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pwillener Send message Joined: 21 Dec 02 Posts: 101 Credit: 63,823 RAC: 0 |
Running BOINC 4.32 with S@H 4.09 and ClimatePrediction 4.10 on WinXP-SP2. When rebooting Windows I get a pop-up "Connection Failed". I can see the BOINC Manager icon in the systray, and when I open it there are no projects, and an information at the bottom says "Disconnected". When I exit BOINC Manager and start anew, then the projects attach and start crunching. I have not seen this behavior before 4.32 (I think). |
Pascal, K G Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2343 Credit: 150,491 RAC: 0 |
open BOINC, Go to file, then select computer, then hit OK and you should connect, if that fails enter localhost and then enter and that should connect..... Semper Eadem So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride. Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No. |
pwillener Send message Joined: 21 Dec 02 Posts: 101 Credit: 63,823 RAC: 0 |
> open BOINC, Go to file, then select computer, then hit OK and you should > connect, if that fails enter localhost and then enter and that should > connect..... Thanks; I will try that next time I reboot. |
FireGate_13 Send message Joined: 10 Feb 03 Posts: 106 Credit: 304,540 RAC: 0 |
I have the same problem too.. I think the reason for this is antivirus software.. When my computer starts my antivirus(Norton 2005) scans all programs in memory. This results boinc manager to freeze for 3-4 seconds on the desctop.. This leads to the expiration of the "waiting to connect" time. The above post gives a solution but I think it is boring to do this every time my pc boots... So, why can't they extend this time ? Firegate_13 Was Here! BeWare! Patras Wireless Metropolitan NetWork |
Geoff Smith Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 9 Credit: 5,140,510 RAC: 19 |
> So, why can't they extend this time ? > I have the same issue, how can we get an extended delay added to the wish list? |
De Zwirek Send message Joined: 20 Feb 05 Posts: 29 Credit: 2,507,179 RAC: 1 |
> > So, why can't they extend this time ? > > > > I have the same issue, how can we get an extended delay added to the wish > list? > Agreed! But why not have it try multiple times - let us say once every 15 seconds until it succeeds or until 2 minutes, then fail with the message box that it now has. Does anybody involved in the maintenance of BOINC read these threads? If so can you confirm whether something will be done to address this problem? Can you please do the same for other threads? BESTEST! |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13727 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
> But why not have it try multiple times - let us say once every 15 seconds > until it succeeds or until 2 minutes, then fail with the message box that it > now has. End result would be some serious hammering of the server when everyone tries to connect after an outage. And it's already bad enough as it is. Just increasing the intial timeout value by 20% would be more than sufficient i would think. Grant Darwin NT |
De Zwirek Send message Joined: 20 Feb 05 Posts: 29 Credit: 2,507,179 RAC: 1 |
> > But why not have it try multiple times - let us say once every 15 > seconds > > until it succeeds or until 2 minutes, then fail with the message box that > it > > now has. > > End result would be some serious hammering of the server when everyone tries > to connect after an outage. And it's already bad enough as it is. > > Just increasing the intial timeout value by 20% would be more than sufficient > i would think. > I bow to your superior and more informed suggestion! BESTEST! |
Geoff Smith Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 9 Credit: 5,140,510 RAC: 19 |
i've registered myself on the bug reporting system and logged this isue there. I've included a link to this thread so let's see what happens. |
S@NL - EJG Send message Joined: 21 Apr 00 Posts: 64 Credit: 25,162,101 RAC: 0 |
I have the same problem on two PC's (Win2000 / WinXP pro SP2). It looks like my WinME machine does not have this problem. All are running Boinc 4.35. To try to get Boincmanager to start later I introduced a delay of 60 seconds after logging on to Windows2000. I made a bach file that started from the Windows startup folder, waited for 60 seconds and started Boincmanager. This is what happened: Windows started normally, as well as the batch file. 45 Seconds after logging on (it's a slow PC), Windows and all programs completely started. For 15 seconds there was no harddisk activity. Then the batch file continued and started Boincmanager..... and the "connection failed" message appeared again. :-( So this delay does NOT help. Closing and starting Boincmanager after the failure works fine. Or just going to "file-select computer" and pressing Enter works to get a connection. It looks like only the first time Boinc starts from the startup folder after a system boot it is not able to establish a connection. Strange. |
Contact Send message Joined: 16 Jan 00 Posts: 195 Credit: 2,249,004 RAC: 0 |
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Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>Curious. Is everyone with "Connection Failed" on every boot running behind a Software Firewall or Virus protection? Also, do links to projects through GUI cause problems? I have intermittant problems with ZoneAlarm. Seen other reports of AntiVirus software not working nice with BOINC.</blockquote> here is my Sort of Work around, The best way so far is to Install the new App but dont run it untill you go to internet apps and re give it permissions. BOINC.EXE BOINCmgr. and BOINC.SCR....... Then run the program. Works 98% of the time. |
S@NL - EJG Send message Joined: 21 Apr 00 Posts: 64 Credit: 25,162,101 RAC: 0 |
At the moment I have three PC's with this problem, two without. For the other PC's I'm afraid to upgrade, because they are on someones desk at work and I don't want to bother that people with the popup windows. And well... if they only click the error window away, Boinc doesn't work anyway. The three PC's that do have the problem all have a firewall. Two are using ZoneAlarm, the other is using the internal Windows XP SP2 firewall. So the problem is not specific to ZA. The Windows firewall does NOT ask anything after upgrading Boinc, it just allows the program access and does not bother about upgrades. So I assume this should always work. PC1: Pentium 4 - 2.26GHz - 512Mb RAM - WinXP Pro SP2 - Windows firewall PC2: Pentium 4 - 2.4GHz - 512Mb RAM - Win2000 - ZoneAlarm firewall PC3: Pentium 3 - 500MHz - 128Mb RAM - Win2000 - ZoneAlarm firewall Two computers (at home) do NOT have this problem. They are connected to PC1 for internet access (ADSL) and do not have a firewall installed. Boinc is installed as single user on all 5 PC's. |
De Zwirek Send message Joined: 20 Feb 05 Posts: 29 Credit: 2,507,179 RAC: 1 |
Both my machines have the problem - one with XP Pro SP1 and the other with WIN2K - both running ZoneAlarm, one with Symantic Anti-Virus and the other with e-Trust Anti-Virus. BESTEST! |
Contact Send message Joined: 16 Jan 00 Posts: 195 Credit: 2,249,004 RAC: 0 |
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The Bee Send message Joined: 13 Apr 04 Posts: 17 Credit: 7,783 RAC: 0 |
I've got 4.42 and have this problem too. Zonelabs seems to think BOINC is trying to connect before ZoneAlarm has a chance to fully load. The part of ZoneAlarm that has loaded is blocking the connection until it finishes loading and finds out what the program is that's trying to connect. I've had alerts since I upgraded from an earlier version a couple of days ago. svchost.exe caused some alerts trying to connect to Port 53 of a DNS server via UDP, here's the info on Zonelabs' site: http://fwalerts.zonelabs.com/fwanalyze.jsp?record=ZLN32950396863444-1025/12bf5600103f68f6b9a001103&tab=details Another repeated alert tried to connect to Port 80 of another computer via TCP (flag:S) http://fwalerts.zonelabs.com/fwanalyze.jsp?record=ZLN32950396863444-1025/e0c07c0103f68f7edf00b77&tab=details Hope this helps track down the problem. |
Geoff Smith Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 9 Credit: 5,140,510 RAC: 19 |
ok. Still got the same problem here with 4.43 |
The Bee Send message Joined: 13 Apr 04 Posts: 17 Credit: 7,783 RAC: 0 |
I've got 4.42 and have this problem too. Zonelabs seems to think BOINC is trying to connect before ZoneAlarm has a chance to fully load. The part of ZoneAlarm that has loaded is blocking the connection until it finishes loading and finds out what the program is that's trying to connect. I've had alerts since I upgraded from an earlier version a couple of days ago. Fairly sure these alerts are caused by BOINC, but can anyone else with a firewall (or anyone from BOINC) verify this for me? It's possible I have another program causing these alerts. |
The Bee Send message Joined: 13 Apr 04 Posts: 17 Credit: 7,783 RAC: 0 |
I've got 4.42 and have this problem too. Zonelabs seems to think BOINC is trying to connect before ZoneAlarm has a chance to fully load. The part of ZoneAlarm that has loaded is blocking the connection until it finishes loading and finds out what the program is that's trying to connect. I've had alerts since I upgraded from an earlier version a couple of days ago. Nope, these alerts seem not to be caused by BOINC starting up after all. I got the Connection Failed pop-up this morning with no firewall alerts for the last 2 days, go figure! |
Contact Send message Joined: 16 Jan 00 Posts: 195 Credit: 2,249,004 RAC: 0 |
Still got the same problem here with 4.43 Yep. After a couple days and several reboots this problem reappeared on one of my hosts so far. Aaargh! |
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