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eL_nino Send message Joined: 11 Mar 04 Posts: 79 Credit: 999,964 RAC: 0 |
Can anyone upload WU-s? |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
> Can anyone upload WU-s? Undoubtably, someone can. Out of the thousands who are currently hammering the servers, a few will get through. Because they got through, they don't need to upload, so the number of people hammering the servers will go down. That makes it easier for others to get through, so the number hammering the servers will go down -- until life gets much easier and everyone is through uploading. |
John Cropper Send message Joined: 3 May 00 Posts: 444 Credit: 416,933 RAC: 0 |
> Out of the thousands who are currently hammering the servers, Thousands of clients perhaps, but most clients will be holding an average cache of several dozen WUs. Assuming the project is left up for an extended period (not likely), the traffic issue could persist for several days to a week. Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway? Fox Sunday (US) at 9PM ET/PT |
spacemeat Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 239 Credit: 8,425,288 RAC: 0 |
> > Can anyone upload WU-s? > > Undoubtably, someone can. > > Out of the thousands who are currently hammering the servers, a few will get > through. > > Because they got through, they don't need to upload, so the number of people > hammering the servers will go down. > > That makes it easier for others to get through, so the number hammering the > servers will go down -- until life gets much easier and everyone is through > uploading. > not quickly. i've got 20 WU's in my outbox, some scheduled for retry in over three hours. even when forcing connection, my client can only even attempt two at a time. only a small % of the overall finished wu's are trying to get in at once. if those have trouble, then it could be 6 hours or more before we even begin to see any improvement in uploads. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
> Thousands of clients perhaps, but most clients will be holding an average > cache of several dozen WUs. Assuming the project is left up for an extended > period (not likely), the traffic issue could persist for several days to a > week. Well, we could talk about ways BOINC could be modified to reduce the problem, and we could talk about how it looks like the UPS issue is getting resolved so the project can stay up without risk, or we can say "not likely" and leave it at that. |
JAF Send message Joined: 9 Aug 00 Posts: 289 Credit: 168,721 RAC: 0 |
> Well, we could talk about ways BOINC could be modified to reduce the problem, > and we could talk about how it looks like the UPS issue is getting resolved so > the project can stay up without risk, or we can say "not likely" and leave it > at that. > Maybe they could add some time to the deadlines when there's significicent pproject outages. It just doesn't make sense to me for a project, volunteer or not, to put out deadlines and then due to hardware/facility or software problems, not provide some sort of way to fix it. They have the downloaded dates and the report dates, to it shouldn't be hard to figure out how allow these WU's to be reported and used for science. <img src='http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-912.jpg'> |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
> Maybe they could add some time to the deadlines when there's significicent > pproject outages. It just doesn't make sense to me for a project, volunteer or > not, to put out deadlines and then due to hardware/facility or software > problems, not provide some sort of way to fix it. They have the downloaded > dates and the report dates, to it shouldn't be hard to figure out how allow > these WU's to be reported and used for science. A quick'n'dirty workaround should be to shut down the validator for a couple of days. Everybody get their WUs back in time for validation, and nothing can be purged. Just a few more days without fresh credits, but so what? Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki |
John Cropper Send message Joined: 3 May 00 Posts: 444 Credit: 416,933 RAC: 0 |
Actually, (according to the status page) the data services were held until after they tested the UPS shutdown, which apparently was fairly successful. Now they are building up some WUs so that when they turn on the 'data services', they'll have something to hand out to the thousands of 'starved systems' begging for WUs. Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway? Fox Sunday (US) at 9PM ET/PT |
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