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Message 89734 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 12:33:05 UTC

I have two computers in two locations. An old 800Mhz and a 3.2 Ghz. They both download the same number of WOOZ but of course the old clunker takes four times longer to complete a WOO. Can I tranfer WOOZ from one to tuther by use of a portable HDD?
I ask this because during the recent three day outage I was stuck with a load of WOOZ on the clunker while the new computer ran dry!
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Message 89738 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 12:37:18 UTC

This is a negative. When seti sends a WU, it is verified against that machine. So the machine that downloads the file must crunch and return the data.



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Message 89749 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 13:03:21 UTC
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However you can resolve this by setting up two different profiles on the web page (Your Account, View/Edit General Prefs) and then setting each computer to one of the profiles (View Computers). For example. Set your general prefs to connect to server every 2 days and create a school or work profile that has that same variable set to only connect every .5 days. Then assign the big box to "---" or "home" venue and assign the geezer to the "work" or "school" profile. I had to do this with my 200/400 Mhz machines because they weren't getting their work done in time with settings the big boxes needed to keep ample work.

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Message 89765 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 13:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 89738.  

> This is a negative. When seti sends a WU, it is verified against that
> machine. So the machine that downloads the file must crunch and return the
> data.

This is true up to download and return part. Servers don't know anything about what hardware is crunching the data.

I did lend a CPND work-unit to another box and when it was half done, I trasfered it back. This back part includes a lot of hand-editing of .xml files which is quite error-prone.
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Message 89770 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 13:48:58 UTC - in response to Message 89749.  

Thanx Skip.
Job done.

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Message 89775 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 13:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 89770.  

> Thanx Skip.
> Job done.

No problem, good to hear.
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Message 89776 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 13:54:50 UTC

Should you really be teaching other people how to "beat the system"? Remember, this is about the science - you don't want any chance to corrupt that. And do you think the Climate people would be happy if they knew works units were being shifted around like that?
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Message 89778 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 14:00:33 UTC - in response to Message 89734.  
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> I have two computers in two locations. An old 800Mhz and a 3.2 Ghz. They both
> download the same number of WOOZ but of course the old clunker takes four
> times longer to complete a WOO. Can I tranfer WOOZ from one to tuther by use
> of a portable HDD?
> I ask this because during the recent three day outage I was stuck with a load
> of WOOZ on the clunker while the new computer ran dry!

This is the elegant and other alternative:

Put your preferences in such a way you can avoid your host to ran dry. Easy to do.
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Message 89786 - Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 14:12:32 UTC - in response to Message 89734.  

> I have two computers in two locations. An old 800Mhz and a 3.2 Ghz. They both
> download the same number of WOOZ but of course the old clunker takes four
> times longer to complete a WOO. Can I tranfer WOOZ from one to tuther by use
> of a portable HDD?
> I ask this because during the recent three day outage I was stuck with a load
> of WOOZ on the clunker while the new computer ran dry!
>

You CAN do it but it requires alot of work. You have to copy the entire boinc directory of your slow puter over to the fast one. Crunch the work and then move it back to the slow one to upload and report the WUs. You also must remove boinc from the new puter prior to moving the files to the fast one, and to reinstall boinc to the fast one afterwards. and you'd have to do several other things I'm forgetting. but it is possible, just probably not worth it.

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Message 90951 - Posted: 25 Mar 2005, 18:07:04 UTC - in response to Message 89776.  

> Should you really be teaching other people how to "beat the system"?
> Remember, this is about the science - you don't want any chance to corrupt
> that. And do you think the Climate people would be happy if they knew works
> units were being shifted around like that?


I am not trying to beat the system and I do care about the science. I fully intend to finish the WU and contribute to science. That's why I didn't write down too many details. And I don't intend to.
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Message 90977 - Posted: 25 Mar 2005, 19:35:42 UTC

As I said the the "cheating" thread, this moving the wus around doesn't gain you anything in terms of "getting more than you should".

It is probably more accurate to say that a host is defined as "the directory structure created by boinc installer".

This "directory structure" can only recieve one copy of any given WU, and return only one result for any given WU. You can copy this directory around if you like, but you don't gain more credits by doing so.

If you copy the "host directory" to a faster computer, then
A. while it is running there, that faster computer can't be running another host...eg you can't double up as some CPU has to eventually crunch all the work.

B. The original machine the host directory came from can't be crunching the WUs it downloaded...or if it did, it wouldn't get credit for them as the server would reject them (you see the faster computer would have already completed and turned them in).
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