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 Kajunfisher  Send message Joined: 29 Mar 05 Posts: 1407 Credit: 126,476 RAC: 0 
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On HBO there is a movie called "The Girl In The Cafe" Watch it, and I hope you like it. If you've seen it already you will know this post is not OT. .o0(Thanks Keith for reminding me of it) ID: 131395 ·  |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
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Jord  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 
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Cheers..it was transmitted here in the UK a few days ago. Weirdly enough at about the same time it was broadcast in The Netherlands (15 minutes between them). I also saw it'll be on Belgium 2 (Canvas) tonight. Oh, Live 8 live on your computer: http://music.aol.com/live_8_concert/live_now?LOC=2 ID: 131602 · |
Sir Ulli  Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 
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Cheers..it was transmitted here in the UK a few days ago. Thanks for the Link Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli  ID: 131748 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
The link to sign the list is here. Please sign! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me 
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Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0
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dont miss Pink Floyd, after twenty years with Roger Waters, .... http://www.aol.de/index.jsp?cid=1027720657&pageId=1&sg=Musik_special_Live8 Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli ID: 131766 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
dont miss Pink Floyd, after twenty years with Roger Waters, .... Sure won't! Is it in Berlin they play?? Very appropriate when I think of The Wall performed in Berlin in 1990! I just saw Velvet Revolver with Slash and Linkin Park (with one of the sexiest men alive, Mike Shinoda!!) with Jay-Z. Am not so much into Sting anymore, they could have given the 15 min to some others, e.g. Scissor Sisters!!! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0
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dont miss Pink Floyd, after twenty years with Roger Waters, .... to this List Pink Floyd are in London http://www.aol.de/index.jsp?cid=1027720657&pageId=1&sg=Musik_special_Live8 this are German times, add + 1 hour if you live in UK, or look at http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/utc.html Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli ID: 131786 · |
ghstwolf  Send message Joined: 14 Oct 04 Posts: 322 Credit: 55,806 RAC: 0
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Since this thread has gone a bit OT: Quick poll- will Pink Floyd sound great (or good) or are we waiting for a trainwreck? Back on topic. While I an not a fan of mixing politics with entertainment, it is only because celebs tend to get behind plans that will not work. The plans often don't have enough "stick", it's usually all carrot. In the real world that just doesn't work. Here the balance is better. One thing I would like to see more of is corporations step up and help them develop. No free ride, but establish some manufacturing. The whole "give a man a fish feed them for a day, teach them to fish and feed them for a lifetime" thing.  Still looking for something profound or inspirational to place here. ID: 131802 · |
RDC  Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 544 Credit: 1,215,728 RAC: 0
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One thing I would like to see more of is corporations step up and help them develop. No free ride, but establish some manufacturing. The whole "give a man a fish feed them for a day, teach them to fish and feed them for a lifetime" thing. Agreed. The issue however is that many of the poorer nations in the world have been helped many times yet the aid sent doesn't get any further than a country's corrupt government, be it governmental aid, charitable aid or private aid. I wonder how much of the aid that ultimately comes out of this concert will end up in a corrupt government's coffers instead of out to the people that need it.  To truly explore, one must keep an open mind... ID: 131807 · |
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Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0
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Politics ... but at this time Pink Floyd live with Roger Waters http://music.aol.com/live_8_concert/live_now?LOC=2 Sit down and enjoy Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli ID: 131809 · |
Nebby  Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 54 Credit: 1,896,156 RAC: 0
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Right you guys are...The governements in Africa have to change or be overthrown in order to enact any significant change. Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo estimates that... "Corrupt African leaders have stolen at least $140 billion from their people in the [four] decades since independence." ID: 131812 · |
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Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0
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and then Pink Floyd is playing the Seti Song Is anybody out there Cool.................... Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli ID: 131816 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
and then Pink Floyd is playing the Seti Song Yes, they were good! Instrumental, they are vintage, but vocally, Ok, they are old men! The best song was Comfortably Numb! I think David Gilmore is the one who has changed the most, Roger Waters looks almost like himself from earlier. And I really enjoyed David Gilmore's guitarplay! The Who earlier was good too! Pete Townsend in good shape and Roger Daltrey in really good shape, also vocally! Motley Crue at the moment! And about the critics, yes, Africa is a very hard continent to solve problems in, and yes, much of the money that goes there, go into the wrong pockets, including the pockets of the people working for the helping societies! I saw a tv program about this from Kigali, Rwanda, where they described the situation, and I was outraged! But the first Live Aid from 1985 actually gave food to the starving people, so who can complain? I mean, a number of people actually lived because of Live Aid, so who can be cynical about that? "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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RDC Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 544 Credit: 1,215,728 RAC: 0
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But the first Live Aid from 1985 actually gave food to the starving people, so who can complain? I mean, a number of people actually lived because of Live Aid, so who can be cynical about that? I'm not trying to be cynical Fuzzy but factual in the overall picture. Yes, some aid will get to those who truly need it but I'm just recalling the many past attempts at giving aid to the people in many of the impoverished areas of the world where little got through. I wish them the best of luck and it's a great idea at highlighting a problem that does need to be addressed. To truly explore, one must keep an open mind... ID: 131833 · |
Dominique  Send message Joined: 3 Mar 05 Posts: 1628 Credit: 74,745 RAC: 0
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Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo estimates that... "Corrupt African leaders have stolen at least $140 billion from their people in the [four] decades since independence." Interesting, especially coming from the land of the "419" scams. -Mr. anon ID: 131841 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
This is exactly what I said when I stated that many people's pockets get gildet, and sometimes the money, people give of their kind-heartedness sometimes never get out of the helping societies accounts! This has been critisized here, where Red Cross arrange huge shows with famous people participating and people phoning in money as a competition, where the money collected never got where they were supposed to! And again, people working at the places for the helping societies earn more money there, taxfree, than many of them would be able to here, plus they are living in luxury with their families. And again the locals who get gilded also! As many of the problems and conflicts in the world, this is hard to solve! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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ghstwolf Send message Joined: 14 Oct 04 Posts: 322 Credit: 55,806 RAC: 0
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RDC summed it up pretty well. Hopefully this is the last time this needs to be done, but I'm not that optimistic. As I said before, this time the battle plan is a bit more sound. Much more targeted at "teaching the man to fish". That I am pointing out some issues, is far more optimistic (on my part) than you seem to be giving credit for. If I considered it a failure from the outset, I wouldn't bother. Infastructure is nice, but being able to maintain it is even better. To do that, they need to find a way to support it. Some form of industry is needed, and in their current state, that requires outside investment both financial and in expertise. Get some companies to develop resources there, and there is a way to fund that infastructure, income for their employees, and for the government. My opinion about Celebs and politics not mixing, is not specificly about this. It's about almost anything they try to raise awareness to. The groups they often pick to support, have no discernable plan. IMO the ones that claim to have a plan, and they do, but it lacks any basis in reality are even worse. Keith Stanley- always bring a pessimist. We'll keep you honest, and help you forge a stronger case (and insist on contingency plans). Still looking for something profound or inspirational to place here. ID: 131852 · |
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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3
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dont miss Pink Floyd, after twenty years with Roger Waters A couple of problems there, dear Fuzz. a) It wasn't 20 years between now and 1990. (Unless your time runs faster?) b) Roger Waters was in a fight with the David Gilmore since 1983 over who could use the name Pink Floyd, after the band broke up that year. But the part they did was in my very humble opinion GREAT!!! Better than fat flab Simon Le Bon and Duran Duran, or always scary person Rob Smith of The Cure. :) Having now seen what Sarah McLachlan looks like, I like the CDs I have of hers a lot more. :) ID: 131857 · |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
I know, I know, sweetie, and it wasn't Pink Floyd, but Roger Waters with The Wall in Berlin back in 1990! But The Wall and Pink Floyd are connected, and having them together tonight was great! The Danish commentators said that they had spoken with one of the others from the band about the mood at the rehearsal, and he said that Roger and David even started to joke with each other again! He said there was a nice feeling among them! And, as they say themselves, they were ready to put the past quarrels behind them! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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