Ok, so Pauls documentation gives a very detailed explination of how "granted credit" is calculated. I kind of was able to follow it, and obviously Paul knows more about how boinc works then most of us, but here's my question. It <strong>seems</strong> as though granted credit is always the middle amount claimed. In other words, 3 results are all that is needed for credit to be granted. If one machine claims 20, another 25, and another 40, the credit granted to all (including the 4th person if they complete) is 25. Is this ever <strong>not</strong> the case? The documentation would seem to imply there is more to it then this, but I've not been able to find a WU (in my limited searching) that did not follow this logic.

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If all valid results #3+4 arrive within a shortt timespan, and the validator only comes there after the 4th is in, the median of the middle ones is the chosen value.
If the validator only validates 3, the 'median of the middle ones' is just this, the middle one ;), and the later arriving 4th will get what was decided before.

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> Ok, so Pauls documentation gives a very detailed explination of how "granted
> credit" is calculated. I kind of was able to follow it, and obviously Paul
> knows more about how boinc works then most of us, ...

Actually, I sometimes wonder. But to keep the record straight there are a *LOT* of people that have contributed, criticised, corrected, spindled, folded and mentalated my site ... :)

In the scheduling and credit area John Keck, John McLeod VII, and others kept me on the straight and narrow. In the early days I was not always able to assign a single name to text as it was developed over time with refinements added. Especially places like Credit, the work goes back more than a year now to work done in the very early days of the Beta project.

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Ah yes, that ceratinly is a LOT of documentation. In the spirit of the documentation being a colaborative effort, in that particular section of documentation it refers to the "median" as the average, but it should read "mean" which is average.

"Use the median (average) of all of the amounts of credit claimed by all of the participants in the Quorum of Results. "

> > Ok, so Pauls documentation gives a very detailed explination of how
> "granted
> > credit" is calculated. I kind of was able to follow it, and obviously
> Paul
> > knows more about how boinc works then most of us, ...
>
> Actually, I sometimes wonder. But to keep the record straight there are a
> *LOT* of people that have contributed, criticised, corrected, spindled, folded
> and mentalated my site ... :)
>
> In the scheduling and credit area John Keck, John McLeod VII, and others kept
> me on the straight and narrow. In the early days I was not always able to
> assign a single name to text as it was developed over time with refinements
> added. Especially places like Credit, the work goes back more than a year now
> to work done in the very early days of the Beta project.
>
>

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> Ah yes, that ceratinly is a LOT of documentation. In the spirit of the
> documentation being a colaborative effort, in that particular section of
> documentation it refers to the "median" as the average, but it should read
> "mean" which is average.
>
> "Use the median (average) of all of the amounts of credit claimed by all of
> the participants in the Quorum of Results. "

In the spirit I screwed up ... it is fixed ... also fixed were the two pages on pending credit in the Web Site Owner's Manual ... Global Search is your friend.

Fred,

Don't hesitate to bring mistakes to my attention ...

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LOL. Never want to appear to be a critical jerk, especially when being the new kid on the block. ;)


> In the spirit I screwed up ... it is fixed ... also fixed were the two pages
> on pending credit in the Web Site Owner's Manual ... Global Search is your
> friend.
>
> Fred,
>
> Don't hesitate to bring mistakes to my attention ...
>

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> LOL. Never want to appear to be a critical jerk, especially when being the
> new kid on the block. ;)
Yes sir mister, you have to be here another month or two before you can be like the rest of us Critical Jerks. Rotflmao

lol

tony

> LOL. Never want to appear to be a critical jerk, especially when being the
> new kid on the block. ;)

Fred,

As much as I beg people to look there first, well, if you look at the numbers on the pages you can see that you can lead a drink to water but you cannot make him horse ...

Be as critical as you like ... I do try to work on it every day, but I know I have spelling mistakes, wrong data (mostly because I can't work fast enough so ti gets out of date), material that is confusing, poorly organized, etc.

Though we do have some strengths to go with that ... the site is searchable and though new material does not always get indexed the bulk of it stays the same and so the core is findable.

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Though we do have some strengths to go with that ... the site is searchable
> and though new material does not always get indexed the bulk of it stays the
> same and so the core is findable.
>
Hey Senior Cheif,
The site is fanatastic and has helped me and many others tremendously. But the one thing that is better than the site itself, is your Input when there are questions. You carry the torch that so many others drop along the way, in your overall responses that "If I don't Know I Will Find Out and Get Back To You". And you have done it courteously and professionally, even though some of my questions have seemed like they were completely in left field.(Where I usually will be found). It is with this information that you share with all, that has made this a better project.

Hope You Are Feeling Well,
Have A Great Day And A Beter Tomorrow!

Respectfully,

Rocky

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> Yes sir mister, you have to be here another month or two before you can be
> like the rest of us Critical Jerks. Rotflmao

Hey, wait a second! I resemble that remark!

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> Hey, wait a second! I resemble that remark!

Yes, Ned ... you too are one that resembles that comment ... as are others ...

Heck I conly come here so I can steal other peoples explanations .. :)

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> Heck I conly come here so I can steal other peoples explanations .. :)
>
ARRRRG Mateys,,,, he Confesses his Piracy.... Get the Bloke a tankard of rum....Arrrrrg.

> > Heck I conly come here so I can steal other peoples explanations .. :)
> >
> ARRRRG Mateys,,,, he Confesses his Piracy.... Get the Bloke a tankard of
> rum....Arrrrrg.

It isn't called "piracy" it's called "research."

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He doesn't mean to be mean...what he means is that mean is not median.

> He doesn't mean to be mean...what he means is that mean is not median.

ROTFL!

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> It isn't called "piracy" it's called "research."

Steal from one it is plagiarism ...

Steal from 20 and it is research.

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Steal from one it is plagiarism ...

Steal from 20 and it is ART.

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>
> Steal from one it is plagiarism ...
>
> Steal from 20 and it is ART.

Fiddle everyone else's stats and it's meta analysis. :)

BTW a median is a measure of average tendency. Where the data are skewed, the median is the better number for central tendency compared to the mean (which will be inflated or deflated).

> BTW a median is a measure of average tendency. Where the data are
> skewed, the median is the better number for central tendency compared to the
> mean (which will be inflated or deflated).

M is that the explaination of sex for statisticions?

:-)

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> > BTW a median is a measure of average tendency. Where the data
> are
> > skewed, the median is the better number for central tendency compared to
> the
> > mean (which will be inflated or deflated).
>
> M is that the explaination of sex for statisticions?

ROTFLAO

Just remember we statisticians know how to massage the inputs. :)

Darn, now I'm just reminding myself of work, spent most of today buried in SAS trying to clean up data.