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Message 91016 - Posted: 25 Mar 2005, 21:42:08 UTC

No graghics
BOINC 4.25
graphics card Radon 7000
Driver 6.14.10.6517 ATI Technologies Inc
CPU. Pentium 4 2Ghz
OS Windows XP SP2

went back and used version 4.19 works better.
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Message 91020 - Posted: 25 Mar 2005, 21:56:43 UTC
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Running all projects with their latest apps under Windows
Running CPDN Hadsm3_4.11 under Linux
No problem on CC4.19 or CC4.25 under Win, and CC4.27 under Nux.

Graphic card : Ati Radeon 9000 Family
Driver date : 20/06/2002
Driver version : 6.13.10.6102

P4 2Ghz 256Mb, Dual-boot: Win XP SP1 & Mandrake 10.0
P4E 3Ghz HT 512Mb, Dual-boot: Win XP SP1 & Suse 9.2

Note that a member of CPDN Alpha who couldn't see the CPDN viz downgraded to driver version 6118 (the closest available to 6102, year 2002) and he can see the CPDN Alpha viz now.
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Message 91029 - Posted: 25 Mar 2005, 22:44:55 UTC

Win2k SP4 up to date
P4 2.8 GHz
1 Gb mem
ATI SaPPHIRE 9600SE 128Mb Radeon Omega Drivers/v2.6.05a
Seti 4.09
Einstein 4.79
McAfee VirusScan Enterprise Version 8.0.0.912

no noticeable graphics probs
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Message 91043 - Posted: 25 Mar 2005, 23:38:37 UTC
Last modified: 25 Mar 2005, 23:41:24 UTC

The BOINC Manager 4.25 is configured to run after ten minutes of idle user activity and to use the minimalist graphics. BOINC is also configured to run as the screensaver. When BOINC runs, a message saying it is downloading graphics appears and then the screen goes blank.

The previous version of BOINC did not have this problem. It displayed the graphics while running as a screensaver.

BOINC Manager : 4.25

BOINC app : setiathome 4.09

SETI@home graphics : minimalist

OS : Windows XP SP 1

CPU : Single processor Pentium 4 2.20 GHz

RAM : 1 GB

Graphics card : ATI RADEON VE DDR

Chip Type : ATI RV100(QY)

DAC Type : Internal DAC (350Mhz)

Memory Size : 32 MB

Adapter String : 1002-5159-02

Bios Information : BK7.60 VR000.000.007.006.002.001.000.000y

Location : PCI bus 1, device 0, function 0

Driver Date : 2001-Jun-06

Driver Vendor : ATI Technologies, Inc.

Driver Version : 5.1.2001.0

File Version : 5.13.01.3120 (ReleasedBinaries.010715-1631)

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Message 91152 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 8:27:50 UTC

BOINC 4.26
SETI@Home 4.09 - works fine
CPDN 4.10 - no graphics
Einstein@Home 4.79 - no graphics

Powermagic Radeon 8500LE 128MB, Windoze XP fully patched.

Any chance of getting some debugging version of grapics to see what BOINC actually doesn't like?
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Message 91165 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 10:09:16 UTC

Chip Type: ATI RADEON X800 XL (0x554D)
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag (6.14.10.6517)
CPU Type: AMD Athlon 64, 2200 MHz (11 x 200) 3500+
OS: WinXP Pro SP2 (5.1.2600) + latest patches
BOINC version: 4.25
SETI@home: 4.09

No problems detected.
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Message 91176 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 11:42:34 UTC

Graphics:
Chip Type: ATI RADEON 9600 Series AGP (0x4150)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(500MHz)
Mem Size: 128Mb
BIOS: BK-AMI VER008.011.001.002
Driver Date: 02.12.03
Driver Version: 6.14.10.6404
CATALYST Version: 03.10
2D Version: 6.14.10.6404

OS: WinXP Pro SP2 with latest updates
CPU: Intel P4-2.6 GHz (HT), 1024Mb RAM

BOINC ver: 4.25
Projects: S@H 4.09; Predictor@H 4.24; CPDN 4.10; E@H 4.79; BURP 4.12; LHC; Pirates.

All graphics for all projects having graphics works well. No problems.
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Message 91234 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 16:38:04 UTC

Graphics:
Chip Type: ATI RADEON 7000 Series AGP 4X (0x5159)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(350MHz)
Mem Size: 64Mb
BIOS: BK7.8.1 VR000.000.007.008.001.001.001.00-y
Driver Date: 10/26/2004
Driver Version: 6.14.10.6490
CATALYST Version: 04.11

OS: WinXP Home SP2 (05.01.2600.00)
CPU: Intel P4 2.8 GHz (HT off), 512Mb RAM

BOINC ver: 4.25
Projects: S@H 4.09 (scrsvr setup like Paul's "Classic emulation")

Problems: (1) major, (1) minor
Major: On WinXP Display Properties - Screen Saver menu, there is a check box for "On resume, display Welcome screen" or "On resume,password protect" (name depending on Fast User Switch enabled or disabled). When this is NOT checked, get graphics OK (see minor below). When this option IS checked (the way I use it) and screen saver "times in", get box saying "...screen saver loading..", then screen goes blank.
Minor: Sometimes the graph displays to the right of the box (whether as screen saver or from BOINC Manager "show graphics"). Continues to refill to the right until graphic is stopped then restarted. I think is happens mostly on first display of a new work unit, but I'm not sure about that.

Other than that,pretty impressd by graphics. Not going to try 4.19 because I like the "shared installation" (even thou it will only for "admin" logons, not "user" logons - can this be fixed ?).
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Message 91250 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 17:37:01 UTC

I have a different graphics problem. I randomly get an error box with a message like this:

The instruction at "0x69404532" referenced memory at "0x000044" The memory could not be "read".

or

The instruction at "0x69s9858e" referenced memory at "0x000000" The memory could not be "written".

I get this on my two systems that have ATI Radeon boards. These two errors happened n the system with
RADEON 9600 SERIES, AGP
Bios: 113-A03509-100
128MB
Driver version 6.14.10.6238 (has happened with many older driver versions)

Boinc: 4.25
Setiathome 4.09
climateprediction.net 4.10
ASUS P4C800-E motherboard
P4 3.00 Ghz, HT disabled
Windows XP Pro, SP2

I have had this problem through all version of BOINC, always with Seti and never with climateprediction. It did not occur with classic Seti.

It does not occur on my Dell Latitude C400 laptop or Dell GX270 office system, neither of which have ATI boards.

As for the inactivity blank screen, it seems that the screen is blank after the inital 10 minutes of inactivity until the screen save timeout elapses, and then the graphich screen appears.


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Message 91337 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 22:27:21 UTC

See my original post in this thread for system details, which was posted on 25 Mar 2005 23:38:37 UTC.

I wanted to add some information to the problem of SETI@home 4.09 and the BOINC Manager 4.25 on my Windows XP SP1 system not showing graphics when activated as a screensaver.

If the screensaver is configured to require the user's password to be entered when the screensaver is interrupted, then the SETI@home graphics are not displayed. If no password entry is required when the screensaver is interrupted, then the SETI@home graphics are displayed. BOINC 4.19 would show graphics when password protection was enabled in the BOINC screensaver.

I don't know if this is related, but my current SETI@home graphics preferences are "Minimalist". In the previous version of BOINC (version 4.19), when the screensaver was running, only a simple box with the BOINC logo and a message that BOINC was running would be displayed in random locations on the screen. With BOINC 4.25, the "Minimalist" graphics are a lot more intensive, which looks a lot more like the SETI@home Classic graphics (except with 3-D graphics).

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Message 91364 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 23:26:22 UTC

ATI radeon 9200SE 128DDR

Latest windows update drivers ( 22 March )

Einstein and climate show no graphics ( like all of you )
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Message 91366 - Posted: 26 Mar 2005, 23:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 91364.

> ATI radeon 9200SE 128DDR
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> Latest windows update drivers ( 22 March )
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> Einstein and climate show no graphics ( like all of you )
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sorry.. I forgot...

Windows XP SP2...

neither with BOINC 4.26 or 4.27... no graphics

climate 4.10
Einstein 4.79
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Message 91373 - Posted: 27 Mar 2005, 0:06:13 UTC

No Problems with any of: Seti, Einstein, Climate or LHC.

O/S & H/W:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/26/2005, 23:59:32
Machine name: XXXXXXXXXX
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Inspiron 9200
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A01
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 443MB used, 2016MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 AGP (0x4E50)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E50&SUBSYS_20021028&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (16 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6483 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/6/2004 22:13:58, 216576 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 10/6/2004 22:13:38, 800768 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D10-11CF-CB6A-0800A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E50
SubSys ID: 0x20021028
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Message 91465 - Posted: 27 Mar 2005, 10:00:31 UTC

if you could could you list your graphics card, driver version, os version, BOINC version, and project application version.

ATI x800 XT (Driver 5.3 newest)
Windows XP SP2
Boinc version 4.26
Apps all newest, the graphics don't work with einstein@home and cpdn
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Message 91712 - Posted: 28 Mar 2005, 1:28:03 UTC
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ATI AIW RADEON 7500 64MB
Driver Version 6.14.10.6517 02/22/2005
WinXP HE SP2
BOINC 4.25
Einstein 4.79
No graphics on Einstein since Windows Update updated the video driver last week. It was working prior to that.
Climate (4.10) and SETI (4.09) seem to work fine with the new driver.

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Message 91729 - Posted: 28 Mar 2005, 2:16:17 UTC

Graphics:
Chip Type: ATI RADEON 9600 Series AGP (0x4150)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Mem Size: 128Mb
BIOS: BK-ATI VER008.011.003.000
Driver Version: 6.14.10.6517
CATALYST Version: 05.3

OS: XP Home Edition, SP 2, (05.01.2600.00)
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 3200+, 512MB RAM

BOINC ver: 4.25
Projects: S@H 4.09; CPDN 4.10; E@H 4.79;

Seti graphics are OK but nothing for E@H or CPDN
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Message 91812 - Posted: 28 Mar 2005, 8:21:13 UTC

Chip Type: RADEON X600 Series (0x3E50)
DAC Type: Internal DAC (400MHz)
Memory Size: 256MB
Adapter String: RADEON X600 Series
BIOS Information: BK-ATI VER008.015.120.000

BOINC Manager v4.25

At WindowsXP Pro. SP2 startup, BOINC Manager briefly pops up maximized then is minimized to the tray. Can't figure out why it is doing that. Also, Projects periodically disappear. Under the "Projects" tab, there is nothing listed. When I try to reattach to a project nothing happens. Nothing shows up still under "Projects" tab.
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Message 91818 - Posted: 28 Mar 2005, 8:48:48 UTC - in response to Message 90555.
Last modified: 28 Mar 2005, 9:22:09 UTC

AMD XP 2800+
WinXP Pro
1024 Mb RAM
Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis
driver ver. 6.14.10.6517

No graphic on screen, just black.

Works properly if I launch a test from the screensaver configuration windows.
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Message 91838 - Posted: 28 Mar 2005, 11:38:03 UTC
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Nothing happens when I click on "Montrer les graphiques" ("Show graphics")

BOINC 4.25, Einstein@home 100%, XP Pro SP2, language French.

ATI Radeon 9700 Pro with memory 128 Mb. Driver Catalyst 5.3.

On a 2400+ AMD.

Before BOINC and Einstein@home this computer was running Seti Classic.
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Message 91842 - Posted: 28 Mar 2005, 12:04:14 UTC - in response to Message 91838.
Last modified: 28 Mar 2005, 12:06:08 UTC

SETI screensaver works but Einstein doesn't

System details:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/28/2005, 13:01:22

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.1GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM

DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9800 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9800 SE AGP (0x4148)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6476 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/25/2004 14:29:04, 209408 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 8/25/2004 14:28:46, 787456 bytes

Using Einstein 4.79

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