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Message 83620 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 18:41:01 UTC

Can anyone upload WU-s?
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Message 83623 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 18:44:11 UTC - in response to Message 83620.  

> Can anyone upload WU-s?

Undoubtably, someone can.

Out of the thousands who are currently hammering the servers, a few will get through.

Because they got through, they don't need to upload, so the number of people hammering the servers will go down.

That makes it easier for others to get through, so the number hammering the servers will go down -- until life gets much easier and everyone is through uploading.
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Message 83627 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 18:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 83623.  


> Out of the thousands who are currently hammering the servers,

Thousands of clients perhaps, but most clients will be holding an average cache of several dozen WUs. Assuming the project is left up for an extended period (not likely), the traffic issue could persist for several days to a week.

Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

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Message 83628 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 18:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 83623.  

> > Can anyone upload WU-s?
>
> Undoubtably, someone can.
>
> Out of the thousands who are currently hammering the servers, a few will get
> through.
>
> Because they got through, they don't need to upload, so the number of people
> hammering the servers will go down.
>
> That makes it easier for others to get through, so the number hammering the
> servers will go down -- until life gets much easier and everyone is through
> uploading.
>

not quickly. i've got 20 WU's in my outbox, some scheduled for retry in over three hours. even when forcing connection, my client can only even attempt two at a time. only a small % of the overall finished wu's are trying to get in at once. if those have trouble, then it could be 6 hours or more before we even begin to see any improvement in uploads.
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Message 83648 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 20:39:38 UTC - in response to Message 83627.  

> Thousands of clients perhaps, but most clients will be holding an average
> cache of several dozen WUs. Assuming the project is left up for an extended
> period (not likely), the traffic issue could persist for several days to a
> week.

Well, we could talk about ways BOINC could be modified to reduce the problem, and we could talk about how it looks like the UPS issue is getting resolved so the project can stay up without risk, or we can say "not likely" and leave it at that.
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Message 83651 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 20:50:36 UTC - in response to Message 83648.  


> Well, we could talk about ways BOINC could be modified to reduce the problem,
> and we could talk about how it looks like the UPS issue is getting resolved so
> the project can stay up without risk, or we can say "not likely" and leave it
> at that.
>
Maybe they could add some time to the deadlines when there's significicent pproject outages. It just doesn't make sense to me for a project, volunteer or not, to put out deadlines and then due to hardware/facility or software problems, not provide some sort of way to fix it. They have the downloaded dates and the report dates, to it shouldn't be hard to figure out how allow these WU's to be reported and used for science.
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Message 83653 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 20:53:21 UTC - in response to Message 83651.  

> Maybe they could add some time to the deadlines when there's significicent
> pproject outages. It just doesn't make sense to me for a project, volunteer or
> not, to put out deadlines and then due to hardware/facility or software
> problems, not provide some sort of way to fix it. They have the downloaded
> dates and the report dates, to it shouldn't be hard to figure out how allow
> these WU's to be reported and used for science.

A quick'n'dirty workaround should be to shut down the validator for a couple of days. Everybody get their WUs back in time for validation, and nothing can be purged. Just a few more days without fresh credits, but so what?
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Message 83697 - Posted: 7 Mar 2005, 23:05:38 UTC - in response to Message 83653.  

Actually, (according to the status page) the data services were held until after they tested the UPS shutdown, which apparently was fairly successful. Now they are building up some WUs so that when they turn on the 'data services', they'll have something to hand out to the thousands of 'starved systems' begging for WUs.

Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

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