why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat? SETI@home did. i haven't seen any easy way to just get how many wu's i've done. i'd much rather see that than credits.
any info?

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Hi

This was discused often enough.
It wouldn´t released.

greetz Mike

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> why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat? SETI@home
> did. i haven't seen any easy way to just get how many wu's i've done. i'd
> much rather see that than credits.

On my machine right now, I have a big stack of LHC work units that take 50 minutes each. I have some SETI work units that take four hours. I have Einstein work units that take six. I don't crunch CPDN, but those take weeks.

By granting credits in cobblestones, all projects give comparable credits.

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> > why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat?
> SETI@home
> > did. i haven't seen any easy way to just get how many wu's i've done.
> i'd
> > much rather see that than credits.
>
> On my machine right now, I have a big stack of LHC work units that take 50
> minutes each. I have some SETI work units that take four hours. I have
> Einstein work units that take six. I don't crunch CPDN, but those take
> weeks.
>
> By granting credits in cobblestones, all projects give comparable credits.
>

What goals do you have in running the projects? Why are they goals of the project? CPDN does trickles which might take a day. Why can't we have a stat we can choose to record? Maybe the reason some people cheated because everyone liked a little competition with stats. For projects that really really can't have wu definition, would it hard to put N/A in wu column?

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> > > why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat?
> > SETI@home
> > > did. i haven't seen any easy way to just get how many wu's i've
> done.
> > i'd
> > > much rather see that than credits.
> >
> > On my machine right now, I have a big stack of LHC work units that take
> 50
> > minutes each. I have some SETI work units that take four hours. I have
> > Einstein work units that take six. I don't crunch CPDN, but those take
> > weeks.
> >
> > By granting credits in cobblestones, all projects give comparable
> credits.
> >
>
> What goals do you have in running the projects? Why are they goals of the
> project? CPDN does trickles which might take a day. Why can't we have a stat
> we can choose to record? Maybe the reason some people cheated because
> everyone liked a little competition with stats. For projects that really
> really can't have wu definition, would it hard to put N/A in wu column?
>

Recently I have had credit given in the range of 17 to 50 credits. The average is not 32.5 credits. Credits claimed is even screwier. They range into the 90's. So I would like the information about how many work units I have returned.

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> > > > why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat?
>
>
> Recently I have had credit given in the range of 17 to 50 credits. The
> average is not 32.5 credits. Credits claimed is even screwier. They range
> into the 90's. So I would like the information about how many work units I
> have returned.
>
Dr. Anderson and Rom Walton are the people you have to talk to if you just cannot accept that at present there are no plans to do what you want done.
Rom Walton is a moderator of this forum and has email, Dr. Anderson has an email address.

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> What goals do you have in running the projects? Why are they goals of the
> project? CPDN does trickles which might take a day. Why can't we have a stat
> we can choose to record? Maybe the reason some people cheated because
> everyone liked a little competition with stats. For projects that really
> really can't have wu definition, would it hard to put N/A in wu column?

CPDN trickles are in cobblestones....

Competition is good. If people focus on Work Units only, then projects with short work units will be strongly favored.

I like being able to see how much I'm contributing to each project, in a single unit of measure that is worth about the same on LHC and CPDN.

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> Competition is good. If people focus on Work Units only, then projects with
> short work units will be strongly favored.
>
> I like being able to see how much I'm contributing to each project, in a
> single unit of measure that is worth about the same on LHC and CPDN.

Absolutely right, Ned. I couldn't agree with you more. </IMG>

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> why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat? SETI@home
> did. i haven't seen any easy way to just get how many wu's i've done. i'd
> much rather see that than credits.
> any info?
>

I think they are just too scared to put a real number on their clean white board. All they want to give you is a made up number. Seems they can't tell the difference between different project wu's, even though wu's will be specified something like lhc wu,or einstein wu,or setiathome wu.

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> I think they are just too scared to put a real number on their clean white
> board. All they want to give you is a made up number. Seems they can't tell
> the difference between different project wu's, even though wu's will be
> specified something like lhc wu,or einstein wu,or setiathome wu.
>
Just to be clear here...Berkeley did not come up with the 35.2 number, some user did. Berkeley probably does not now at this stage what an average unit is worth in credits. Probably don't care either. They are still trying to get Windows, Mac and Linux machines to ask for approximately the SAME number when they crunch the SAME unit! What with breaker problems, database issues, new hardware and a ton of other things going on, time is very precious. As long as the system is running, that is a good thing right now!
Don't forget they are trying to get ready for the Classic shutdown too!

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> > why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat?
> SETI@home
> > did. i haven't seen any easy way to just get how many wu's i've done.
> i'd
> > much rather see that than credits.
> > any info?
> >
>
> I think they are just too scared to put a real number on their clean white
> board. All they want to give you is a made up number. Seems they can't tell
> the difference between different project wu's, even though wu's will be
> specified something like lhc wu,or einstein wu,or setiathome wu.

oh, this would definately f*ck up boincstats - which reminds me, you could try to visit www.boincstats.com - there you can "compete" on overall boinc credits. As in all credit for all projects you participate in..

While copplestones might not be a perfect unit for measue and comparison, it is by far better and more comparable than pure wu count.

But don't worry - some day someone will propably make a thirdparty tool that monitors your boinc client and counts how many wu's you do.

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> But don't worry - some day someone will propably make a thirdparty tool that
> monitors your boinc client and counts how many wu's you do.
>
Try BoincLogx :-)

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> > But don't worry - some day someone will propably make a thirdparty tool
> that
> > monitors your boinc client and counts how many wu's you do.
> >
> Try BoincLogx :-)

;-)

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> > > why does BOINC not show a total # of work units processed stat?
> > SETI@home
> > > did. i haven't seen any easy way to just get how many wu's i've
> done.
> > i'd
> > > much rather see that than credits.
> > > any info?
> > >
> >
> > I think they are just too scared to put a real number on their clean
> white
> > board. All they want to give you is a made up number. Seems they can't
> tell
> > the difference between different project wu's, even though wu's will be
> > specified something like lhc wu,or einstein wu,or setiathome wu.
>
> oh, this would definately f*ck up boincstats - which reminds me, you could try
> to visit www.boincstats.com - there you can "compete" on overall boinc
> credits. As in all credit for all projects you participate in..
>
> While copplestones might not be a perfect unit for measue and comparison, it
> is by far better and more comparable than pure wu count.
>
> But don't worry - some day someone will propably make a thirdparty tool that
> monitors your boinc client and counts how many wu's you do.
>
>

I never said you couldn't compare apples and oranges through your boinc stats. I want a real number representation of what I did and in what I did it in.

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ksnash,

If you have a problem with the way stats are done, please email Rom Walton and/or Dr. Anderson. The majority of the people that post here on this subject do not agree with you, and would be powerless to do anything about it if they did. Your continuing to make this request here will just get you argued with and/or flamed.

Thank you.

Actually, it woiuld be better to talk to the people the run the stat sites. It is not likely that Work Unit counts will be added to any of the BOINC Projects unless a project decided to add that feature ...

I tried to find it, but could not ... but Dr. Anderson recently said that he would not even have done as much with statistcs as we have currently.

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> Actually, it woiuld be better to talk to the people the run the stat sites.
> It is not likely that Work Unit counts will be added to any of the BOINC
> Projects unless a project decided to add that feature ...
>
> I tried to find it, but could not ... but Dr. Anderson recently said that he
> would not even have done as much with statistcs as we have currently.
>

Yes, it would be the 3rd-party stats-sites that would display a work unit count, it is were available. However, the count must first be maintained by the BOINC server software on a per-user basis, then it must be exported along with the rest of the user's record in the XML data dumps. So, once again, you are back to asking Dr. Anderson to include it (as far as Seti@Home on the BOINC platform is concerned).

And yes, I too saw where Dr. Anderson said that the 'stats' were the responsibility of the 3rd party sites. The stats published on the actual seti/boinc web site are rudimentary at best. I believe that Dr. Anderson wishes to keep statistics traffic off of the project web-sites as much as is possible.



The best place to keep track of this information (work unit count) is client-side, with a 3rd-party app written for the purpose.

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> Yes, it would be the 3rd-party stats-sites that would display a work unit
> count, it is were available. However, the count must first be maintained by
> the BOINC server software on a per-user basis, then it must be exported along
> with the rest of the user's record in the XML data dumps. So, once again, you
> are back to asking Dr. Anderson to include it (as far as Seti@Home on the
> BOINC platform is concerned).

Hmmm, I thought it was part of the stats output, then again, what do I know ...

> And yes, I too saw where Dr. Anderson said that the 'stats' were the
> responsibility of the 3rd party sites. The stats published on the actual
> seti/boinc web site are rudimentary at best. I believe that Dr. Anderson
> wishes to keep statistics traffic off of the project web-sites as much as is
> possible.

Great, though I seem to have lost my mind, that was not part of it ...

> The best place to keep track of this information (work unit count) is
> client-side, with a 3rd-party app written for the purpose.

Actually I have been using BOINC View to do that ... I got a question on the FAQ about the processing time, so, 5 hours later I have 7,625 records in a MySQL table and I can answer that question ....

Now you have to go look at the FAQ to find out what are the processing times and which project is "best" ... :)

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As a matter of fact, looking at the database schema for BOINC, it would appear that it doesn't even have a database field for the number of work units. The ONLY place I see anything about the number of work units in the database is in the hosts table where it keeps track of how many work units the host has downloaded during the current day and this is just to enforce the host work unit quota and is reset to 0 at midnight every day. Other than that, it would seem that BOINC has no concept of "work units" on the user/team level. Only cobblestones. So this isn't just a matter of adding a field to the XML file... it would require several code changes all over the system. And all that for a worthless statistic.

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> file... it would require several code changes all over the system. And all
> that for a worthless statistic.

We could just divide the Cobblestone number by 35.23 (or whatever the value was ...).

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