I ran S@H as screensaver to do something useful with my PC, not to get to the top of a list, nor to show colleagues how technophile I am - just to help a bit.
I have now been moved to Boinc, and after 25 yrs in computing, I am impressed that we still have people so completely unable to see a user's point of view. Everything about the Boinc site & software says "self-centred hyperactive teenage scribblers": the whole edifice disregards anyone who doesn't want or have the time to prat around learning the way round a site, and this from projects that should be falling over themselves to be friendly.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

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I ran S@H as screensaver to do something useful with my PC, not to get to the top of a list, nor to show colleagues how technophile I am - just to help a bit.
I have now been moved to Boinc, and after 25 yrs in computing, I am impressed that we still have people so completely unable to see a user's point of view. Everything about the Boinc site & software says "self-centred hyperactive teenage scribblers": the whole edifice disregards anyone who doesn't want or have the time to prat around learning the way round a site, and this from projects that should be falling over themselves to be friendly.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

Goodbye!

Byeeeeeeee and thanks for the ....18.....credits. Wow 18! That helps a lot lol!

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I ran S@H as screensaver to do something useful with my PC, not to get to the top of a list, nor to show colleagues how technophile I am - just to help a bit.
I have now been moved to Boinc, and after 25 yrs in computing, I am impressed that we still have people so completely unable to see a user's point of view. Everything about the Boinc site & software says "self-centred hyperactive teenage scribblers": the whole edifice disregards anyone who doesn't want or have the time to prat around learning the way round a site, and this from projects that should be falling over themselves to be friendly.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

Last I heard there's a screen saver on S@H BOINC. As you've been in computing 25 years, I fail to understand your problem. S@H on BOINC is easy to set up and run, especially if that's the only project you wish to run. Install, paste in the two lines of information from an e-mail to attach to S@H and let it run. From your total amount of work completed, you didn't even bother to give BOINC a real chance and you talk about others as self-centered hyperactive teenage scribblers???

I get the impression from your rant that your more interested in whining about the demise of Classic than anything so don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

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To truly explore, one must keep an open mind...

I ran S@H as screensaver to do something useful with my PC, not to get to the top of a list, nor to show colleagues how technophile I am - just to help a bit.
I have now been moved to Boinc, and after 25 yrs in computing, I am impressed that we still have people so completely unable to see a user's point of view. Everything about the Boinc site & software says "self-centred hyperactive teenage scribblers": the whole edifice disregards anyone who doesn't want or have the time to prat around learning the way round a site, and this from projects that should be falling over themselves to be friendly.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

Last I heard there's a screen saver on S@H BOINC. As you've been in computing 25 years, I fail to understand your problem. S@H on BOINC is easy to set up and run, especially if that's the only project you wish to run. Install, paste in the two lines of information from an e-mail to attach to S@H and let it run. From your total amount of work completed, you didn't even bother to give BOINC a real chance and you talk about others as self-centered hyperactive teenage scribblers???

I get the impression from your rant that your more interested in whining about the demise of Classic than anything so don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Personally, I was quite happy to be referred to as a teenager lol

Regards

Tony

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I may be getting older but I refuse to grow up!

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see what kind of benifit the project could get from your leaving - especially in this way.

Most likely effects of this kind of "leaving in complaint":

Less computer power for the project (and the benifit is?)
A statement about things not meeting some unknown criteria hangs in the air (and the benifit is?)
Scaring off of people who hasn't yet given BOINC a chance (and the benifit is?)
People going "ohh, a computer wizard with 25 years experience can't figure it out", after which they don't even try to install it (and the benifit is?)

You know, I'd think what would benifit the project, now and in the future, would be something like:

Staying with the project (benifit: no reduction in computer power)
Suggestions for changes/additions (benifit: future development might go in a direction people would like)
Constructive critisism (benifit: suggestions for changes/additions might arise to address those issues)
Help others make it work (benifit: more users equals more computer power, and equals a louder voice)

But then again, it's much easier to act like a child in a store that don't excactly and all the candy it wants.

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Thanks for your contribution. It's more than 50% larger than the one PZ gave

Thanks for your contribution. It's more than 50% larger than the one PZ gave

Yeahh!!!! And only one - in number(s): 1 - post(s)!!!

LOLLLL!!

Attention getter....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Thanks for your contribution. It's more than 50% larger than the one PZ gave

Yeahh!!!! And only one - in number(s): 1 - post(s)!!!

LOLLLL!!

Attention getter....

Siran, it's called Attention Whore!

I thought that's what PZ is?

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I ran S@H as screensaver to do something useful with my PC, not to get to the top of a list, nor to show colleagues how technophile I am - just to help a bit.
I have now been moved to Boinc, and after 25 yrs in computing, I am impressed that we still have people so completely unable to see a user's point of view. Everything about the Boinc site & software says "self-centred hyperactive teenage scribblers": the whole edifice disregards anyone who doesn't want or have the time to prat around learning the way round a site, and this from projects that should be falling over themselves to be friendly.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

Go Away you are the kind of person who would blame a shoe maker if your lace came undone we don't need you or your attitude.
I hope I am not feeding a troll!

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Ah, Fuzzy, as alway's A Diamond in the Rough!
Hi.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

I have seen some of the most computer illiterate people successfully running BOINC. I have to wonder why you can't..

265 hours of time given to a project and only 30 credits.. Hmmmm thanks for the overwelming support.

I am sorry you are so anti-change.. I hope you do well in life.. BYE

PS Thank you for calling me a teenager..

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I'd rather speak my mind because it hurts too much to bite my tongue.

American Spirit BBQ Proudly Serving those that courageously defend freedom.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC. I regret this parting. My solace is that by writing this note as a 'good' customer who complains directly instead of just walking away, I might have some beneficial effect on the future of the project.

Yupp More for me......

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I hope the regulars to these fora (eg those here who have been posting for far longer than I [Respect, guys]) will forgive me, but there is one question I would like to ask:

If, as in what I understand of your initial post, you believe this to be a useful undertaking, why are you walking away?

Regards

Tony

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I may be getting older but I refuse to grow up!

Thanks for your contribution. It's more than 50% larger than the one PZ gave

Yeahh!!!! And only one - in number(s): 1 - post(s)!!!

LOLLLL!!

Attention getter....

Siran, it's called Attention Whore!

I think we have the "attention whore" profile in the original babe thread.

I have now disabled & will delete Boinc from my PC.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord spit ya!

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me@rescam.org

I am confused and somewhat hurt.

I'm approaching six years involvement with this site. I stuck with it. I convinced my husband to add his work machines.

I managed to make it to the top 99% of users.

And now? I'm knocked down to the bottom? WTF?

W T F?

Something isn't right here. I wasn't doing this for world recognition, but for all that is holy to completely disregard all that we have done already and to knock me/us back down to the lower echelons so completely... that's just wrong.

Is there something I'm missing? Why am I put on the same plain as those who have just started? Why does it appear that all the past effort is for naught? You all put those ranks into place. Didn't you think that some folks might take some pride in them?

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(oops computer fart or over-beered-user misuse... sorry)

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I am confused and somewhat hurt.

I'm approaching six years involvement with this site. I stuck with it. I convinced my husband to add his work machines.

I managed to make it to the top 99% of users.

And now? I'm knocked down to the bottom? WTF?

W T F?

Something isn't right here. I wasn't doing this for world recognition, but for all that is holy to completely disregard all that we have done already and to knock me/us back down to the lower echelons so completely... that's just wrong.

Is there something I'm missing? Why am I put on the same plain as those who have just started? Why does it appear that all the past effort is for naught? You all put those ranks into place. Didn't you think that some folks might take some pride in them?

Credit is not given out the same way as in Classic. Credit is awarded based on calculations performed to measure up your PC's (ok, benchmarking isn't perfect, but thats beside the point). If you complete a WU in 3 hours, you will get 3 hours worth of credit (depending on your CPU). If you complete another in 1 hour, you will get 1 hour worth of credit. If you complete another in 12 minutes or 5 hours, you will get credit accordingly. In classic this was not the case, you got 1 WU awarded regardless if it took 5 hours or 12 minutes.

You are put on the same plain as we all have, since you are running different software than in classic. I'm not sure, but if S@H/BOINC looks for different stuff than Classic, it will probably do it soon. What 'application' is run (or version, to be more adequate) is determined by S@H staff, so everybody crunches with the same app.

Even better, it is open source! You can get optimized clients that will decrease your computing time, or you can build them yourself.

(S@H)@BOINC sends out a WU to max 4 hosts. In Classic, I've read that a WU was send up to 40 (correct me if I'm wrong). This doesn't help science much.

Graphics in (S@H)@BOINC are way better than in Classic, and you can enable/disable them to your wishes.

BOINC manages several projects, in case you want to participate 'simultaneously' in more than one. It's a time-slice algorithm, and you choose how much time for each project, and which projects gets more attention than the others.

BOINC is, of course, not perfect, but it's become quite stable. You can choose several installation modes in M$ Windows, and the GUI is rather attractive.

BOINC is at an early stage, so your work here will begin almost as early as everyone else's. And you do get credit for WU's crunched in Classic, see Misfit's account for instance. (Hope it's ok Misfit..;) )

We can only hope that you will find BOINC attractive enough as a Distributed-Computing manager, as it is meant to be. Try it out, give it a shot.

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Jrm: You've missed what I meant entirely.

I can understand the switch to the new software. However, the new system seems to completely disregard our past effort.

My join date was July 1999. Now it is conceiveable that folks who joined just last week have a higher ranking than I. Maybe in the coming weeks/months the rankings will reflect that, but I'm not hopeful at this point.

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[font='fixedsys,courier']It doesn't discard past work - It'll be noted.

If I recall correctly, your previous SETI/Classic WUs will be accredited to you in the SETI/BOINC way (read: cobblestones).

Then again it's almost 4AM and I'm out of caffeine, so someone around here will have to confirm/deny that statement...[/font]

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