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Message 123848 - Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 10:23:59 UTC

I have done over 3000 work units and Bionc has reset the counter to zero. Bring back the old version. It was simple and elegant. I do not want all this 3D stuff (it just wastes clock cycles)I will give you guys some time to fix this crap or I will no longer participate.

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Message 123873 - Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 12:54:46 UTC

As "Performance test Engnineer" it should be clear to you that the new 3D stuff use less clock cycles of the CPU then the old one. And beside this you are free to use a screensaver or not. No graphics, no "wasting" of clock cycles. That is not different as it was with SETI@home Classic.

And why unelegant? Including the option to install SETI@home (BOINC) as Service is normal and very usefully with modern operating systems. When SETI@home Classic was born, the operating systems where working really different and people have still to use very complicated 3rd party tools for installing the text client as service. Seems not so simple to me. All my hosts are running as service today and I only start the GUI interface when it is needed. Very elegant in my view.

SETI@home BOINC now proof the returned results and the reliablity of science and credits are improved a lot. No longer stupid cheaters with to much time waste the science by spamming the servers with thousands of faked results. No longer a honest cruncher needs month to crunch the same number of WUs, a studend with daddys computer can fake in one day. Seems very elegant in my view too.

And BOINC has reset nothing to zero. It is only no longer counting WUs. The number of WUs you have crunched and the time you spend for the SETI@home project is transferd to your account. In the future there will be a set of different WUs in the SETI@home project and the time to crunch them may differ a lot. Weight them different and not only to count them seems a fair and elegant way to honor the participation in SETI@home.

Please - after the first shock - give SETI@home BOINC a real chance. It is better then the posts of some unhappy and surprised users in the boards seems to show.

Greetings from Bremen/Germany
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Message 123945 - Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 19:46:04 UTC
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Well if you would look around Read and comprehend you would find that your Classic credit is here
SETI@home member since 2 Mar 2003
Country Australia
Total credit 0.00
Recent average credit 0.00
SETI@home classic workunits
as of 15 March 2005 2,636
SETI@home classic CPU time
as of 15 March 2005 13,974 hours
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Simple is the word bit far from elegant, and all you do is shut down the screen saver and not use the graphics, who needs them...
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and the rest will be added as soon as Classic is shut down and a final snapshot is taken....
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So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.
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Message 125342 - Posted: 19 Jun 2005, 13:53:46 UTC

To "Bionic Sucks": Perhaps you can fill me in on what has happened to data. I have not checked my account in years and just found 0.0 credits after 2,000 work units since 1999. Would you be so kind as to explain what I now read as much disgust over a change in the system?

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Message 125415 - Posted: 19 Jun 2005, 18:38:44 UTC - in response to Message 125342.  
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To "Bionic Sucks": Perhaps you can fill me in on what has happened to data. I have not checked my account in years and just found 0.0 credits after 2,000 work units since 1999. Would you be so kind as to explain what I now read as much disgust over a change in the system?

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The (very good) manual for Boinc is the BOINC Powered Projects Documentation by Paul D. Buck and the FAQ therein.

For information regarding Credits look here or here!

I think the task distribution here at Boinc works fine:

The project teams does the science, the application coding, and they deliver the raw data for the statistics. They even include some rudimentary statistics on the site as well.

The eager community delivers all kind of statistics, banners, competition, gadgets...you name it, it's probably already there.

Click on my left banner to go to my favourite Statspage.

As for the old classic data:
Snapshots of the number of crunched WUs were taken at the start of Boinc, and another one in March 05. A last one will be taken, when Classic will stop (or soon after that).
As there is no direct link between the two statistics databases of Classic and Boinc, an automatic actualisation is impossible (or at least too much effort for the meager time/money budget of the Berkeley crew).
For the details of the transition from Classic to Boinc look here.

Your date are this:
SETI@home member since 18 Jun 1999
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Total credit 0.00
Recent average credit 0.00
SETI@home classic workunits
as of 15 March 2005 1,459
SETI@home classic CPU time
as of 15 March 2005 20,623 hours

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For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki
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