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Message 128447 - Posted: 26 Jun 2005, 20:32:16 UTC

as you know at 02.07 le Tour 2005 is starting


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what did you think, did Amstrong win again, ore someone else like Jan Ulrich..

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Message 128602 - Posted: 27 Jun 2005, 0:27:01 UTC

I think Lance Armstrong will do it one more time! He is motivated this year more than other years and will have a very good Team around him AGAIN.
Also he KNOWS the other riders, just like they know him, but he is MOTIVATED! He is NOT going to ride another year, the others might. They can hold back and explode next year with no LA to out kick them or out mountain them or out time trial them or out whatever them! There has been no other rider to consistently be #2 over the years, Yes I think Jan Ulrich will do well, but no I don't think he will win. Next year who knows?.

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Message 128963 - Posted: 27 Jun 2005, 18:57:38 UTC

I hope someone else wins. Le tour is as boring as Formula 1 was when Schummacher was winning all the time. As much as i admire Armstrong for coming back after getting cancer it's time for someone else to win. I don't think Ulrich has it in him anymore.

Remember Marco Pantani, i always thought he deserved to win.



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Message 128993 - Posted: 27 Jun 2005, 20:19:32 UTC

I'm sorry, but after the exposure of the extensive use (or I should rather call it "abuse"!) of EPO, Tour de France has lost it's appeal to me!


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Message 129040 - Posted: 27 Jun 2005, 22:32:22 UTC

I think Jan Ulrich is a strong rider, but unless he's changed his gearing, the hills just take too much out of him.

I'm thinking Lance has a chance again this year, but last year it was a pretty narrow win.
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Message 129041 - Posted: 27 Jun 2005, 22:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 128993.  

I'm sorry, but after the exposure of the extensive use (or I should rather call it "abuse"!) of EPO, Tour de France has lost it's appeal to me!

I believe it would be safe to say that over 80% of the World's top atheletes use SOME KIND of performance enhancer! NO sport is exempt, just some are MUCH more obvious than others. Heck even military pilots use speed to stay awake to fly the planes for hours at a time.

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Message 131336 - Posted: 1 Jul 2005, 22:15:02 UTC

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Message 131801 - Posted: 2 Jul 2005, 21:47:23 UTC

after the first Stage all is clear

Jan Ullrich has get over one Minute to Amstrong

so i think this is over Amstrong will win again

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Message 131825 - Posted: 2 Jul 2005, 22:51:48 UTC

I'm not too keen on either Amstrong nor Ullrich. I do have hopes for a CSC rider to win though chances are a bit slim.


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Message 132170 - Posted: 3 Jul 2005, 20:42:14 UTC

I agree Sir Ulli.

Barring accident, I think Armstrong has it. It's unheard of to be a minute up (on those that count) after the first stage. And the fact that Lance passed Jan was really something.
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Message 134460 - Posted: 8 Jul 2005, 22:53:19 UTC


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Message 134495 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 0:14:41 UTC - in response to Message 128963.  

I hope someone else wins. Le tour is as boring as Formula 1 was when Schummacher was winning all the time. As much as i admire Armstrong for coming back after getting cancer it's time for someone else to win. I don't think Ulrich has it in him anymore.

Remember Marco Pantani, i always thought he deserved to win.




The time for somebody else to win is when somebody else rides faster, better, stronger than Armstrong. Do not succumb to the mindless pursuit of novelty for its own sake. Every stage of the Tour is a drama, and every rider is a winner. Besides, Lance won't be around next year.

THE MOTHER OF FOOLS IS ALWAYS PREGNANT

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Message 134916 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 23:26:48 UTC

Lance and his Team have first Probs


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Message 135137 - Posted: 10 Jul 2005, 15:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 134916.  

Lance and his Team have first Probs



And now coming into the mountains, Lance's BEST part, he is 2:18 behind in 3rd place. The announcers said, and I agree, he gave the yellow jersey away to remove some of the pressure and will easily take it back when he is ready.
Yesterday the Discovery Team had problems, today they rode like a Team again!!
Lance is in a VERY good position to win his 7th Tour and retire knowing he is on top and will NEVER, well at least not for a VERY long time, be threatened for total number of Tour wins!
The GREAT Eddie Mercyx(sp) won 5, Lance is already at 6 and soon will have number 7!

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Message 135171 - Posted: 10 Jul 2005, 16:07:54 UTC

Cyclist Goes for Record 10th Straight Loss at Tour de France
Written by Chris Finch

Tim Guftuson eyeing 10th straight loss.

PARIS, FRANCE -- All eyes in the cycling world turn to Europe for the sport's
biggest event, The Tour de France. Lance Armstrong is the overwhelming
favorite to win his seventh French race. But another American has his sites
set on a record of his own, a 10 race losing streak.

Tim Guftuson has been riding in the tour for nine years, and he has never won.
A streak he hopes to extend to ten.

"The key to losing is in the mountains," Guftuson said. "Once you start
climbing those things, watch out. You can't coach that. I don't have my
own personal mountain to train on."

And it is a lack of sophisticated equipment and common sense that Guftuson
says keeps his streak alive.

"If I had all that scientifical stuff the other guys had, who knows, I might
have won one."

In fact, his bike is a Huffy his mother bought for him from K-Mart when he was
16 years old. A gift he says inspired him to be a loser.

"My friends keyed "Loser" into the bike's handlebars. Even my mom laughed
about it. I figured I would become the greatest loser ever."

Before the race starts, the big question is not whether anyone is bad enough
to lose to Guftuson, but whether he has the will to lose for a tenth time.

"It's hard. Sometimes I think, 'hey, I can pass that guy. I can beat his
time,'" he said. "But then I remember I'm not just doing this for me, I'm
doing it for America."

His spirit has garnered many fans from around the world. Some even say he has
changed their lives. Molly Wong runs in two marathons a year. She says
Guftuson is her favorite cyclist and he drives her to succeed.

"Honestly, I don't know any other cyclist besides him and Lance Armstrong. But
Lance left his wife, for that (explicative) Sheryl Crow, after she helped him
beat cancer," Wong said. "His willingness to keep losing is special. I've
never won a marathon and thanks to him, I never want to win."

According to Guftuson, the road to losing is paved with heartache, bloodstains
and loneliness, but it is all worth it when he crosses the finish line in
Paris. A line that is usually blocked by traffic because the race ended
earlier and the streets are reopened.

"When you make that traditional ride into Paris and cars are honking and
people are laughing and pointing, you can't help but feel a sense of pride."

Pride that Tim Guftuson hopes to one day to instill in his children.

"I don't have a girlfriend or anything, but if I were to have children, I hope
they would be the best losers they could be too."
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Message 135812 - Posted: 12 Jul 2005, 22:51:33 UTC

after this stage all is clear



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Message 135827 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 0:03:59 UTC

Very exciting stage this one.

I believe Lance could have taken the stage if he wanted to, but the yellow jersey is good enough for him.

Great performance by both guys crossing the line, and a great gesture as Sir Ulli posted. :)
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Message 136141 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 19:39:26 UTC

This was the Day of Vino


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Message 136172 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 21:08:25 UTC - in response to Message 136141.  

This was the Day of Vino

but Amstrong was also very strong



Yes, that was an impressing demonstration. Especially if you look at when the mass of the drivers crossed the last summit. To go ahead of the top teams and win this stage really took special qualities today.

But I really miss the tension of the mountain stages when Ullrich fought Virenque (the famous stare into each others eyes) or the duel with Pantani. Some more open fight and less tactics would be great. Of course, yesterday was a demonstration by Lance. But if you waited for Ullrich or Basso to keep up with Armstrong, the contest was quickly clear by a look into the faces.

But let's wait for the Pyrenees. Maybe we will see the race is still on...

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Message 136330 - Posted: 14 Jul 2005, 9:02:17 UTC - in response to Message 136141.  

This was the Day of Vino

but Amstrong was also very strong

Yes, it was quite a performance by Vinokourov. We'll have to see what kind of toll it takes on him in the next stage. It seemed to me to be a lot of effort for such a small time gain on Armstrong. However, if he can keep it up, then perhaps he'll win the tour. Or could he possibly have only been concerned with the stage win?
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