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Message 6299 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 0:23:52 UTC

1) There has GOT to be a better way to check your status on the statistics page. What is it?

2) What exactly is "average credits"?
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Message 6312 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 1:05:22 UTC
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1) This URL: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/db_dump.php can be reached by going to the new S@H front page and selecting "Participate in SETI@Home" -> "Learn More" -> "Downloading statistics data". It describes the statistics data availability and format.

And this URL: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats.php can be reached by going to the new S@H front page and selecting "Statistics and Leaderboards" -> "Other statistics". It contains a link to the actual statistics files. Unfortunately, either the files are not currently available, or I just haven't understood the details and/or lack the XML knowledge to get the files.

None of that is a "better" way to check your statistics, but you could whip up a tool to pull your specific stats out of the mass of data and display them any way you want to. I would not be surprised if someone built a tool to do that very soon.

2) This URL: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/credit.php can be reached by going to the new S@H front page and selecting: "Participate in SETI@Home" -> "Learn More" -> "Computation Credit". It attempts to explain the "Recent Average Credit" statistic. I don't think the explanation matches the values I'm seeing. I'm seeing garbage/meaningless values for RAC, and I think the statistic isn't worth the effort for them to calculate it.
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Message 6442 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 10:12:16 UTC

average credit to me looks like average credit per day but it probably is not :s
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Message 6511 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 14:01:32 UTC - in response to Message 6312.  

> 1) This URL: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/db_dump.php can be reached by going
> to the new S@H front page and selecting "Participate in SETI@Home" ->
> "Learn More" -> "Downloading statistics data". It describes the statistics
> data availability and format.
>
> And this URL: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats.php can be reached by
> going to the new S@H front page and selecting "Statistics and Leaderboards"
> -> "Other statistics". It contains a link to the actual statistics files.
> Unfortunately, either the files are not currently available, or I just haven't
> understood the details and/or lack the XML knowledge to get the files.
>
> None of that is a "better" way to check your statistics, but you could whip up
> a tool to pull your specific stats out of the mass of data and display them
> any way you want to. I would not be surprised if someone built a tool to do
> that very soon.
>
> 2) This URL: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/credit.php can be reached by going to
> the new S@H front page and selecting: "Participate in SETI@Home" -> "Learn
> More" -> "Computation Credit". It attempts to explain the "Recent Average
> Credit" statistic. I don't think the explanation matches the values I'm
> seeing. I'm seeing garbage/meaningless values for RAC, and I think the
> statistic isn't worth the effort for them to calculate it.
>
>
1) You're right. Trying to find ones own stats is difficult in that only 20 appear on any given screen, then one has to scroll down, click on "next 20", and do it all over again, until you get to your stats. Gets a little ridiculous given the total participants are over 50,000 already.

2) I agree that looking at your references that it looks like a daily average of some hard-to-understand, written by a computer geek (no offense intended), algorithum that only makes sense to another of the same.
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Message 6601 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 18:57:39 UTC - in response to Message 6511.  

> 1) You're right. Trying to find ones own stats is difficult in that only 20
> appear on any given screen, then one has to scroll down, click on "next 20",
> and do it all over again, until you get to your stats. Gets a little
> ridiculous given the total participants are over 50,000 already.

And the pages that let you list your stats 20 / page have been disabled for about a week already, so you can't even get your stats that way. :(
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Message 6771 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 3:26:36 UTC - in response to Message 6442.  

> average credit to me looks like average credit per day but it probably is not
> :s
It is approximately that. It is an exponentially reducing average. Credit that you were granted a week ago counts 1/2 of that that you were granted today.

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Message 6818 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 6:06:42 UTC - in response to Message 6771.  
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> It is approximately that. It is an exponentially reducing average. Credit
> that you were granted a week ago counts 1/2 of that that you were granted
> today.

But it doesn't come anywhere NEAR a correct value under that formula.
The credit I was granted during the first week was over 750, but the RAC was never over 70. During my SECOND week I've been granted another 1700+, but my RAC was never over 180. Since then (partial week), I've been granted another
3000, but my RAC has NEVER exceeded 370.

If it were as they say, then during that first week my RAC would have been EXACTLY the same as my granted credit; nothing was more than a week old. And during the second week, my RAC would have been equal to all that I was granted to that point in that second week plus half of the "week-old" value. It's NOWHERE near that. And the third week is even farther off base.

It does appear to do some "reducing average" math; the value gets smaller if I don't REPORT any units for 10 hours or so. But it really looks like it's based on just about one-eleventh of the current week's value, plus some even tinier fraction of the week before that.

Is it supposed to be average credit PER WEEK? Nowhere near correct, even with the "reducing" calculations. Or PER DAY? Even farther off. Or PER UNIT? Not likely (I get 25-50 credits/unit depending on which system reports it; my RAC is currently 347+.) Or what?

So, "Average Credits Per what time period"?
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