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xilef Send message Joined: 18 Jul 01 Posts: 43 Credit: 17,485,094 RAC: 0 |
I have had 22 4.10 WU's in my cache for 5-6 days, SETI refuses to respond (no schedulers responded). I have seen that others have reverted back to 4.09, but I can't find a way to do that. Today I upgraded to BOINC 4.25 in hopes that it would jolt SETI into some sort of response...Nothing but more deferred communication. I'll keep these 22 "ready to report" WU's until they expire next week, then I guess I'll reset, unless someone tells me which hoop to jump through to report & save this work. LHC & Einstein are now splitting SETI's 50% share...Before I added Einstein this week SETI was getting 100%, while LHC was making WU's. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Hi Did you hit manually update? I had no problems to report my 4.10 results. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
MikeSW17 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1603 Credit: 2,700,523 RAC: 0 |
Going back to 4.09 will happen automatically - when you next download work, it will recognize that this work must be processed by 4.09 and download the appropriate .Exe if you don't already have it. But all that's not going to happen until a scheduler responds! Since there are no current problems at Berkeley, you should be getting scheduler response - not 100% of the time perhaps, but 90% or better. So the problem seems to lie at your end.... Two things come to mind: a) Firewall, do you have one (WinXP SP2=Yes, 3rd Party=Maybe). Is it allowing 'setiathome_4.10_windows_intelx86.Exe' access? (4.09 would have had access, 4.10 needs the same) You've upgraded to BOINC 4.25, same firewall question (if other projects are working, this shouldn't be an issue) b) Some problem/corruption of your SETI account file (account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml) |
Holmis Send message Joined: 1 Jun 99 Posts: 30 Credit: 951,184 RAC: 0 |
> a) Firewall, do you have one (WinXP SP2=Yes, 3rd Party=Maybe). > Is it allowing 'setiathome_4.10_windows_intelx86.Exe' access? (4.09 would have > had access, 4.10 needs the same) > You've upgraded to BOINC 4.25, same firewall question (if other projects are > working, this shouldn't be an issue) I never had to give the seti app access through the firewall, nor any of the other projects apps. Only boinc needs it. |
Pooh Bear 27 Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0 |
Did you never download the 4.10 executable? If not, and it was pulled, you may need to abort the 4.10 WUs. I know that hurts others, but it may be the only way out. My movie https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/502242 |
Aurora Borealis Send message Joined: 14 Jan 01 Posts: 3075 Credit: 5,631,463 RAC: 0 |
Just a random thought here. If you're using a modem or slow DSL... I have had problems of Seti site timing out more easily than other projects if my P2P is on. Boinc V7.2.42 Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470 |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
> I have had 22 4.10 WU's in my cache for 5-6 days, SETI refuses to respond (no > schedulers responded). I have seen that others have reverted back to 4.09, but > I can't find a way to do that. Today I upgraded to BOINC 4.25 in hopes that it > would jolt SETI into some sort of response...Nothing but more deferred > communication. I'll keep these 22 "ready to report" WU's until they expire > next week, then I guess I'll reset, unless someone tells me which hoop to jump > through to report & save this work. LHC & Einstein are now splitting > SETI's 50% share...Before I added Einstein this week SETI was getting 100%, > while LHC was making WU's. > Morning, Are you successfully contacting, uploading, and Reporting work to Einstein and/or LHC? It seems there is a problem. However, It appears to be most likely with the client (your puter). If you can work with Einstein and/or LHC than we'll have to narrow this down some. hope this helps tony I can connect right now: 4/10/2005 9:29:34 AM|SETI@home|Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 4/10/2005 9:29:38 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded 4/10/2005 9:29:38 AM|SETI@home|Host location: home 4/10/2005 9:29:38 AM|SETI@home|Using your default project prefs |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Hi From Einstein Homepage. April 7, 2005 During the next few days we will finish the first round of S3 analysis and begin a second round. As we finish up the first round of S3 analysis, users may find that they are getting a new data file with each workunit; users with modem connections may want to suspend Einstein@Home for a few days to avoid multiple long downloads. Note that there may also be some instability in a few days as we shift to new workunits. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
xilef Send message Joined: 18 Jul 01 Posts: 43 Credit: 17,485,094 RAC: 0 |
Thank you all for some thought provoking replies. I have the same feeling that the problem is at my end, but I have made no changes that would effect access. I am running Win XP but no Service Pack upgrades; Windows Firewall is not running, but Zone Alarm is allowing BOINC LHC & Einstein complete access and has always allowed SETI access (I have exited ZA and made attempts to contact schedulers with the same results); I have two 4.10 files (1 PDB & 1 Application) in my setiathome project folder & no 4.09 files; I am on dial up, but have attempted to connect to SETI at least 100 times at all times of day or night to report these WU's. I am not certain what a corruption of my SETI account file (account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml) entails., but when I open it with Mozilla a message appears at the top: "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.", which appears to be benign. I supposed that my authenticator number could be flawed, but I don't know how to check it against an accurate number. Still at a loss... |
MikeSW17 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1603 Credit: 2,700,523 RAC: 0 |
> Thank you all for some thought provoking replies. > > I have the same feeling that the problem is at my end, but I have made no > changes that would effect access. I am running Win XP but no Service Pack > upgrades; Windows Firewall is not running, but Zone Alarm is allowing BOINC > LHC & Einstein complete access and has always allowed SETI access (I have > exited ZA and made attempts to contact schedulers with the same results); I > have two 4.10 files (1 PDB & 1 Application) in my setiathome project > folder & no 4.09 files; I am on dial up, but have attempted to connect to > SETI at least 100 times at all times of day or night to report these WU's. > > I am not certain what a corruption of my SETI account file > (account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml) entails., but when I open it with > Mozilla a message appears at the top: > "This XML file does not appear to have any style information > associated with it. The document tree is shown below.", which appears to be > benign. I supposed that my authenticator number could be flawed, but I don't > know how to check it against an accurate number. > > Still at a loss... > I wondered if ZoneAlarm might be involved. Have you actually looked at the ZA program list to see what it has allowed. IMO ZA is very flakey about asking for permissions for programs even when it is set to 'Ask' You should have two entries, for BOINC Manager and BOINC Core Client. I know you said you tested with ZA off, but IMO ZA seems to have a fail-safe mode - unload it and the blocks/permissions remain in effect. Only removing it from startup and re-booting really gets rid of it. Also, you say You're running XP with No Service Packs? Is there a good reason for this? Many things changed in SP1 and SP2, and as of now, your system must be/becomming very insecure... even if you have previously kept up-to-date with security patches, MS withdrew Windowes Update support recently for pre-SP1. I doubt that there are many vanilla XP systems running BOINC, or that Berkeley are testing BOINC on original XP. This could simply be the whole problem. |
xilef Send message Joined: 18 Jul 01 Posts: 43 Credit: 17,485,094 RAC: 0 |
I completely removed ZA from start up, same thing. ZA actually has four entries for BOINC including the two left over from 4.19. I've attempted to upgrade SP1 a couple of times but some error always prevented success. So I quit trying; too much hassle on dial up...There will be another newer version of Windows out soon enough... I doubt that the lack of SP upgrades has any effect... LHC & Einstein keep plugging away and until last week I had no problem and probably won't after I reset next week. |
MikeSW17 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1603 Credit: 2,700,523 RAC: 0 |
> I completely removed ZA from start up, same thing. ZA actually has four > entries for BOINC including the two left over from 4.19. > > I've attempted to upgrade SP1 a couple of times but some error always > prevented success. So I quit trying; too much hassle on dial up...There will > be another newer version of Windows out soon enough... I doubt that the lack > of SP upgrades has any effect... LHC & Einstein keep plugging away and > until last week I had no problem and probably won't after I reset next week. > > > Hope it sorts out next week then. FYI, most decent Computer magazines carry a CD/DVD with the full SP2 every few issuesm, and MS will be happy to send you a CD (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx) I'm particularly concerned about one Windows XP vulnerability, the RPC worm (whatever it was called). IIRC this can either compromise your system or crash the RPC service. BOINC relies on the RPC service to communicate to/from manager-client. |
xilef Send message Joined: 18 Jul 01 Posts: 43 Credit: 17,485,094 RAC: 0 |
> > FYI, most decent Computer magazines carry a CD/DVD with the full SP2 every few > issuesm, and MS will be happy to send you a CD > I did not know this. Thanks. |
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