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 Fuzzy Hollynoodles  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Bomb explosions in London! From BBC An Islamist website has posted a statement - purportedly from al-Qaeda - claiming it was behind the attacks. From CNN Statement claiming London attacks from a group that's calling itself "the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda of Jihad Organisation in Europe", also saying: "We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused." And, BTW, I remember a discussion here not long time ago, where someone, we all know, thought the word Jihad was so funny that it could make a joke, he posted here! We here in Europe don't find the word Jihad amusing at all, and we live with it here! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me 
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AC  Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0 
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They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates. To me this is scary because I thought that much of the Al-Qaeda people were on the run. But this event could prove that they're still very active. Fuzzy about Jihad, these people don't really care about Jihad I'd say since they were probly brainwashed to kill just as many people as they can. ID: 133740 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates. To me this is scary because I thought that much of the Al-Qaeda people were on the run. But this event could prove that they're still very active. Alex, where have you been? A suicide bomber? There has been 7 explosions, Alex, and one suicide bomber has not been able to cover them all! Only one, you know, goes with the territory!  Didn't you read the links I provided? I quote: Statement claiming London attacks The BBC has located an Islamist website that has published a 200-word statement issued by an organisation saying it carried out the London bombings. The organisation calls itself the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda [literally the base] of Jihad Organisation in Europe. The group not previously been heard of. The website has previously carried statements purporting to be from al-Qaeda. It is not possible to verify such claims published on the web. This is the full text of the statement. "In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him. Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters. We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid. We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused. God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly." This is Jihad, Alex!!! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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Bruno G. Olsen & ESEA @ greenholt  Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 875 Credit: 4,386,984 RAC: 0 
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They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates. Well, I've never heard of IRA attacking several targets in an coordinated efford like this, so I'd rule out IRA instantly. Besides, they don't really have any reason to attack at the moment - at least not big scale like this. And BTW as far as I know they always target military or police. They way this has happened sounds more typical for Al-Qaeda and ass. 
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Bruno G. Olsen & ESEA @ greenholt Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 875 Credit: 4,386,984 RAC: 0
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They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates. To me this is scary because I thought that much of the Al-Qaeda people were on the run. But this event could prove that they're still very active. Ahem, it could just be that BBC have information about, or reason to believe that, one of the bombs being the result of a suicide bomber. And as things are currently as chaotic as they are, it's plausible that all or some of these bombings were suicide bombings. BTW about Jihad: I personally believe that this concept is used by such "organizations" at will - to gain support for purposes that may not even have anything to do with Jihad. And I'm not sure Al-Qaeda really have Jihad in mind (although supporters may believe so) - it's all about power and demonstrations of power, to gain more subjects to rule over. My view at least.
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Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0
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What ever the cause, what ever the reason, my heart goes out to the British people. We're all in this together, we're all targets. It's a clear question of us verses them. It's about time we stop the politically correct BS and start profiling these people and not let them into our countries. We know who they are, and which group of people they hide amongst. And when these attacks happen, this same group usually remains completely silent in condemning this kind of outrage. Religion has everything to do with this, not just culture and politics. With all of these attackers, their last living wet dream, just before they blow themselves up, is the seventy virgins they think they will shortly be screwing in heaven. One question: Where was the intelligence? If you don't think religion had anything to do with the attack, this is a posting on the BBC from an Arab website claiming responsibility: "In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him. Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters. We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid. We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused. God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly." [b]Addendum: US ground transportation systems have gone to ORANGE alert. Account frozen... ID: 133760 · |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates. To me this is scary because I thought that much of the Al-Qaeda people were on the run. But this event could prove that they're still very active. I understand that Fuzzy. The report of the possible suicide bomber was from one area I believe. I should have mentioned that though. But the possibility of even just one suicide bomber is enough to presume that it was the work of Al-Qaeda types. I don't doubt that these extremists claim to be engaged in some sort of Holy War against the west, but most Muslims throughout the world, including mainstream Muslim clerics, have said that these terrorists are not engaging in a legitimate Jihad. So their use of the laws of Jihad to justify their terrible actions are BS. If people in the west start to use the word Jihad, than the terrorists are able to achieve their goals easier, since in a way it recognizes their actions as Jihad. That may help them get even more support in predominantly Muslim societies. ID: 133773 · |
Jord  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 
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I was just listening to Will Smith's Lost & Found album last night. I found a snippet of lyrics which fit as a glove. It's from the track Ms. Holy Roller. The greatest atrocities ever committed on this planet have been in the name of God This country was founded by the Puritans for the express purpose of opression free worship Your attitude is the same arrogant fearful fundamentalism that fueled the hatred, of the Crusades and the attacks of 9/11 If we are not allowed to worship God as groups and individuals free from persecution and respect for tolerance, there's only one outcome ID: 133774 · |
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Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0
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Only a few brave Muslim clerics have openly condemned the terrorists use of Jihad. But the vast majority of them have either remained silent, or have publicly come out in support of these murderous activities. I stand my ground and will not be a apologizer for religious fanatics of any ilk. These ancient superstitious beliefs have directly been the cause of many millions of deaths for the past 2,000 years. Not to mention the millions of deaths indirectly due to religiously applied ignorance. Hundreds of millions would not be a figure which is out of bounds when you throw in all the persecutions and wars involving religion. What a blood bath in the name of someone's Ba'al. Account frozen... ID: 133775 · |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates. Good points. Another thing that came to mind was that the IRA might not have enough weapons to do this kind of work anymore because of the disarmament. ID: 133781 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
I just heard that the UN Security Council has been called in for a meeting. No links found to be attached to this. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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Only a few brave Muslim clerics have openly condemned the terrorists use of Jihad. But the vast majority of them have either remained silent, or have publicly come out in support of these murderous activities. I stand my ground and will not be a apologizer for religious fanatics of any ilk. Me neither. But if I was a cleric, I'd be a little afraid to go against these groups because they attack people for speaking out against them. ID: 133789 · |
Celtic Wolf  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3278 Credit: 595,676 RAC: 0
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Alex lad if you think that the ingredients needed to make these kind of weapons are not easy to get you need to do a wee bit of research. I could easily make a bomb and not have to buy anything that can not be found in your local grocery store. I am thinking that somewhere along the line "In the name of God" will not be taken kindly anymore.. I'd rather speak my mind because it hurts too much to bite my tongue. American Spirit BBQ Proudly Serving those that courageously defend freedom. ID: 133791 · |
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N/A Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0 |
[font='courier,courier new']Blair must be shitting bricks right now. Britons do not deserve this attack - Civilians are not honourable targets. Just like Madrid, one more Bloody Thursday.[/font] ID: 133799 · |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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It's possible that experienced bomb makers might be able to do that. We'll just have to wait and see what the British authorities reveal about the explosives in the next few days. ID: 133802 · |
Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan  Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4548 Credit: 35,667,570 RAC: 4 
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I don't know what to say .... I'm kind ...... slow and not very ... good with .... words ... except ....... I'm soooo ... sad .... and ........ soooo ...... depressed ..... I guess I'm a coward .... but I guess I would say ..... <B> we humans ... are capable ... of such ... beautiful dreams </B> <B>...... and such horrible nightmares ... </B> this is one of those ...... horrible nightmares ............ The World is my country all mankind are my brethren and to do good is my religion Thomas Paine The Age of Reason American Revolutionary - War -- 1776 <a>  I'm soooo ... sad .... and ........ soooo ...... depressed ..... I guess I'm a coward .... they play this song on our local radio .... this morming .. I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one ........... John Lennon Imagine Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today... Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one --- John Lennon I'm soooo ... sad .... and ........ soooo ...... depressed ..... I guess I'm a coward .... I'm sorry for this long post ..... please forgive me ... byron Peace ID: 133815 · |
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Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0
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I have a real hard time with a people that believe their god tells them to go kill people... ID: 133827 · |
kinhull  Send message Joined: 3 Oct 03 Posts: 1029 Credit: 636,475 RAC: 0 
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I have a real hard time with a people that believe their god tells them to go kill people... It has nothing to do with God. I'm not aware of any religion that actually say you should kill people who don't do what you want them to. Some people will use any excuse as a justification for acts of terror. Acts of terror in the long run just don't work. To my mind the reason why some make up these (fairly obvious) excuses is because they are too feeble to think of any alternatives or are too scared to say what their real political intentions are. Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. ID: 133839 · |
Captain Avatar  Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0
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Byron, Why would you think you are a coward, It's the Butthead Terrorist that are cowards Purposely Killing innocent Men, Woman and Children. They are the true cowards Byron, NOT YOU OR Any One of US. 
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rattelschneck  Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 435 Credit: 842,179 RAC: 0 
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Words are absent. This is another sad day. How much more to come? My thoughts are over at the people in the UK. Though, there's so few one can do about it. It makes me feel helpless... ID: 133875 · |
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