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Message 119206 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 11:53:16 UTC

Here you go Paul. A thread provided by a Boinc User for your use. Spam all you want and we won't have to see it.

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Message 119220 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 12:54:05 UTC

I don't do classic anymore, but I still post there. Are you saying thats wrong? Paul does classic and you are saying that he shouldn't post here because he hasn't changed yet.
I think Paul has every right to post here and personal attacks on anyone is stupid made by stupid people. If you and others wish to take this as a personal attack, Please do!
I disagree with some of his posts, but will defend his rights to my death!
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Message 119246 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 14:00:29 UTC - in response to Message 119220.  

I don't do classic anymore, but I still post there. Are you saying thats wrong? Paul does classic and you are saying that he shouldn't post here because he hasn't changed yet.
I think Paul has every right to post here and personal attacks on anyone is stupid made by stupid people. If you and others wish to take this as a personal attack, Please do!
I disagree with some of his posts, but will defend his rights to my death!

You read 'some' of his posts? You should read 'all' of his posts. He posts the same old rhetoric over, and over, and over, and over.... He seldom gives his own opinion on the topics he posts. But, when he does, don't counter his opinion. You will either get no response from him or he'll copy/paste or link to some crap from the Internet. He WILL NOT debate his point of view.

He is ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-BUSH [not that I agree with Bush et al.], ANTI-BUSH ADMINISTRATION.... He is un-American, un-patriotic....

He is SPAMMING the fora with his rhetoric. And, he has as-much-as stated that he WILL NOT participate in the BOINC/SETI project. He's a lonely old wannabe politician loser and just seeks attention wherever he may be and at the moment he just happens to be HERE.

WE are all tired of his rhetoric and crap....

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Message 119253 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 14:07:18 UTC







"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

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Message 119263 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 14:23:07 UTC - in response to Message 119220.  

I don't do classic anymore, but I still post there. Are you saying thats wrong? Paul does classic and you are saying that he shouldn't post here because he hasn't changed yet.
I think Paul has every right to post here and personal attacks on anyone is stupid made by stupid people. If you and others wish to take this as a personal attack, Please do!
I disagree with some of his posts, but will defend his rights to my death!


You may defend anyone's right's you feel necessary to. But you might choose your battles carefully. As stated by the previuos poster, please read all the posts made by Paul again. Stephen, even you do not find it necessary to be repatative in your dislikes on multiple threads. You as most of us, say our peace and move on. we speak with our own words, not the words of others. we have original thoughts, and we accept differing opinions and rebuttals. We do not discount other peoples opinions normally. We do this only because of the repetative bashing presented by Paul. Stephen, just because you do not participate in classis anymore is of no matter. You crunch for Boinc.
As repeated in many other threads, Paul has been afforded the opportunity to be provided a copy of an OS that would allow him to crunch Boic completely free of charge which was declined.

Have A Great Day And A Better Tomorrow!

Respectfully,

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Message 119282 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 14:42:40 UTC

I do read ALL his posts and do disagree with some, but not all. I do NOT think he is anti-American. I think those that would quite dissent are far more anti-American. It has always been an American.s right to dissent.
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Message 119291 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 14:53:07 UTC - in response to Message 119282.  

I do read ALL his posts and do disagree with some, but not all. I do NOT think he is anti-American. I think those that would quite dissent are far more anti-American. It has always been an American.s right to dissent.

and hence the reason for this thread. Let paul have a place to post his spam. Allow those who don't want to see it, a chance to completely avoid it(not to see it in threads for Boinc/Seti users). It's my right not to have to read his (IMO) crap.

Let him post here and then none of use will be required to even scroll past it.

Have you seen his Seti Classic numbers? It's about a weeks worth of work, and One Boinc WU. Would you defend a NAMBLA(national association for man/boy love association, or something to that effect) memgers right to post here if all he posted was what he and other NAMBLA members did to young boys?

Heck, he should be thanking me(an actual Boincer) for even creating this thread for his use. Isn't that defending his rights?

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Message 119294 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 14:56:41 UTC

Remember, Siran, misfit, CA, Fuzzy, etc. that I created this thread for NON Boinc Users ONLY. You actually contribute and have worth, so please let Paul ramble on endlessly all by himself (or with one or two to happen to agree with him)

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Message 119314 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 15:26:08 UTC - in response to Message 119206.  

[font='fixedsys,courier'] for good thinking: How can you have a non-BOINC thread in a BOINC-only environment?

.o0(At least it should be BOINC-only...)[/font]
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Message 119318 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 15:29:38 UTC

NA, I'm sure he isn't going to leave, so offering him a comfortable little room in the corner should atleast keep us real users from seeing his stuff(contain him to some unknown, more importantly Unread thread)
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Message 119335 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 15:53:21 UTC - in response to Message 119282.  

I do read ALL his posts and do disagree with some, but not all. I do NOT think he is anti-American. I think those that would quite dissent are far more anti-American. It has always been an American.s right to dissent.

I agree with you on the dissent issue, but Paul.... Paul takes dissent WAY TOO far past the extreme.... Come on! Even you should be able to see what's wrong with that picture....

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Message 119337 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 15:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 119291.  

....
.... Have you seen his Seti Classic numbers? It's about a weeks worth of work, and One Boinc WU. ....

mmciastro, how can Paul have ANY BOINC/SETI credit without this? That 11 credits is NOT VALID.


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Message 119338 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 16:00:29 UTC

Why not just call this a "Free Speech Zone"?

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Message 119339 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 16:03:33 UTC

again, everyone who has posted here actually contributes and therefor do no qualify to post here. I'm serious...Damned Serious (sort of) about this thread being for NON boinc users only.

you know this will probably be the only thread he doesn't post in.


Oops, now that I've said that, he'll probably post here once.

darn
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Message 119355 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 16:30:34 UTC

Well, I see now that you are the moderator and controler of Cafe SETI I apologize for opposing you and callinmg you stupid for making personaal attacks.
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Message 119359 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 16:45:44 UTC - in response to Message 119355.  

Well, I see now that you are the moderator and controler of Cafe SETI I apologize for opposing you and callinmg you stupid for making personaal attacks.

I'm not a moderator of the Cafe'. the originator of a thread is allowed certain leeway of control.

Edit titles, close threads, etc. its an etiquette not a law.
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Message 119381 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 17:31:00 UTC - in response to Message 119377.  

And I'll like to see Stephen Macy defend child molesters right to free speech to his death!! LOLLLL!!!!



Fuzzy, I'm not proud of the way I feel about the paul issue. Steve or anyone is free to look at every one of the 1000+ posts in the 10 months I've been doing boinc. They will find no other example of me picking on someone. They shouldn't judge based upon limited info.
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Message 119396 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 18:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 119377.  
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>>>And I'll like to see Stephen Macy defend child molesters right to free speech to his death!! LOLLLL!!!!

Well I'll defend everybody's right to free speech, regardless of what the speech consists of.

If a crime has been committed, then the perpetrator should be punished for committing that crime, but not for talking or fantasizing about it.

What constitutes a crime is open to debate, but for any kind of real debate you need to start with freedom of speech.

In a democracy you cannot please all of the people all of the time, there will always be people who will disagree with you and with whom you disagree.

If you don't like what someone says you should (imho) either engage constructively or just ignore.


Well I'm glad I got that off my chest, and I apologise if I offended anyone. This was not directed at any individual, I just feel strongly about freedom and democracy.

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Message 119414 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 18:51:50 UTC - in response to Message 119396.  
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Well I'm glad I got that off my chest, and I apologise if I offended anyone. This was not directed at any individual, I just feel strongly about freedom and democracy.


You did not offend me. EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE has the freedom to express themselves. It not that I disagree with the opinions of others that have been posted. I don't always agree with the level of action that some feel they must take.

I have rights too!!

Let us say for argument sake you had a neighbor who every day came to you house and rang your door bell. When you answered the door that neighbor proceeded to bitch about another neighbor. Everyday the same bitch, but each day said in a different manner. Would you not tell this person to stop?

If you have repeatedly ask this person to stop and yet they continued would you not try your best to ignore this person?

Once ignored this person then started knocking on your all your windows and all your doors, would you not want this person to move to a different neighborhood or have them locked up?

He has been asked politely to stop and move on to the next topic. He has refused..

He has been ignored. He creates multiple threads with the same rethoric dominating the board.

He has been asked to stop and refuses.

There is a fine line between Freedom of Expression and Being a Nuisance and to many of us that line has been crossed. We have asked him to stop, but he continues.




I'd rather speak my mind because it hurts too much to bite my tongue.

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Message 119446 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 19:35:00 UTC - in response to Message 119220.  

I don't do classic anymore, but I still post there. Are you saying thats wrong? Paul does classic and you are saying that he shouldn't post here because he hasn't changed yet.
I think Paul has every right to post here and personal attacks on anyone is stupid made by stupid people. If you and others wish to take this as a personal attack, Please do!
I disagree with some of his posts, but will defend his rights to my death!


Steven,
You argue that Zippy has a "right" to post here, but the right you are referring to, freedom of speech, is not as broad as you seem to think it is. Anyone can give their political views, but not anywhere or under any circumstances. Certainly you must know that some restrictions have always applied to this right: e.g. calling a black man a "nigger" in anger, or entering a synagog to denounce Judaism are as bad, and as restricted, as crying "fire" in a crowded theater (which is the classic example of restriction on speech).

This forum is not a soapbox in the park where such political ideas may be freely expressed, it is a forum set up for the users of SETI/BOINC, and as such, certain rules may be created for the contributors to this project so that these forums may be enjoyed by those who are permitted to use them. If Berkeley says there will be no attacks, no spamming, no flooding of the boards, etc. that's well withing their right to control the flow of information here.

If an ignore setting is not a restriction on the Constitutional right of freedom of speech, how is having a disruptive, unproductive poster post in a single thread (to be more easily ignored) a violation of such right? What Tony is trying to do here is not a violation of anyone's "rights".

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