Not yet, but very soon (tomorrow?) we will reach a 100,000 users milestone in BOINC SETI@Home!

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Hang on a sec... I thought we had something like 800,000 users based on the user IDs?

Nevertheless, it's a good enough excuse for me to break open some champagne. !-D

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100K Users? How many Hosts?

tony

I missed the 100k But 200k should be in a week or so.

Scott

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> 100K Users? How many Hosts?
>
> tony
>

Around 220,000 hosts for S@H

Don't know homany of those are active or pending a merge though.

Average of 2.1 hosts / participant sounds reasonable.

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> Not yet, but <a> href="http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/graph-project.php?project=sah">very
> soon[/url] (tomorrow?) we will reach a 100,000 users milestone in BOINC
> SETI@Home!
>
>SETI classic has 5,000,000 USERS

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<img src='http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/993sah.png'><img src='http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/993eah.png'>

> > Not yet, but <a>
> href="http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/graph-project.php?project=sah">very
> > soon[/url] (tomorrow?) we will reach a 100,000 users milestone in BOINC
> > SETI@Home!
> >
> >SETI classic has 5,000,000 USERS
>
Hi

But you know many of them was crunching perhaps a handful units.
When i look at our stats from 18xx members are still 2xx active so how many may active on classic ?

greetz Mike

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

> Hi
>
> But you know many of them was crunching perhaps a handful units.
> When i look at our stats from 18xx members are still 2xx active so how many
> may active on classic ?
>
> greetz Mike
>
yet, but 100,000/5,000,000=0.02 it less than 0.11111=200/1800

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> > Hi
> >
> > But you know many of them was crunching perhaps a handful units.
> > When i look at our stats from 18xx members are still 2xx active so how
> many
> > may active on classic ?
> >
> > greetz Mike
> >
> yet, but 100,000/5,000,000=0.02 it less than 0.11111=200/1800
>

On Classic, the 5,000,000 figure is for anyone who ever signed up (which began in 1999). Many of those accounts are long since dead, and many were repeats where someone lost an ISP and had to open a new classic account. The number of active classic users was around 500,000 to 600,000 or so for much of the period. Thus, given that BOINC stats sites only include users who have successfully returned a workunit, a 1/5 to 1/6 ratio is probably more appropriate.

Users for SETI@Home Powered by BOINC is 98K, with 230K computers... which means that many Participants have more than one computer running ...

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We're getting really close now...:

Total users: 99,050
Total teams: 14,609
Total hosts: 94,285

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> We're getting really close now...:
>
> Total users: 99,050
> Total teams: 14,609
> Total hosts: 94,285
>
How can we have more users than hosts? They had to have a puter just to sign up, did they not?

Seti@Home stats:
XML date: 2005-04-08 19:45:25 GMT
08:19:31 old
Totals: Last Day:
Users 98,667 +415
Hosts 231,447 +1,237
Teams 14,566 +40
Countries 193 0
Total Credit 1,250,772,608 +7,578,368
BOINC STATS

The two sites do not agree on any thing lololol

SETI@Home Stats
Total Credit: 1,250,790,174
Recent Credit: 6,630,347
Total Users: 99,050
Total Teams: 14,609
Total Hosts: 94,285
Total Countries: 201
BOINC STATS for the world

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

> > We're getting really close now...:
> >
> > Total users: 99,050
> > Total teams: 14,609
> > Total hosts: 94,285
> >
> How can we have more users than hosts? They had to have a puter just to sign
> up, did they not?
>

Short answer NO....

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> The two sites do not agree on any thing lololol

I see your point... :)
Wonder wich one's correct?
BOINCStats and BOINC Synergy seems to be in agreement though...

Maybe Berkeley could beef up their own stats page a bit, just to show a few more official totals?

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> > We're getting really close now...:
> >
> > Total users: 99,050
> > Total teams: 14,609
> > Total hosts: 94,285
> >
> How can we have more users than hosts? They had to have a puter just to sign
> up, did they not?
>

I suspect this has something to do with a change Berkeley have made to the way hosts are merged. There is a note in the development mail-list that David Anderson has made a change to 'Zombify' old hosts.

Immediately after this was done there was a massive drop from 220,000 hosts to 94,000.

The participant count must also include users who have never returned a WU.

The true (active) participant count must be somewhere between 30K-60K.


Quote:

"> David 6 April 2005
> - Attempt to fix the situation where:
> 1) user merges hosts; hosts with lower IDs are folded
> into host with maximal ID, then deleted
> 2) If host's client_state.xml file still has one of the
> lower IDs, then the next time it contacts the scheduler,
> the host lookup fails and a new host record is created,
> which defeats the purpose of the merge.
>
> Solution:
> - When merge hosts, don't delete lower-ID records.
> Instead, change them to "zombie" state, in which:
> - userid is zero
> - rpc_seqno is ID of new host record
> - scheduler: if host is zombie, follow link to new host,
> send back its ID to client
>
"

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Umm interesting,

On the stats page that I got the figure of 94,000 hosts from (for the past 48hrs), the # Hosts has suddenly sprung back to 232,00 hosts. A glitch no doubt.
Better news though.

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the E@H server status page has a good review of database status.

http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/server_status.php

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PROUD TO BE TFFE!

Indeed! If only we could have something like that in SETI too...

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Hmmm... BOINC doesn't seem to get so many new crunchers every day as I anticipated. The classic S@H is generating twice as many new participants each day! (See users last 24 hours column)

The notice, about switching to BOINC, on top of the classic home page is too small to get noticed, IMO. And it's not informative enough either. It should say something more about the pros (and cons?) of converting. As the classic project comes nearer and nearer to a close, we risk to loose a whole bunch of crunchers who don't convert in time...

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