide your computers? You do realize your IP is only visible to YOU when you're logged in, and SETI@HOME already has your IP, not to mention if you have a router it would only be your internal IP anyway!! I think seeing what machines other participants have is 1/2 the fun of SETI. comments? The reason I have my computer hidden is not something I want to share with you! And it's not because of the reasons you mention! When you think seeing other participants computers is half of the fun, they are really not hidden for you! If you take a single WU, you can see the other computers that have been assigned to that WU. There you can compare and see the others computers! You can't go directly to my account and see my computer, because you're just curious, but you can see it through the WU's I crunch! But I don't mind to tell you this: CPU type GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz Number of CPUs 1 Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) Memory 503.36 MB Cache 976.56 KB Swap space 1230.03 MB Total disk space 37.25 GB Free Disk Space 27.56 GB 09-07-2005 01:21:58||Running CPU benchmarks 09-07-2005 01:22:55||Benchmark results: 09-07-2005 01:22:55|| Number of CPUs: 1 09-07-2005 01:22:55|| 1376 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 09-07-2005 01:22:55|| 2704 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU 09-07-2005 01:22:55||Finished CPU benchmarks "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Aha Fuzzball, are you one of them Anonymous persons ;) |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Aha Fuzzball, are you one of them Anonymous persons ;) Yep! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
STE\/E Send message Joined: 29 Mar 03 Posts: 1137 Credit: 5,334,063 RAC: 0 |
I think seeing what machines other participants have is 1/2 the fun of SETI. comments? ========== And the other 1/2 is Hiding them from people like you ... ;) |
Dominique Send message Joined: 3 Mar 05 Posts: 1628 Credit: 74,745 RAC: 0 |
Look all you want. No secrets, nothing to reveal of any real value, nothing to hide and we're not paranoid about it. You want to know what car I drive too? |
scatter Send message Joined: 25 May 05 Posts: 10 Credit: 33,168 RAC: 0 |
I think seeing what machines other participants have is 1/2 the fun of SETI. comments? man, I've heard of people hiding porn from their parents but how you use your CPU cycles! Time to move out of the basement! Being curious about what OS ppl run, and their computer hardware isn't comparable to inquiring about what type of car you drive. I guess someone could stalk you by knowing you have a ford pinto, but knowing that you run windoze ME on your dad's packard bell doesn't do much for me. I think alot of you have illusions of grandeur and or unmerited paranoia! |
Dominique Send message Joined: 3 Mar 05 Posts: 1628 Credit: 74,745 RAC: 0 |
You want to know what car I drive too? Oh BTW, I drive a Jag S-Type and the Mrs. a T-Bird. |
scatter Send message Joined: 25 May 05 Posts: 10 Credit: 33,168 RAC: 0 |
You want to know what car I drive too? Compensating? did you feel that insecure after my Pinto joke that you felt the need to divulge what kind of cars you drive? You don't hide your computer anyway in your profile, so your just arguing for the sake of arguing I guess. Go polish your wifes' Jag & T-bird. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
And you talk about a nice attitude? |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
You asked a question about hiding computers, because as you said it yourself, it is funny for you to see other peoples computers, which I answered kindly in a post above. You gave this answer to me over in Numbers, where I pointed out that you post redundant and I linked to my answer above. I think you have a very rude attitude to people here, also judged from your response to the two above posts! Who do you think you are? You come here and ask questions and demand answers, and when people give you answers after their own decisions, you start to insult them! This is a very bad attitude you show here! And, BTW, please meet Mr. Ignore! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Neil Woodvine Send message Joined: 22 Nov 02 Posts: 49 Credit: 429,050 RAC: 0 |
... Being curious about what OS ppl run, and their computer hardware isn't comparable to inquiring about what type of car you drive. I guess someone could stalk you by knowing you have a ford pinto, but knowing that you run windoze ME on your dad's packard bell doesn't do much for me. I think alot of you have illusions of grandeur and or unmerited paranoia! You might like this Stats by OS/CPU per project,average shoe size etc =) |
STE\/E Send message Joined: 29 Mar 03 Posts: 1137 Credit: 5,334,063 RAC: 0 |
but knowing that you run windoze ME on your dad's packard bell doesn't do much for me ========== Well running windoze on my dad's packard bell has done quite well for me ... |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
I think seeing what machines other participants have is 1/2 the fun of SETI. comments? Such a: <p align="center">N O O B !</p> Just get OVER it. People are gonna hide their computers, others aren't [probably because they don't know how to]. Why does it bother you so much? Why do you care what computers I have attached? I don't care about yours. Let's see, have you figured out how to hide yours yet....? CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
Just curious, what motivates those of you that hide your computers? Because I can? :) |
Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0 |
People are gonna hide their computers, others aren't [probably because they don't know how to]. I'll bet more people simply don't care. There is no security risk, so why bother? |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
People are gonna hide their computers, others aren't [probably because they don't know how to]. I do it because I choose to and as long as I am not asking for help then it's my choice. |
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