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Message 133948 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 21:21:32 UTC

my current comp is a new gateway intel p4 3.2 ghz with ht 200g hd 1g ram. i also have an old dell 400 mhz. i want to connect them for more crunching power. how do i do this? a cable? i dont want to get wireless unless its drastically better. im hooked to the internet through a cable connection. whenthey are hooked up how do i control one or the other. this is a new area for me i need lots of help. thanks for any help you offer. peace
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Message 133961 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 21:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 133948.  

Hey Greg, what do you actually mean by "connect them for more crunching power"?
If you want to use several pc's for crunching one wu simultaneously, I think OpenMosix- or Beowulf-clustering is what you're looking for.
I've never tried, but as far as I know clustering involves huge knowledge in Linux. I think I've read somewhere about a person that clustered several old pentium-IIs but finally decided they consumpted to much electricity compared to a somewhat newer machine that needed the same time for crunching a wu.

Hope that helped,

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Message 133972 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:08:13 UTC

Dan, I think he just wants to build up a small home LAN, in which every pc can connect to the internet, and hasn't a LAN ever before.

Greg, if you don't want to go wireless, you have to connect those two pcs with a network cable.

The easiest way is to get a network hub or a switch. Small ones up to 4 ports (connectors) are not expensive.
Or you have to connect them using a special crossover network cable without using a hub/switch.

Your first (current) pc is connected through a cable connection.
Well, here in germany we don't use this method very often, so I cannot help you out with this one.
Bur I can tell you how I am connected with three comps:
I have a DSL line to the internet at which a DSL-router with integrated switch is attached.
To this DSL-router I have attached all my three comps.
The router is making the connection to the internet and share this connection to all of my comps.
So no comp has any driver or third party software installed that controlles the internet connection, only my dsl-router does this job.

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Message 133973 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 133961.  

Hey Greg, what do you actually mean by "connect them for more crunching power"?
If you want to use several pc's for crunching one wu simultaneously, I think OpenMosix- or Beowulf-clustering is what you're looking for.
I've never tried, but as far as I know clustering involves huge knowledge in Linux. I think I've read somewhere about a person that clustered several old pentium-IIs but finally decided they consumpted to much electricity compared to a somewhat newer machine that needed the same time for crunching a wu.

Hope that helped,

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i mean when i look up my other team members i see they have several computers "linked" each has there own rac and totals .right now all i can figure is that they have wireless internet service and a different account for each to seti. thanks dan!
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Message 133975 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:13:39 UTC - in response to Message 133972.  

Dan, I think he just wants to build up a small home LAN, in which every pc can connect to the internet, and hasn't a LAN ever before.

Greg, if you don't want to go wireless, you have to connect those two pcs with a network cable.

The easiest way is to get a network hub or a switch. Small ones up to 4 ports (connectors) are not expensive.
Or you have to connect them using a special crossover network cable without using a hub/switch.

Your first (current) pc is connected through a cable connection.
Well, here in germany we don't use this method very often, so I cannot help you out with this one.
Bur I can tell you how I am connected with three comps:
I have a DSL line to the internet at which a DSL-router with integrated switch is attached.
To this DSL-router I have attached all my three comps.
The router is making the connection to the internet and share this connection to all of my comps.
So no comp has any driver or third party software installed that controlles the internet connection, only my dsl-router does this job.

Andy
thanks andy peace

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Message 133976 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:14:00 UTC
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Is your dell attatched to the internet?

If it is, you d/l the BOINC client and put in your user key and the project URL.

If it is NOT, the you will have to set up a way for it to connect. This will involve (probably) you getting either a router or a switch. These would go behind your cable modem, and would allow both of the computers to connect to the internet on the same cable connection.


The set up will look somehting like this:



Does this help?
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Message 133979 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:17:38 UTC - in response to Message 133973.  

i mean when i look up my other team members i see they have several computers "linked" each has there own rac and totals.


If you can establish a internet connection with you 2nd pc, then you can install BOINC and attach to the project (i.e. s@h) you want by entering the same project URL and account key you used with your first computer.
BOINC will recognize the 2nd computer and give it it's own WUs, RACs and credits.
Your account then has two computers both together will contribute to your account credits.

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Message 133981 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:19:52 UTC - in response to Message 133976.  

Is your dell attatched to the internet?

If it is, you d/l the BOINC client and put in your user key and the project URL.

If it is NOT, the you will have to set up a way for it to connect. This will involve (probably) you getting either a router or a switch. These would go behind your cable modem, and would allow both of the computers to connect to the internet on the same cable connection.


The set up will look somehting like this:



Does this help?

yes thanks anyone that posts with their knowledge helps im narrowing down my options thanks again
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Message 133983 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 133981.  

Is your dell attatched to the internet?

If it is, you d/l the BOINC client and put in your user key and the project URL.

If it is NOT, the you will have to set up a way for it to connect. This will involve (probably) you getting either a router or a switch. These would go behind your cable modem, and would allow both of the computers to connect to the internet on the same cable connection.


The set up will look somehting like this:



Does this help?

yes thanks anyone that posts with their knowledge helps im narrowing down my options thanks again

and by the way every time i answer a post why is every message reposted? is it because i click add my sig to this reply?

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Message 133987 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:29:46 UTC

If you click on the link "Reply to this post" the whole message is quoted...

If you don't want the whole quoting, you can delete the bad stuff out like you were editing your own text.

If you don't want to have any quote, just click on the link "Reply to this thread".

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Message 133988 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 133983.  

It reposts the picture because the link is still there. If you want to remove the link to the picture it is this:
img src="http://www.cites.uiuc.edu/dialup/graphics/isdn-10bt-mult.gif"
with arrow brackets on either side.

Alternately instead of replying to the post, you can reply to the thread (that's what I almost always do).

One last thing... Just below the post information, you'll see a link that says "edit this post" for your own posts, it is deactivated after an hour (maybe less, I can never remember). Generally it's considered "better" to edit a post rather than posting twice in a row. (also known as a double post)
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Message 133989 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 22:31:36 UTC - in response to Message 133983.  

and by the way every time i answer a post why is every message reposted? is it because i click add my sig to this reply?


I think because you are clicking "reply to this post". That will copy everything. If you just want to post an answer click the "Reply to this thread" in the bottom left hand corner.

P.S. Another plus to getting a router is that you sort of become invisible to others on the internet. If you see people triggering your firewall now, after you install a router that will pretty much cease.
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Message 134002 - Posted: 7 Jul 2005, 23:10:22 UTC - in response to Message 133976.  

Is your dell attatched to the internet?

If it is, you d/l the BOINC client and put in your user key and the project URL.

If it is NOT, the you will have to set up a way for it to connect. This will involve (probably) you getting either a router or a switch. These would go behind your cable modem, and would allow both of the computers to connect to the internet on the same cable connection.


The set up will look somehting like this:



Does this help?


I would suggest that the OP use a NAT router, NetGear, Linksys, D-Link, etc, instead of a hub or switch.

Using a hub or switch would require a second ip address from the ISP.

The NAT router would also provide some firewall like protection for the computers, and allow them to easily use 'file & printer sharing' without exposing them to the black hats.


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Message 134191 - Posted: 8 Jul 2005, 9:03:50 UTC

Greg, your're welcome!

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Ok, you got Greg's idea. Guess I didn't figure it out
the way he meant it. Whatsoever...
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