This is a reminder to those who are posting in forums. I'm not a moderator or anything, just conserned (and sometimes annoyed) about excessive quoting of messages. Please observe that there are many boincers who use dial-up connections to Internet... So this is a kind appeal to you all, fellow forum posters.

A few general quidelines about quoting:

1. Do not quote the entire message you're replying to.
2. Quote only the part(s) you want to comment.
3. Do not use quote marks around/before your own text.
4. Do not include pictures in the quote.
5. Do not include signatures in the quote.
6. When you're replying to a message directly below, there's often unnecessarry to quote anything at all. Remember that quotes are used only to remind the original poster (and other readers) of what was said, so to avoid misunderstandings.
7. Please use a blank line between the quote and your own text, to make it more visible in a glance what is what.
8. Do not include trailing blank line(s) in the quote.
9. Do not quote the same post more than once directly after another, if you still can edit the first of your replies (within an hour).
10. Some things are probably missing in the 9 points above, so use common sense to compensate.

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Three more that I think need mentioning:
11 Post number-crunching issues in Numbers and scientific issues in Science. If neither one is appropriate, post in the Café.
12 Link to posts in other Fora - There's no need to have multiple copies of a message.
13 If you intend to use the <pre> tag, wrap at 80 colums. If you don't understand that, don't use <pre>.

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Yes, thanks NA.

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You're welcome, Bjorn.

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Reminds when of when I wrote my first published paper and the editor sent me instructions on how to mark a draft. OK I will try but I get sooooo excited that I forget these things.

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makes me wonder if I'm an excessive qouter, Bjorn ;)

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I stole them Bjorn and NA, so look around and you will see them posted on occasion

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

I expect a royalty check each time... !-D

Feel free when quoting it is necessary.

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Bruno,
> makes me wonder if I'm an excessive qouter, Bjorn ;)

I'll take that as a good philosophical statement... LOL
Well, we've all been there. Nobody's perfect. :)

Pascal,
> I stole them Bjorn and NA, so look around and you will see them posted on occasion

Stole what? OK, you're forgiven this time. ;)

(Now I'll shut up before this rant turns into a cafe topic...)

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From now on they will be referred to as the RULE of THIRTEEN.

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

> From now on they will be referred to as the RULE of THIRTEEN.
>

ROT ;-)

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No matter where you go, there you are...

> Bruno,
> > makes me wonder if I'm an excessive qouter, Bjorn ;)
>
> I'll take that as a good philosophical statement... LOL

:D

> Well, we've all been there. Nobody's perfect. :)

True :) Especielly when in a hurry etc ;)

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Still it seems quite a few people can benefit from reading this, so I'll just sum up a few general quidelines about quoting (user NA has contributed with 10-12):

1. Do not quote the entire message you're replying to.
2. Quote only the part(s) you want to comment.
3. Do not use quote marks around/before your own text.
4. Do not include pictures in the quote.
5. Do not include signatures in the quote.
6. When you're replying to a message directly below, there's often unnecessarry to quote anything at all. Remember that quotes are used only to remind the original poster (and other readers) of what was said, so to avoid misunderstandings.
7. Please use a blank line between the quote and your own text, to make it more visible in a glance what is what.
8. Do not include trailing blank line(s) in the quote.
9. Do not quote the same post more than once directly after another, if you still can edit the first of your replies (within an hour).
10. Post number-crunching issues in Numbers and scientific issues in Science. If neither one is appropriate, post in the Cafe.
11. Link to posts in other Fora - There's no need to have multiple copies of a message.
12. If you intend to use the pre tag, wrap at 80 colums. If you don't understand that, don't use pre.

13. Some things are probably missing in the 12 points above, so use common sense to compensate.

Thank you for your understanding!

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I really wouldn't worry too much about this quoting thing. People that use common sense are going to and people who don't simply won't. People will do as they do simply because the ones without common sense are lazy. Besides that, this is about all that really counts anyway:

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Do not use obscene language or threaten other participants; we may delete such messages.

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You mentioned the Shunned? Ouch!

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HachPi wrote:

> Is WordWeaver back ???

13a. On the other side of the coin, don't post a message "out of the blue". You can reply to a post or a particular thread, but any statements that don't appear to respond to any post in the thread, or fit the subject of the thread, will generate responses simply to find out what is being asked or commented on.

Just a little note on forum quoting... I wrote a patch a week or two ago that was just introduced in to S@H that changes the quoting from using the > character, which had issues like breaking hyperlinks (or hyperlinks carrying on from one line to another) and not spacing properly for quoted images... and generally not being as pretty, to use the <blockquote> tag. <blockquote> was designed for just such a task - identify blocks of quoted text.

The CSS I wrote just as an example wasn't introduced, I see, so we're still seeing pretty bare formatting (just an indent) but I hope to remedy that situation later. :-)

Encase something in the <blockquote> tag and it'll be quoted (that is, put quoted text between <blockquote> and </blockquote>). You'll notice there's currently a whole lot of space below such a tag, especially if you double-space between the <blockquote> and the rest of your text... one of the CSS things that needs to be fixed is that. :-)

If you're used to quoting inline (as I am) you'll have to </blockquote>, write your response, and then <blockquote> to start the quoting again after your response point.

Any questions? Comments? Somebody want to write some nice pretty CSS for the S@H forum blockquote tag? :-)

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Rob

This quoting thing seems like much ado about nothing IMHO.

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<blockquote>You'll notice there's currently a whole lot of space below such a tag, especially if you double-space between the <blockquote> and the rest of your text... one of the CSS things that needs to be fixed is that</blockquote>
Ah, i was going to suggest just a line or 2 spacing. But as it's on The List of Things To Do, i won't.

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Grant
Darwin NT