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Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
Something is not entirely on the up and up at the White House press briefings.... Here is a little snippet from a US Congresswoman's press release. According to several credible reports, "Mr. Gannon" has been repeatedly credentialed as a member of the White House press corps by your office and has been regularly called upon in White House press briefings by your Press Secretary Scott McClellan, despite the fact evidence shows that "Mr. Gannon" is a Republican political operative, uses a false name, has phony or questionable journalistic credentials, is known for plagiarizing much of the "news" he reports, and according to several web reports, may have ties to the promotion of the prostitution of military personnel [...] And just this morning we have learned that "Mr. Gannon" has resigned his post at the, so called, Talon News amid growing concerns over his controversial background and falsified qualifications. In fact, it appears that "Mr. Gannon's" presence in the White House press corps was merely as a tool of propaganda for your Administration. http://www.louise.house.gov/HoR/Louise/News/Press+Releases+By+Date/2005+Press+Releases/WH+Briefing+Room+Scandal.htm Seems 'Mr Gannon' is really Mr Guckert. Google this story for all the sordid details... it's really quite incredible. Wingnuttery at it's zenith.. Talon 'news', the questionable news organization is said to be busily scrubbing it's site. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/02/02/white_house_friendly_reporter_under_scrutiny?pg=full |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
Interest in Congresswoman Slaughter's news release is jamming the server. Here's another link: http://editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000796790 |
Anonymous Send message Joined: 15 Jan 02 Posts: 307 Credit: 24,137 RAC: 0 |
So what's your point? Is it another journalist caught lying or a White House conspiracy? I have my opinion as to what you are probably thinking, I'd just like for you to state it B4 I comment. . <a href="http://www.brainsmashr.com"><img src="http://www.brainsmashr.com/signature.gif"><img src="http://brainsmashr.com/boinc/counter_big.php?id=305369&project=seti&ctx=white&cva=red&cbo=white&cbg=black&linethickness=2"></a> |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
> So what's your point? > > Is it another journalist caught lying or a White House conspiracy? > > I have my opinion as to what you are probably thinking, I'd just like for you > to state it B4 I comment. > > . It's Funny I never head of any of these people before this topic, Including the Congresswoman. I must have missed it in the news... I am sure that all polictical sides have there moles and rats. |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
mush brain can't seem to respond to an issue... He wants instead to play mental badminton with his ego.... > So what's your point? Read the news, mushbrain... If you can't figure out how to assimilate that into a comment on the news, sit quietly until you can form a coherent thought..... |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
> mush brain can't seem to respond to an issue... > > He wants instead to play mental badminton with his ego.... > > So what's your point? > Read the news, mushbrain... > > If you can't figure out how to assimilate that into a comment on the news, sit > quietly until you can form a coherent thought..... > Right on, Paul. Make him work for it. Hey, BTW, I believe you should have an avatar made of this. I believe it to be, you. Timmy could be of assistance if you need it. L8R.... --- My Time: Wednesday, 09 February 2005 - 07:55 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
>I must have missed it in the news... this guy was the target of one of those subpoenas in the Valerie Plame case... seems he had a heretofor 'secret' memo..... since it's apparent he is a 'plant', ....who provided that document to him? He's been in the news for quite a while. New York Times, WaPo, Reuters..... he's not new.... The revelations that he's not the guy with his name on his credentials is new... ....this on the heels of the many ongoing 'Armstrong Williams payola type revelations' and the taxpayer sponsered fake newsreels produced by various government departments which are lifting the lid on the mighty wurlitzer of the 'liberal controlled' media?.... surely we have all heard that some bit of that news? Why would the actions of any political side have any impact on this? Does this have to be excused as partisan action or is this a case which should be settled regardless of partisanship? Doesn't the same rule of law apply to all of us equally? |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
>>you should have an avatar made of this Wouldn't be right, ....for one, .....not my pic.... and besides that's an obviously 'photoshopped' snap, Clam Gulch is an eskimo myth. (you got something against the Northern lights?) |
Anonymous Send message Joined: 15 Jan 02 Posts: 307 Credit: 24,137 RAC: 0 |
So my initial assumption was correct? Some guys lies about his credentials and you smell a conspiracy. Otherwise, it would be just another daily event on planet Earth.....someone told a lie. You see, Einstein, I read the articles, you just didn't (and still have not) bother to state your own opinion, which is all I asked for. BTW, we're all capable of cut and paste and reading, it's why I asked for your opinion. . <a href="http://www.brainsmashr.com"><img src="http://www.brainsmashr.com/signature.gif"><img src="http://brainsmashr.com/boinc/counter_big.php?id=305369&project=seti&ctx=white&cva=red&cbo=white&cbg=black&linethickness=2"></a> |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
You suppose this guy fooled the Secret Service.....? You think they let just anyone take a pass on getting White House press credentials over a period of months and months? You suppose they didn't know his real name...? Nobody in the Secret Service would have ran any simple background checks? You're a gullible sort, aren't you mushbrain? Been drinking the Koolaid again? This story that you claim to have sniffed out in your initial assumption is just breaking.... a conspiracy has connotations of secrecy and cover-up.... this is out in the open now. There's more to come.... as they say in the press, this story has legs. CNN and the Washington Post both are covering the unfolding events this morning.... Stay tuned, mushbrain (to something other than Faux News or Drudge), I think there's to be a little more revealed.... I'll let you know my opinion when the facts are revealed, I'm not ready to pass this off as readily as you appear to want to. Check out the Freeper sites, mushbrain..... they're all a'twitter... maybe you can get some new 'talking points', the one's you dream up on your own are weak. |
5 and a half of 13 Send message Joined: 21 Jan 02 Posts: 240 Credit: 21,261 RAC: 0 |
Nah brainmusher is'nt gullible - he's just stupid. He believes anything a politicain says is gospel truth. He also believes in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus. In Britain we have our own Mr Guckert. He is called Alaister Campbell. Unfortunately he is not so easily gotten rid of :( PS: Its a tragedy that the most conservative, pro-incumbent government news establishments in North America and Britain, Faux News, Sly News and The Slimes are owned by the same Australian a******e, R****t M*****h :( [corrected spelling] [censored a litigation-prone media baron's name] Need help? Check out the excellent Unofficial BOINC-Wiki! 'We are the BOINC. Prepare to be assimilated.' |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
Two US House members, Conyers from Michigan and Slaughter from New York, wrote to the independant prosecutor in the Wilson/Plame case seeking information on how JD Guckert, aka Jeff Gannon, obtained classified documents that revealed the identity of a CIA agent. http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/11/politics/11gannon.html&OP=47500bf/tQ3CgztaliyWll(qtqYYFtYqtJJt1l_V(ViytJJ0HQ25Q25lQ25wx(Z_ US Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey has written a letter requesting the White House release all documentation related to the question of which name Mr. Guckert/Gannon used when applying for credentials, and which name was on the official White House press credentials he received. He notes in his letter that Gannon/Guckert was denied Congressional press credentials because he didn't work for an accredited, (read actual), news organisation. http://lautenberg.senate.gov/~lautenberg/press/2003/01/2005210903.html "Talon News" was launched by Bobby Eberle and had existed a mere few days before "Gannon" was awarded White House press credentials. A few short months later, he was receiving classified CIA documents. Gannon/Guckert has no journalistic background. 'Talon News' stories are redirected to GOPUSA.com, also owned by Bobby Eberle. So the purported 'unbiased' news of Talon News org, is actually posted on a site dedicated to spreading the conservative message, (read lies), throughout the land. Journalism....? White House press credentials...? Top secret CIA documents....? The IP addresses for TalonNews.com and GOPUSA.com differed by only one digit. The IP address for TalonNews was 65.17.231.174. The IP address for GOPUSA was 65.17.231.173. The two addresses existed in the same CIDR block and the servers were quite possibly located on the same computer system. You couldn't make up a stranger plotline in fiction...... |
Anonymous Send message Joined: 15 Jan 02 Posts: 307 Credit: 24,137 RAC: 0 |
> You suppose this guy fooled the Secret Service.....? You think they let just > anyone take a pass on getting White House press credentials over a period of > months and months? That's funny, you guys ridicule the Bush Administration for everything from his speech to giving out information before it's been verified, but out of this side of your mouth, he's capable of a conspiracy that's lasted for months? years? The problem with your type is that Bush is a "moron" until you find something to argue, then he's a "criminal mistermind", until the true story comes out, then he's a "moron" again. > You suppose they didn't know his real name...? Nobody in the Secret Service > would have ran any simple background checks? You're assuming they did. I would assume the local media get's in with a simple frisking. How about some faked documents to back up your conspiracy theory? What you don't have any? Imagine that. > You're a gullible sort, aren't you mushbrain? Been drinking the Koolaid > again? I think you've confused gullible with not caring. It's quite common for journalists to lie, Dan Rather, one of the most creditable journalists in our nation's history, resigned over it. Are you somehow trying to imply that some jerk-off from the ??Talon?? is above all of that? O wait, we already know HE lied, don't we, and we also already know the Secret Service is made up of human beings, like you and I, who are quite capable of making mistakes. Remember Bush giving out information on WMD before it had been verified? Some liberal s**t bags think he lied so we could start a war (like we need a reason), the rest of us realize he caved under pressure, and gave out information before it had been verified. What's the moral of the story? People make mistakes that others construe as conspiracy. You thinking it doesn't make it true. > This story that you claim to have sniffed out in your initial assumption is > just breaking.... a conspiracy has connotations of secrecy and cover-up.... > this is out in the open now. Out in the open "now" being the key phrase. You're STILL implying it's a conspiracy committed by Bush or his administration, are you not? You know, you don't have to be a liberal piece of crap all the time. It's ok to have an opinion and state it, even if you find out it's wrong later. We're all human and capable of making mistakes. You see, I could call you a bunch of names here, but I think coward sums it up best. > Check out the Freeper sites, mushbrain..... they're all a'twitter... maybe > you can get some new 'talking points', the one's you dream up on your own are > weak. Maybe that's your problem. You should try reading news from sources OTHER than tabloid types who don't need hype to sell their news because they have a reputation that does not stench of bias. <a href="http://www.brainsmashr.com"><img src="http://www.brainsmashr.com/signature.gif"><img src="http://brainsmashr.com/boinc/counter_big.php?id=305369&project=seti&ctx=white&cva=red&cbo=white&cbg=black&linethickness=2"></a> |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
No member of the media gets in with a simple frisking. White House Briefing room press credentials are very hard to come by... the people who know about those things have already said it's unbelievable that he would not have been thoroughly vetted first. You ass ume wrong again. Today the story is all over CNN, the NY Times, the Washington Post, NPR etc, etc etc Is that the tabloid press you're referring to? As to you're not caring, you sure spend a lot of energy trying to make excuses for this. Congressional members are demanding investigations, requesting documentation and calling for a review. But according to you, the whole thing is just a figment of my tinhat conspiracy tendency. You're not reading the material again, are you? This story is a little deep for you to understand, mushbrain. Complexities don't seem to be your strong suit. Go pound nails. |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
The Gannon/Guckert story apparently is[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/18/opinion/lynch/main675050.shtml ]not fading away[/url] as quietly as some would hope. |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
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Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
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Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
Admitting Prostitutes To White House Part Of New Outreach Program, Officials Say The Bush Administration today said that its credentialing of a Republican prostitute to the White House press pool was part of a job training and escort outreach initiative. "It's part of a program of good works," said Press Secretary Scott McClellan. The White House was trying to explain why Jim Guckart was given daily access to the White House for the last two years. Guckart, who went by the name of Jeff Gannon in the Briefing Room, has been credentialed as a member of the press corps, and received a White House press pass even before he had ever become a journalist, Salon now reports. Escort Asked to Visit White House At No Charge, Says McClellan The White House denied that it had paid Guckart to come to the White House press corps to spend time with with Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan and President Bush. Although Guckert's x-rated web sites offer Guckart's male escort services for $200 an hour, or $1500 a weekend, the White House said it did not pay those rates. "He didn't charge us anything for the weekdays," said Scott McClellan, "and he was never here on weekends." White House officials denied that they had issued credentials to Guckart because he was a Republican prostitute. "We credential escorts regardless of their party affiliation," Scott McClellan said. When pressed, McClellan admitted that, so far as he knew, none of the rest of the the White House press corps were "professionals." McClellan said that the White House was not concerned about any security risks that might be associated with the admission of professional escorts to the White House. "When you take the necessary precautions, it's almost entirely safe," he said. At least one prominent Democrat was not pleased with the so-called program. "I have a suggestion," said Congressman John Conyers. "Abstinence." |
*Ugly American* Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 55 Credit: 314,164 RAC: 0 |
You tell'em Paul. <img src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/seti2/stats.php?userID=1790&trans=off">_<img src="http://seti.mundayweb.com/stats.php?userID=524&trans=off">_<img src="http://www.flagofearth.com/Decal2.jpg" HEIGHT="70"> <BR><B><I>Regards, UA |
Paul Zimmerman Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 1440 Credit: 11 RAC: 0 |
who was it who said, ""It's not a lie if you believe it."" . . wasn't it just a tad odd that Bush chided Putin for not having a free press when it's been revealed that the Bush administration has been creating news and paying 'correspondants' to push the administrations line? Don't think I'm the only person to see the juxtaposition therein, eh? (not to mention the gay escort service/'reporter' in the White House Christmas party) Spread those seeds of democracy..... |
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