<p align="center"> <br /> Karol J&oacute;zef Wojty&#x0142;a (Pope John Paul II) 1920-2005</p>

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> <p align="center"> <br /> Karol Józef Wojtyla (Pope John Paul II) 1920-2005</p>
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God bless your soul.

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"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

So sad, But he sad "celebrate life"!

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Can't say I believe in his religion, his politics, or his social agenda, but I can still light a candle for a good man who meant well.

God bless him and rest in peace.

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The world is a disk, and all people other opinion are land on the heap of failure

not long ago...

Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 ©

Karol Józef Wojtyła ..... (Pope John Paul II)..... (1920-2005).... may his _ Humanity _ his Passion _ and his Eloquence .... live for ever.



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good Words Byron...

Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 ©

thank you ..... <A><B>NA&5boroK --- My Very Best Wishes.</B>[/url]



and thanks Ulli .... for your very kind words .. To .... Ulli .. my very good friend in Germany ........ from your very good friend .. byron .. in Canada




<A><B> ____ I think that ......... Karol Józef Wojtyla ____ (Pope John Paul II) ... 1920-2005 __ would have agree with __ Albert Einstein __ Words ........ </B>[/url]




Albert Einstien ........ wrote the following:

a human being is a part of a whole, called by us humans as the universe .... a part limited in time and space we humans experiences our selfs , our thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest.......... a kind of optical delusion of our consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us humans, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us


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___ our task as ___ humans ___ must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace . all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty </B>

Karol Józef Wojtyła ..... (Pope John Paul II)..... (1920-2005).... may his _ Humanity _ his Passion _ and his Eloquence .... live for ever.



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VERY well said, Byron... Thank You...

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May he rest in peace.

> thank you ..... <A><B>NA&5boroK --- My Very Best Wishes.</B>[/url]
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> a part limited in time and space we humans experiences our selfs , our
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> optical delusion of our consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison
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> few persons nearest to us
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Funny, you should mention this, Byron.

[url=http://home.att.net/~rayfontaine/page_18.htm]Pope John Paul II versus Albert Einstein
regarding the Revelation of God<a>

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"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

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Pope John Paul II
versus Albert Einstein
regarding the Revelation of God<a>



HI .. Fuzzy Hollynoodles

thank you very much for that link ...
I have got some reading to do ...
on first glance looks very interesting


friendly and respectful
byron ... _ Earth Flag

Carl Sagan is my hero , may his _ Humanity _ his Passion _ and his Eloquence _ Live forever.

In many respects, Pope John Paul II lived a principled life and accomplished much to help some people, but his role in the Catholic church child-rape incidents and cover-ups should never be forgotten.

When it came to protecting the children, he aided and abetted the predators.

Excerpt:
"Cardinal Law isn't going to face a court, now. He has fled the jurisdiction and lives in Rome, where a sinecure at the Vatican has been found for him. (Actually not that much of a sinecure: As archpriest of the Rome Basilica of St. Mary Major, he also sits on two boards supervising priestly discipline—yes!—and the appointment of diocesan bishops.)

Even before this, he visited Rome on at least one occasion to discuss whether or not the church should obey American law. And it has been conclusively established that the Vatican itself—including his holiness—was a part of the coverup and obstruction of justice that allowed the child-rape scandal to continue for so long."

[Update, April 4, 2005: And to add injury to insult as well as insult to injury, this wicked old fugitive will, in the coming days, be a part of the holy conclave that assembles to decide on the next Pope. Could anything be more disgusting?]
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Another perspective on the legacy of John Paul ll.

Excerpt:

"Once ensconced in power, John Paul II set about rolling back the liberal achievements of Vatican 2. Prominent liberal theologians were summoned to his throne for a dressing down. One of his prime aims was to restore to papal hands the power that had been decentralised to the local churches. In the early church, laymen and women elected their own bishops. Vatican 2 didn't go as far as that, but it insisted on the doctrine of collegiality - that the Pope was not to be seen as capo di tutti capi, but as first among equals."

"John Paul, however, acknowledged equality with nobody. From his early years as a priest, he was notable for his exorbitant belief in his own spiritual and intellectual powers. Graham Greene once dreamed of a newspaper headline reading "John Paul canonises Jesus Christ". Bishops were summoned to Rome to be given their orders, not for fraternal consultation. Loopy far-right mystics and Francoists were honoured, and Latin American political liberationists bawled out."
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There is reason to honor and respect Pope John Paul II, but a clear understanding of all his principles and their consequences is necessary to view the whole of his legacy. There are also sufferers to his legacy.

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Quote from [url=http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/pope/stories/pope.obituary/index.html]this<a> site:

While his outspoken views on human rights gained him many admirers, his preaching in such areas as sexual mores, science and the role of women in the church alienated many young, female and liberal Catholics.

Giovanni Ferro agrees: "He was what you might call a revolutionary conservative. In some areas, such as the preparedness to enter into dialogue with other religions, he was very forward-minded.

"In other areas, however, he was an extremely reactionary, traditionalist pope. He maintained all sorts of opposing currents in the church, with the result that his successor will probably be faced with a great crisis of direction."

In the end it is perhaps too early to provide any definitive judgment on one of the longest and most widely discussed reigns in papal history. Pope John Paul II was the third longest serving pontiff in history, behind St. Peter's 32 years and Pope Pius IX's 31 years, seven months.

His humanity, love of children and ceaseless efforts to bring the Catholic message to as wide an audience as possible marked him as one of the dominant and most respected figures of the 20th century and early 21st century.

At the same time, he has left a legacy of division and uncertainty within the church that could take his successor many years to resolve.

"One thing is for certain," says Luxmore. "He is going to be a terrifically hard act to follow."

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"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me