Interesting, guess this summer I may be back up to the usual amount.

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Thanks, and Keep on crunchin'
John Henry KI4JPL
Sevierville TN

I started with nothing,
and I still have some of it left.
<img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=989478996ebd8eadba8f0809051cdde2">

> Interesting, guess this summer I may be back up to the usual amount.
>
>
John, 6 is better than 4. If you go to "your account" and click on "computers" you'll notice your first system appears to have spawned a clone baby. If this isn't a new third computer you added on, then you might be able to merge the 1rst and 3rd one.

tony

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Hi Tony,
Thanks for the input. Went and merged as you suggested, will keep track of things easier then.
I didn't mean the comment as a cut down to anyone, so hope no one takes it that way. Just trying to say the limit is increasing.
Well, sort of, the limit increased to 6 on the slow computer, and still at 4 on the fast one. Reason being, I couldn't get any new downloads on the fast one yesterday at all, as the downloads weren't working until after 5:4? something pm, the slow one is at work, on netowrk all night, the fast one is my laptop that I take home, and didn't log in after downloads started working. oh well.
But it did run two climate predicts all night.
Just think, I just have 1017 hours left to go one cpdn, and even more on the other. Geese, it takes a long time, but that is life. Can't recreate the weather pattern, come up with a trend, and predict in a few minutes, could get a gypsy to do that.
I'll pause cpdn until I get seti back up to normal download limits, and party on from there.

Thanks,
John

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Thanks, and Keep on crunchin'
John Henry KI4JPL
Sevierville TN

I started with nothing,
and I still have some of it left.
<img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=989478996ebd8eadba8f0809051cdde2">

> Interesting, guess this summer I may be back up to the usual amount.
>
>

What is your "% of time client is on" and "% of time user is active" for whatever computer you're having problems with?

For a user only running BOINC 8 hours/day, the 1st will be 33% while under v4.1x the 2nd will also be 33%, the 2nd is always smaller than 1st under v4.1x
Under v4.2x on the other hand the 2nd should be close to 100% if you let projects run all the time you let BOINC run.

If a computer have been off for some time, or possibly also due to changing date/time, one or both of these numbers can be very small. When you starts running BOINC more, these numbers will start increasing again.

Someone with low numbers upgrading to v4.2x will initially get less work than previously, till active_frac has increased. Not sure, but probably after a fortnight the numbers is fairly normal again.

BTW, v4.1x also asks for 2N days of work, while v4.2x only asks for N days of work. The benchmarks under v4.2x is also lower on windows-computers, both of these things means gets less work than previously.

Ahh, now this may explain my wu limit predicament even more.
When we had all of the down time of the networks, I had shifted back to seticlassic, because I had better luck with seticlassic uploading/downloading than I did with BOINC.
So for about 2-3 weeks, during the power outage disasters, BOINC was not on that much at all.
So my %'s you requested are showing very low.
Now that seticlassic is gone (or going), I'll just stick with BOINC.
This approach I took, to still get things up/downloaded, as for some reason, when I tried BOINC, it never worked, but seticlassic did, mind you, I'm only talking about the power outage times, and it probably wasn't a boinc thing, it probably was a network load thing.
Anyway, Seticlassic/setispy/setidriver is gone (but not forgotten), and BOINC has 100% activity now.
So maybe it won't be this summer that I am back online fully, but could be in a week or so.
As for the others in my group, hope they chill and learn to (as someone suggested earlier) drink a little less coffee.
Thanks to everyone for inputs, and I'm sure this will all work out fine.

Keep on crunchin'
John Henry
Sevierville, TN

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Thanks, and Keep on crunchin'
John Henry KI4JPL
Sevierville TN

I started with nothing,
and I still have some of it left.
<img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=989478996ebd8eadba8f0809051cdde2">

> John Henry
> Sevierville, TN
>
I drive past you regularly on my trips from Michigan to South Carolina. I take 40. This doesn't mean I'll stop by or anything. LOL

tony

Go Vols

> So my %'s you requested are showing very low.
> Sevierville, TN
>
not that i am advocating messing with .xml files unless you feel comfortable doing so, you can royally screw up your settings.
that said, you can adjust those percentages back to a more realistic number.

and i lived in Knoxville for a short period, then asheville, now in Atlanta. I really miss the mountains in NC...

glad you have stuck with this, i did enjoy your PC's request for 1.08seconds of work ;)

Micah

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> I drive past you regularly on my trips from Michigan to South Carolina. I
> take 40. This doesn't mean I'll stop by or anything. LOL

If I'm guessing right about where John works, the Jupiter and Orion transcievers are very cool.

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> Ahh, now this may explain my wu limit predicament even more.
> When we had all of the down time of the networks, I had shifted back to
> seticlassic, because I had better luck with seticlassic uploading/downloading
> than I did with BOINC.
> So for about 2-3 weeks, during the power outage disasters, BOINC was not on
> that much at all.
> So my %'s you requested are showing very low.
> Now that seticlassic is gone (or going), I'll just stick with BOINC.
> This approach I took, to still get things up/downloaded, as for some reason,
> when I tried BOINC, it never worked, but seticlassic did, mind you, I'm only
> talking about the power outage times, and it probably wasn't a boinc thing, it
> probably was a network load thing.
> Anyway, Seticlassic/setispy/setidriver is gone (but not forgotten), and BOINC
> has 100% activity now.
> So maybe it won't be this summer that I am back online fully, but could be in
> a week or so.
> As for the others in my group, hope they chill and learn to (as someone
> suggested earlier) drink a little less coffee.
> Thanks to everyone for inputs, and I'm sure this will all work out fine.
>
> Keep on crunchin'
> John Henry
> Sevierville, TN

According to this post the limit should start going up pretty fast.

... and your machines probably look artificially slow because of the switch back to classic.

BOINC is clearly subject to loading issues after an outage. I think the BOINC client parameters are good for times when everything is up, but it needs to back off farther when times are bad -- to spread the load when a project starts back.

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>
> According to this
> post the limit should start going up pretty fast.
>

The problem for jshenry1963 is the client doesn't ask for more work due to very low active_frac and on_frac, and has nothing to do with daily quota. This also means isn't increasing so fast back to "normal".

Hi Ned,

Yep, you guessed exactly right. Its either there or at Dollywood, and I wanted to work on technical items, not on what is between the cleavage. For those that know Dolly.
Been here only 6 mos as Philips moved from this area, been with Philips many years, and they closed up shop took the development back to Europe. Oh well.

To others, I am now leaving it online 100% of time, with almost two seti's running, cpdn is suspended for now until I can get seti limits back up. That is about the only thing running on it. So we shall see how quickly it comes back up in wu allotment.
FYI, not really 100%, as I do shut it down to go home, and then back on, and then shut it down to come back to radioland/work, then back up again.

CYA
John Henry
Sevierville, TN

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Thanks, and Keep on crunchin'
John Henry KI4JPL
Sevierville TN

I started with nothing,
and I still have some of it left.
<img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=989478996ebd8eadba8f0809051cdde2">

> Hi Ned,
>
> Yep, you guessed exactly right.

I know you guys make some pretty cool stuff, but I'm not licensed for some of the other products.... :-)

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Just an update.
I got the work unit limit increased to 6, went to bed, and was only running seti. Computer finished them all several hours before I got up, and since I can't leave it connected overnight, it couldn't upload them, nor did it get anymore during that time.
So the work unit limit is kinda hindering chances of catching back up.
I don't want to babysit it every 6 hours or so.
Especially with a weekend coming up, will be done with 6 on friday night, and then I won't be able to upload anymore, so I won't be able to increase my work unit limit.
Oh well, catch22.
All those wasted cycles. I think I'll cry. Maybe commit harikarishna, no way, they are just wasted cycles, I can live on without them... OH NO>>AAHHHHHHH

hah,
just kidding,
but there will be lots of wasted this weekend, AND every night as I can't be online 24 hours a day, so I can't upload when they are done. oh well.

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Thanks, and Keep on crunchin'
John Henry KI4JPL
Sevierville TN

I started with nothing,
and I still have some of it left.
<img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=989478996ebd8eadba8f0809051cdde2">

Commit harikarishna?
hmmm :) I think you mean you'll maybe commit hara-kiri.

hare krishna is a cult following based on a Hindu religion, I think you got your words mixed up.

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Hi,
Yep, know the difference, was just trying to have some fun.
John

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Thanks, and Keep on crunchin'
John Henry KI4JPL
Sevierville TN

I started with nothing,
and I still have some of it left.
<img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=989478996ebd8eadba8f0809051cdde2">

> I got the work unit limit increased to 6, went to bed, and was only running
> seti. Computer finished them all several hours before I got up, and since I
> can't leave it connected overnight, it couldn't upload them, nor did it get
> anymore during that time.

I was thinking about this.....

Is the problem dial-up access? If so, you should be able to let BOINC dial in (it may take some fiddling to get all the rights correct, but I think it's possible).

Plan "B" would be to pick up an inexpensive DSL modem that has dial-backup, and just not use the WAN port at all -- so all connections are using the dial-backup feature.

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> hah,
> just kidding,
> but there will be lots of wasted this weekend, AND every night as I can't be
> online 24 hours a day, so I can't upload when they are done. oh well.
>

Didn't you have a couple CPDN-wu waiting to be crunched on this computer? If so, just give CPDN a low resource-share like 1, and seti a high like 1000, and you shouldn't have any problems.

active_frac and on_frac is for the computer as a whole, not for running a specific project, so they will not increase faster by only running one project. ;)

> Didn't you have a couple CPDN-wu waiting to be crunched on this computer? If
> so, just give CPDN a low resource-share like 1, and seti a high like 1000, and
> you shouldn't have any problems.

you may not want to make it quite so different. For me atleast, a CP WU takes about 30 days of CPU time to crunch, and has a deadline of one year. Therefore, it must be running 1/12 of the time to complete on my P4 2.4g. Also, if CP doesn't see a trickle on a certain interval, the WU is thought to be dead by CP and gets re-issued (I forget the interval, but IIRC it's on the order of a couple weeks)

Something like 10 for CP and 100 for Seti might be more appropriate.

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